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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2017 6:57 pm 
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They appear ot have followed exactly the color timing and grading from their frankly awful 2005 DVD. There may be an issue here vis a vis the paler color saturation of US 40s IB prints vs more saturated British (London HEathrow facility) IB prints for reference and grading by the colorist. As far as I know this 4K was managed entirely within Grover Crisp's team at Sony, without any input from Thelma or Scorsese.

Regarding the farily horrible pink-ish color in the trailer one has to couch it in the context of a very highly filtered and compressed viedo. But it does not fill me with confidence.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 4:43 pm 
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Saw last night at the BFI. Was frankly jaw droppingly good compared to how i have seen it before.

Cant wait for a lavish BR set from someone..anyone know who will be doing it?

ITV in UK and Criterion US do we think?


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 5:13 pm 
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filmyfan wrote:
Saw last night at the BFI. Was frankly jaw droppingly good compared to how i have seen it before.

Cant wait for a lavish BR set from someone..anyone know who will be doing it?

ITV in UK and Criterion US do we think?


Since it is Sony, could very well be Criterion in both continents.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 6:34 pm 
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I don't think Sony has any UK distribution rights. ITV released the DVD(s) and Park Circus (who are theatrically releasing the Sony restoration in the UK) list ITV as the rights holder. So presumably Criterion would have to work out a separate deal with ITV to do a UK edition.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 7:22 pm 

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I've also wondered why Criterion hasn't reacquired the rights to THe Tales of HOffmann, since it was restored not long ago by the same people who handled The Red Shoes and Colonel Blimp.

Could it be Criterion might be holding out for a two-fer release, of this and AMOLAD, much as they did with Red Shoes and Black Narcissus?


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 8:03 pm 
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The thing about Hoffmann is that it's owned by Canal, who don't generally license to Criterion. That said, Thelma Schoonmaker said in 2015 that Criterion would be releasing the restoration.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2017 8:05 pm 
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FWIW, the version of Hoffman currently streaming on Filmstruck is the old DVD version despite obviously being licensed by StudioCanal (presumably to include the audio commentary for the shorter cut). There's an HD version of AMOLAD up but I'd imagine it's not the newly restored version for obvious reasons.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 01, 2018 12:37 am 

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david hare wrote:
As far as I know this 4K was managed entirely within Grover Crisp's team at Sony, without any input from Thelma or Scorsese.


Not quite, according to Post Magazine:

"Throughout the re-mastering process, Crisp and Eisenberg strove to maintain a consistent and authentic approach to color. As reference, they had the previous photo-chemical restoration, which had been prepared in consultation with Jack Cardiff, the film’s cinematographer. They also consulted with Academy Award-winning editor Thelma Schoonmaker, who had been married to Powell, and remains actively involved in the preservation and restoration of her late husband’s work."

Ribs wrote:
FWIW, the version of Hoffman currently streaming on Filmstruck is the old DVD version despite obviously being licensed by StudioCanal (presumably to include the audio commentary for the shorter cut). There's an HD version of AMOLAD up but I'd imagine it's not the newly restored version for obvious reasons.


It's not even the DVD transfer, it seems to be from the laserdisc era.


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 7:55 am 
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I saw this yesterday and it is indeed quite a beautiful presentation. Looking forward to the blu for sure.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 07, 2018 11:17 pm 
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I caught this at the Castro Theatre over the weekend. I'd started it on Filmstruck last week (not realizing the 4K would make it here so soon) and only made it 10 or so minutes before getting frustrated by the quality and turning it off. I regret having stated that version at all; the opening scene still had me sobbing but damn I wish I'd seen the restored version first. This looked great, though. I could imagine the colors maybe popping more in earlier prints but I wouldn't call this muted. It was great seeing this on a big screen with a crowd, too. There was a fun moment when
[Reveal] Spoiler:
Time froze during the ping-pong and half the audience (including me) was audibly worried there was a DCP issue
Plus Roger Livesey crushes it.

Anyway, I loved it and even though I didn't come away as awe-struck as when I saw Red Shoes, Colonel Blimp, or I Know Where I'm Going! it's still a wonderful film and I'm looking forward to a Blu (or ideally ultra HD) release.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 2:58 pm 
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Caught the restoration today and happy to say it's miles better than the current Blu I had seen prior. There was one brief shot where the Controller was introduced that looked a little rough, but otherwise it looked stunning. Sincerely hope they can get a disc out by the winter holidays.


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