The Cloverfield Paradox (Julius Onah, 2018)

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The Cloverfield Paradox (Julius Onah, 2018)

#1 Post by Ribs » Sun Feb 04, 2018 7:28 pm

The third Cloverfield film will be put on Netflix tonight in a nightmare publicity stunt that joyfully proclaims the death of cinema

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#2 Post by domino harvey » Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:43 am

Formerly the God Particle, the third Cloverfield movie is indeed streaming now. And to think a few years ago people thought two months was a short time for the second one to be coming out!

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#3 Post by The Narrator Returns » Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:50 am

The reactions I've been reading suggest this might have been endlessly delayed and now dumped for a good reason.

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#4 Post by TraverseTown » Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:05 am

I'm not sure I really agree with the assertions that this was so bad that it had to be dumped onto a streaming platform. It was way more engaging than another recent space movie Geostorm and at least on par with the quality and production value of Life. Only thing it doesn't have is star power, but the Cloverfield franchise name probably could have filled in that gap.

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#5 Post by pzadvance » Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:38 am

This was absolutely horrible and nonsensical on every level

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#6 Post by Ribs » Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:29 am

Paramount had an absolutely terrible last quarter last year so it's really not shocking they've taken their Q1 2018 films and basically stripped them for raw cash resources as a safety net

There's some theorizing that this whole thing has only sprung up as a result of Abrams having to bow out of helping in the post-production process once they signed him back at Star Wars, and that's when they decided to just give up and sell it off.

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#7 Post by Boosmahn » Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:05 pm

Why? Why did they have to do this? Must Netflix get their hands on everything, denying any theater showings and Blu-ray releases?

What does this say for future films? Any chance other, better movies will get this "treatment?" I Don't Feel at Home in This World Anymore, the new Macon Blair film, was released by them, as well as (and I just learned this) Jeremy Saulnier's Hold the Dark, which just destroyed my hope for a home video release.

That being said, the reactions for The Cloverfield Paradox are pretty bad. Guess it was shoved onto a streaming platform for good reason.
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#8 Post by tenia » Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:09 pm

It really likes like Netflix is slowly replacing these very small releases for when studios get in trouble in a movie they don't know what to do anymore but still want it to be out.
15 years ago, Cloverfield Paradox would have ended up in a 30-screens combination or straight on DTV. Now, Netflix is there to handle these situations when the studios don't want to or don't know how.
It's made all the more practical that's it's probably better both for the studio financially (it's cheaper and probably more profitable as a whole) and for the movie itself which probably ends up being more easily accessed by the viewership.
However, I'm afraid it might make some decision-makers in the studios even lazier than they can already be today when trying to properly market and release their movies.

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#9 Post by davoarid » Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:13 pm

Boosmahn wrote:Why? Why did they have to do this? Must Netflix get their hands on everything, denying any theater showings and Blu-ray releases?

What does this say for future films? Any chance other, better movies will get this "treatment?" I Don't Feel at Home in This World Anymore, the new Macon Blair film, was released by them, as well as (and I just learned this) Jeremy Saulnier's Hold the Dark, which just destroyed my hope for a home video release.
NOoooo!

Say what you will about the film’s quality, but I don’t think anything will ever top my experience watching Saulnier’s previous film (Green Room) on the big screen. It was SOOOO scary and tense I could barely move—after it was over I went into the bright lobby and just sat there for half an hour catching my breath to prepare myself for the long drive home.

And now I’ll get to see his follow-up streaming on WiFi as I fold the laundry. What a world.

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#10 Post by Boosmahn » Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:15 pm

davoarid wrote: And now I’ll get to see his follow-up streaming on WiFi as I fold the laundry. What a world.
Not to devolve into a circlejerk, but there's something really special about watching films like Blue Ruin and Green Room on the big screen/popping in a Blu-ray, unlike the streaming quality on Netflix. Maybe it'll get a release in the UK or something?

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#11 Post by willoneill » Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:38 pm

I liked The Cloverfield Paradox a lot more 10 years ago when it was called Sunshine.

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#12 Post by jazzo » Tue Feb 06, 2018 1:43 pm

I'm a huge fan of the first half of SUNSHINE. It kind-of falls apart once it becomes a different movie, but at least it attempted to do something other than the norm. I sort of felt that way about LIFE, too. The first half, when it's still this enigmatic amorphous little blob, is much more interesting than the second, and it devolves into a big monster-hunting-its-prey movie.

But honestly, I enjoyed the all-too-brief brief pleasures of LIFE, SUNSHINE and THE CLOVERFIELD PARADOX way more than either of Ridley Scott's recent ALIEN films. I hated pretty much everything about those things, from the nonsensical logic and obtuse assholery of almost every single character, to the oddly slap-dash and amateurish (at least in my opinion) nature of the filmmaking.

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#13 Post by hearthesilence » Tue Feb 06, 2018 3:22 pm

I'm not exactly a Cloverfield fan so I've been skipping over this thread, but just now I caught the name of the director and it's a bit of a trip because I was introduced to him back in 2009 through peers/friends in journalism. (A mutual acquaintance invited the two of us to take part in a journalistic endeavor that never really took off - I think the hope was that it would become an eventual successor to Current TV.) I lost track of him since then, but he was a nice, decent fellow so I'm disappointed that this isn't turning into the breakthrough that he probably hoped for, even if I'm not a fan of the franchise itself.

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#14 Post by mfunk9786 » Tue Feb 06, 2018 3:23 pm

jazzo wrote:But honestly, I enjoyed the all-too-brief brief pleasures of LIFE, SUNSHINE and THE CLOVERFIELD PARADOX way more than either of Ridley Scott's recent ALIEN films.
This is exactly the sort of thing that can make me go from an eye roll to heightened interest in a film. Will definitely be watching this now. Thanks!

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#15 Post by jazzo » Wed Feb 07, 2018 7:05 am

Oh, there’s a bunch of generic bullshit and inexplicable storytelling choices in there, and it still comes off as unsatisfying and a slightly wasted opportunity, so it probably deserves a half (single) eye roll, but I found the characters refreshingly positive folks instead of reprehensible shitheads, which, for me, puts it well above two out of the three Ridley Scott Alien films. Long sentence.

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#16 Post by Murdoch » Fri Feb 09, 2018 10:47 pm

I'll echo the sentiment of enjoying this more than either of Scott's recent Alien entries, if only because it doesn't try to be anything more than a dumb sci-fi movie (complete with the reliable motivation of searching for "infinite energy!"). I can see why this was dumped on Netflix, as it has more in common with Event Horizon than either of the earlier Cloverfields. The ending is pure schlock and kind of hilarious.

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#17 Post by domino harvey » Sat Feb 10, 2018 8:10 pm

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#18 Post by Lost Highway » Sun Feb 11, 2018 3:38 am

This is as bad as they say, though watchable enough thanks to a capable cast. The film it reminded me the most of was Walter Hill’s Supernova, which also got lost in post production. Anybody who wants to watch a monster movie which actually is a good film could do worse than watching The Ritual, which also just landed on Netflix.
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#19 Post by jazzo » Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:49 am

Lost Highway wrote:This is as bad as they say, though watchable enough thanks to a capable cast. The film it reminded me the most of was Walter Hill’s Supernova, which also get lost in post production. Anybody who wants to watch a monster movie which actually is a good film could do worse than watching The Ritual, which also just landed on Netflix.
Thanks for the suggestion. The Ritual was a much better waste of my time.

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