The Godfather Trilogy (Francis Ford Coppola, 1972-1990)

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Re: The Godfather Films (Francis Ford Coppola, 1972/1974/199

#77 Post by Roger Ryan » Tue Jan 05, 2016 4:46 pm

hearthesilence wrote:Wikipedia's list of material included in this "epic" edit which is surprisingly a lot.
Although quite a bit of the extra footage is notated as only appearing in the 7+ hour "Saga" edition. The version HBO is showing is the trimmed-down 6.4 hour "Epic" edit.

According to that wiki article, the "Saga" edition was broadcast in HD on AMC three years ago. That version must have come from the restoration, but would have been censored. The HD "Epic" version debuting (?) on HBO would not be censored.
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Re: The Godfather Films (Francis Ford Coppola, 1972/1974/199

#78 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Tue Jan 05, 2016 8:50 pm

I'd guess that it's not trimmed either, that the 7-hour runtime of the saga edition also included commercials.

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Re: The Godfather Films (Francis Ford Coppola, 1972/1974/199

#79 Post by Roger Ryan » Wed Jan 06, 2016 9:18 am

flyonthewall2983 wrote:I'd guess that it's not trimmed either, that the 7-hour runtime of the saga edition also included commercials.
I wondered if that might be the case. However, if the Wiki article is to be trusted, there are numerous deleted scenes that were reinstated for the (supposedly longer) "Saga" version that were not included in the "Epic" version. Having only seen the theatrical films, I have no first hand knowledge of how these mega-edits played out.

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#80 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Wed Jan 06, 2016 5:29 pm

Though 20 minutes of commercials over a 7-hour span would push the term "limited commercial interruption" to an insane degree.

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Re: The Godfather Part III (Coppola, 1990)

#81 Post by Linus » Fri Aug 26, 2016 12:35 pm

I'm pondering a connection between this film and the Coppola project that followed, Bram Stoker's Dracula (1992).

Consider the scene where Vincent and Michael discuss the former's "godfatherhood": Michael looks much like a tired vampire who considers his legacy a curse passed on to someone beloved and ignorant of the pain born of violence.

I imagine this as being symptomatic of the ideas Coppola was interested in during the early 90s and a reason why he retold the Dracula story the way he did.

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Re: The Godfather Part III (Coppola, 1990)

#82 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Sat Aug 27, 2016 4:08 am

"You were my horror" was a nice callback to Apocalypse Now

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Re: The Godfather Part III (Coppola, 1990)

#83 Post by squirm114 » Tue Sep 06, 2016 11:32 am

The only aspect of III which I liked was the character of Connie, Michael's sister. In I and II, she was against all of the violence and murder that her brother committed. In III, she became a conspirator, a kind of witch who helped Michael to commit more murders.

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Re: The Godfather Films (Francis Ford Coppola, 1972/1974/199

#84 Post by TMDaines » Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:21 pm

There really needs to be a new restoration and Blu-ray of The Godfather. I projected that tonight and it is really showing its limitations. Any dark scenes are just covered in highly digital, often coloured noise. The colour timing is also highly inconsistent from shot to shot even within the same scene. Maybe this 4k resto is just a product of its time, but it’s pretty crap.

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Re: The Godfather Films (Francis Ford Coppola, 1972/1974/199

#85 Post by aox » Sat Dec 02, 2017 10:41 pm

hearthesilence wrote:Wikipedia's list of material included in this "epic" edit which is surprisingly a lot.
I guess what I describe above is the "Trilogy" cut since it includes most of the deleted scenes in the "Saga", plus the third film.
TMDaines wrote:There really needs to be a new restoration and Blu-ray of The Godfather. I projected that tonight and it is really showing its limitations. Any dark scenes are just covered in highly digital, often coloured noise. The colour timing is also highly inconsistent from shot to shot even within the same scene. Maybe this 4k resto is just a product of its time, but it’s pretty crap.
I still think the BDs on my 60" 1080p look superb. But, I can imagine the limitations past 80" or so. I can't imagine this not getting a 4K BD release.

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Re: The Godfather Films (Francis Ford Coppola, 1972/1974/199

#86 Post by TMDaines » Sun Dec 03, 2017 5:12 am

When I last watched it on my much smaller TV, I remember wondering why some were disappointed with this disc, so I somewhat agree. I’ll see how Part 2 looks in the next couple of weeks.

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Re: The Godfather Films (Francis Ford Coppola, 1972/1974/199

#87 Post by Drucker » Sun Dec 03, 2017 5:59 pm

Jeez I continue to think those two discs are absolutely ravishing. I've seen an IB Tech Print of Godfather 2 and think the transfer we are given is superb.

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Re: The Godfather Films (Francis Ford Coppola, 1972/1974/199

#88 Post by Lachino » Mon Dec 04, 2017 8:37 am

Well, I think it looks pretty crap on my 40" monitor. Definitely high time for an upgrade.

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Re: The Godfather Films (Francis Ford Coppola, 1972/1974/199

#89 Post by jedgeco » Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:07 pm

aox wrote:
TMDaines wrote:There really needs to be a new restoration and Blu-ray of The Godfather. I projected that tonight and it is really showing its limitations. Any dark scenes are just covered in highly digital, often coloured noise. The colour timing is also highly inconsistent from shot to shot even within the same scene. Maybe this 4k resto is just a product of its time, but it’s pretty crap.
I still think the BDs on my 60" 1080p look superb. But, I can imagine the limitations past 80" or so. I can't imagine this not getting a 4K BD release.
I projected Part I last night and was pretty pleased with the presentation. There are some definite limitations and high grain levels in some low-light shots, but I'm not convinced that those are not limitations of the source material. There's also a good bit of historical stock-footage that was (to me) noticeable for the first time.

I'm sure those issues could be smoothed out if you were so inclined, but I'm not sure that would make anyone happy either.

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Re: The Godfather Trilogy (Francis Ford Coppola, 1972-1990)

#90 Post by Drucker » Mon Feb 26, 2018 5:25 pm

Don't forget, I believe the OCN of Godfather is long gone...so it's certainly not a perfect first gen source.


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