The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (David Fincher, 2011)

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Re: The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (David Fincher, 2011)

#404 Post by oh yeah » Thu Nov 19, 2015 3:39 pm

I finally watched this. Absolutely loved it; I think it's my favorite Fincher, with all due respect to Gone Girl and Zodiac which are right up there. Didn't catch it in theaters and held off for a while because I have a hard time watching rape scenes and this one sounded awful. Well, it is awful, but in the right way. There's absolutely no hint of titillation, no sexualization, glamorization. It's possibly the most horrific thing I've seen in a film in recent memory; I watched Irreversible years ago and though my memory of it is faded I have the impression even that was not quite so definitively stomach-churning in its portrait of sexual violence as Fincher's film. Particularly hard to take were Lisabeth's anguished screams and howls and grunts throughout as she tries in vain to do anything, anything at all, to get out even though she knows she can't. That moment when he handcuffs her and she realizes what she's in for and we track slowly away from the closed door... absolutely chilling. In short, I don't think this scene was mishandled at all, though I can see myself skipping it over on re-watches.

Visually and in terms of the editing, the film, like Gone Girl and Social Network, shows Fincher getting better and better as he carves out his own style and evolves it further. I mean, he's been a distinct auteur since the 90s but I think there's clearly a switch of aesthetics between Panic Room and Zodiac (though I haven't seen Button, which seems like an outlier) -- and then the last three flicks, with their continuity of the wonderful Reznor/Ross scores and crisp RED-filmed image, seem to me very different from Se7en, The Game and Fight Club, more mature and complex in their play of images. I was just so drawn into this film; Fincher's fast-paced editing style is invigorating without ever being manic and unreadable, every shot carries a certain weight to it, it's just like a masterclass of cinema. And I'm a long time skeptic of the director, but recently I just can't avoid how brilliant the last few films have been in taking on a kind of new style of their own; information-packed, digitally shot treatises on the cruelty and double-crosses and traps of the modern world, scored by this perfectly, sometimes oddly upbeat electronic music which, in a way, recalls a new incarnation of all those Tangerine Dream-scored films in the late 70s/early 80s. The major-key uplift and chugging forward movement of the score goes perfectly with the tenor of the editing which is so relentless and scientifically exact. It's some of the most precise filmmaking out there.

And the cast, yes, wonderful. I dunno, I really need to see this a second time to give a more coherent and balanced response perhaps, but for now I just found this film an embarassment of riches.
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Also, did anyone else get reminded of Mann's Manhunter in the scene of Craig being held captive while Enya plays? not only the white, white wall behind him (like Lecter's cell in that film), plus Fincher's general debt to Mann, but also the incongruous choice of music, as with Iron Butterfly at the climax of Manhunter.
Further on that, I bet Mann watched this film at least a few times in preparation for Blackhat. Both are brilliantly incisive portraits of our digitized, globalized world. Both Mann and Fincher imbue technology with both awe and a sense of alien eeriness in their depiction of isolated loners with a mastery of the technical coming together with another person for the greater good and forming a tentative bond that's not guaranteed to last. And both may be my favorite films of the decade thus far, for what that's worth.

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Re: The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (David Fincher, 2011)

#405 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:48 pm

Sony is releasing this (and Panic Room) on 4K Blu October 30th.

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Re: The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (David Fincher, 2011)

#406 Post by Lost Highway » Fri Aug 31, 2018 3:26 am

flyonthewall2983 wrote:
Thu Aug 30, 2018 8:48 pm
Sony is releasing this (and Panic Room) on 4K Blu October 30th.
Cool, I’m more interested in Panic Room finally getting a blu-ray release.

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Re: The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (David Fincher, 2011)

#407 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:16 am

I'd think any release of Fincher's movies on 4K would look damn sharp. Especially the recent ones, since he shot them in that format.

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Re: The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (David Fincher, 2011)

#408 Post by tenia » Fri Aug 31, 2018 9:23 am

Gone Girl would be litterally the perfect choice for UHD, since it's one of the only movies to have had a full 4K workflow (Blade Runner 2049 is close enough, but still is 3.4K, not 4K).

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Re: The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (David Fincher, 2011)

#409 Post by domino harvey » Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:10 pm

The 4K has been cancelled-- tell me again about how Criterion is going to start releasing UHD discs when these can't even get off the ground

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Re: The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (David Fincher, 2011)

#410 Post by Monterey Jack » Fri Sep 14, 2018 8:34 am

Panic Room is one of the films I've been waiting for a Blu release of the most...it's the last standard-def holdout in my Fincher collection. The film was a big hit when released, so I don't know what the holdup is.

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Re: The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (David Fincher, 2011)

#411 Post by Roscoe » Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:54 am

I could swear that I heard someone, in a discussion about film preservation and the importance of film on actual film in terms of preservation, claim that PANIC ROOM's original digital files (you know what I mean) were not properly maintained and the film basically didn't really exist anymore outside of a few DVDs, which is why the film hasn't appeared on Blu-Ray.

Can anyone back that up, or tell me how very wrong I am?

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Re: The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (David Fincher, 2011)

#412 Post by solaris72 » Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:05 am

Roscoe wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:54 am
I could swear that I heard someone, in a discussion about film preservation and the importance of film on actual film in terms of preservation, claim that PANIC ROOM's original digital files (you know what I mean) were not properly maintained and the film basically didn't really exist anymore outside of a few DVDs, which is why the film hasn't appeared on Blu-Ray.

Can anyone back that up, or tell me how very wrong I am?
It seems to be available to stream in HD.

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Re: The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (David Fincher, 2011)

#413 Post by mfunk9786 » Fri Sep 14, 2018 11:09 am

domino harvey wrote:
Thu Sep 13, 2018 10:10 pm
The 4K has been cancelled-- tell me again about how Criterion is going to start releasing UHD discs when these can't even get off the ground
Don't ask me to tell you again, because I absolutely will \:D/

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Re: The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo (David Fincher, 2011)

#414 Post by Roger Ryan » Fri Sep 14, 2018 12:54 pm

solaris72 wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 10:05 am
Roscoe wrote:
Fri Sep 14, 2018 9:54 am
I could swear that I heard someone, in a discussion about film preservation and the importance of film on actual film in terms of preservation, claim that PANIC ROOM's original digital files (you know what I mean) were not properly maintained and the film basically didn't really exist anymore outside of a few DVDs, which is why the film hasn't appeared on Blu-Ray.

Can anyone back that up, or tell me how very wrong I am?
It seems to be available to stream in HD.
Given that Panic Room was released theatrically in 2002, there had to have been numerous 35mm prints shipped to cinemas (even if the film was shot and finished digitally). If a protection print is not in storage and the digital files are, indeed, corrupted beyond use, a decent restoration could still be done using exhibition prints.

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