Phantom Thread (Paul Thomas Anderson, 2017)

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#276 Post by R0lf » Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:28 pm

mfunk9786 wrote:
R0lf wrote:Isn't it the point of the movie that the clothing is all outrageously ugly?

That the entire thing is a comedy of manners?
No?

It may seem that way to us because it's 2018, but in its time and place it absolutely isn't. You might want to inform everyone who worked on the costumes that it's all a big joke, they certainly don't seem in on it.
At the same time I'll inform the award winning costume team behind PRISCILLA QUEEN OF THE DESERT that their designs were all in deliberate good taste.

Design to the dialogue; I think it's strange the Oscar critic who called the gowns frumpy/unimaginative/unflattering/ugly somehow missed that that was also the narrative in the movie.

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#277 Post by mfunk9786 » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:04 pm

The dialogue indicates that the clothing is all outrageously ugly?

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#278 Post by Big Ben » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:05 pm

R0lf wrote:Design to the dialogue; I think it's strange the Oscar critic who called the gowns frumpy/unimaginative/unflattering/ugly somehow missed that that was also the narrative in the movie.
Seeing as these publications have only been posting the hottest steaming takes from anonymous voters it actually makes a lot of sense that it's there.

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#279 Post by R0lf » Wed Feb 21, 2018 12:21 am

mfunk9786 wrote:The dialogue indicates that the clothing is all outrageously ugly?
Maybe I read the scene where Woodcock shrieks how bad the dress design is before collapsing on it too literally?

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#280 Post by mfunk9786 » Wed Feb 21, 2018 1:18 am

I’d contend that you did.

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#281 Post by HinkyDinkyTruesmith » Wed Feb 21, 2018 1:25 am

He doesn't shriek that the dress is bad, he looks it over and mutters that it's not very good, despite the good work his employees put in.

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#282 Post by hearthesilence » Wed Mar 07, 2018 6:52 pm

Film Forum has put up the podcasts for Liv Ullmann's Q&A's from last week. During the longer discussion following Shame, there's a charming moment where she talks about Phantom Thread and how she could relate to the breakfast scenes because breakfast was also a tense time when she was living with Ingmar Bergman for similar reasons.

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#283 Post by Ribs » Thu Mar 08, 2018 3:46 pm

mfunk9786 wrote:There is a UHD listing on Amazon UK with no release date now

I am seeing it suggested on Twitter by people with far more knowledge of the UK home video market that preordering this, despite it being [in essence] a placeholder, will increase the odds and speed with which it becomes a reality. Even if you don't have a 4K Blu-ray player - if you love this film, I hope you'd consider placing a risk-free preorder just to get the numbers to tick up. Would love to see it actually released, and apparently there is a precedent of Universal releasing 4K titles overseas months before they do so in the US in some cases.

And UHD/4K Blu-ray is completely region free.

So yeah, that's my pitch! Pre-order it! Do it for................. me! And other people!
Apparently, the UHD is back on for the US, and will be announced formally soon. So... I guess we won?

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#284 Post by mfunk9786 » Thu Mar 08, 2018 4:38 pm

Hell yes!

Street date is listed as May 8th per Universal

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#287 Post by Roger Ryan » Thu Mar 29, 2018 8:53 am

That must be from the "For The Hungry Boy" extra! I can't imagine that brief bit of improv would have ever been seriously considered for inclusion as it would have upset the balance between Reynolds and Cyril for the remainder of the film. Still, it looks like everyone is having fun; must have been early in the shoot before things turned morose.

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#288 Post by MoonlitKnight » Thu Mar 29, 2018 11:21 am

And meanwhile we'll likely never see the pie fight scene from "Dr. Strangelove"... #-o

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#289 Post by bearcuborg » Thu Mar 29, 2018 1:41 pm

I caught this during its last showing here in Philadelphia-I remember liking the music quite a bit. Foolish Heart was used nicely. I’m pretty sure I heard Revel, Brahms and maybe Weill. The fashion was glorious too. It might be the first PTA film I liked after seeing it...

With Tavernier’s documentary in mind, I saw a lot of Jacques Becker in this one.


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#292 Post by Big Ben » Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:32 pm

DarkImbecile wrote:Today in Missing the Point: Why Phantom Thread is Propaganda for Toxic Masculinity
The response to this in my bubble has been downright dismissive especially from women. It's an absolutely ridiculous article.

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#293 Post by ianthemovie » Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:53 pm

A friend of mine--whose opinion on film I typically admire--posted this to Facebook, much to my bafflement. I was absolutely astonished by its ridiculous generalizations and assumptions. So...Phantom Thread is comparable to Communist-era propaganda? And its misogyny is on par with that of real-life serial predators/rapists like Harvey Weinstein? I don't even know where to begin with the claim that Apocalypse Now, The Green Berets, and the films of Kathryn Bigelow somehow all represent Hollywood studio filmmaking (and therefore dominant ideology) in equal measure. Barf.

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#294 Post by Big Ben » Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:01 pm

Yeah I totally "loved" Kathryn Bigolow's Zero Dark Thirty which she changed because it hurt the CIA's feelings. Totally normal thing to do. But yeah there's a difference between being churlish and being a rapist. I mean what the fuck? And this article was written by a man for those who missed it. And that was what really annoyed the women I saw who derided the piece. They thought it was not only flat out wrong but that it was rather disingenuous for a man in this capacity to be telling them what they should be thinking.


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#296 Post by domino harvey » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:20 pm

This is the first major studio release in the US I've seen use a clear case too

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#297 Post by mfunk9786 » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:47 pm

That was also the cover of the 70mm program. Lovely, even though this is a weirdly difficult film to do really great poster/home video art for

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#298 Post by John Shade » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:53 pm

Sadly I missed this in theaters, should I wait it out and get the 4K?

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#299 Post by mfunk9786 » Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:26 pm

If you have a way to play the disc I don’t see why you wouldn’t

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#300 Post by hearthesilence » Wed Apr 11, 2018 7:29 pm

mfunk9786 wrote:That was also the cover of the 70mm program. Lovely, even though this is a weirdly difficult film to do really great poster/home video art for
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