Camera Obscura: The Walerian Borowczyk Collection

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Re: Camera Obscura: The Walerian Borowczyk Collection

#601 Post by Charles » Tue Sep 02, 2014 3:21 pm

tenia wrote:Meanwhile, I specifically asked Amazon through their chat to ensure this "expensive and already sold out product will be properly secured for transportation because if it arrives damaged, getting a replacement will be impossible".

I have no idea if it will be enough, but they told me they have contacted their warehouse to ensure this will be done.

Hopefully, it will also arrives securely.
I've just sent MovieMail a note along these lines, and will post the reply. I would also hope that all of the vendors are hearing from people with this concern.

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#602 Post by chatterjees » Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:45 am

I just got a reply back from Arrow saying that they are anticipating to ship out the box for me next week. Now, I am in USA and a non-kickstarter customer. So, I am going to conclude that they will begin to ship the non-kickstarter sets for US customers next week. Hope this information helps.

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Re: Camera Obscura: The Walerian Borowczyk Collection

#603 Post by What A Disgrace » Wed Sep 03, 2014 12:09 pm

Do Kickstarter projects even get shipping notices? I assume they do, but I've never done a Kickstarter project, so I'm not sure how it works. In any case, I haven't gotten one yet.

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Re: Camera Obscura: The Walerian Borowczyk Collection

#604 Post by colinr0380 » Wed Sep 03, 2014 12:28 pm

I don't think that there are shipping notices. I've just received my copy of the set today (567 of 1000!) and the last thing I did was to fill in the survey confirming the shipping address. It did arrive in a sturdy box though!

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Re: Camera Obscura: The Walerian Borowczyk Collection

#605 Post by Finch » Thu Sep 04, 2014 6:45 am

My Boro set arrived today in excellent condition. I have the spine number 904. My multi-region BD player is permanently stuck on Region A due to some defect and I don't get paid till Sept 26 so won't be able to buy a new player and watch this set for another month. PS.: Looking at the discs I noticed the short films disc is region-free so I'll be able to watch these for now at least. Beautiful set and illustrations by the way.

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Re: Camera Obscura: The Walerian Borowczyk Collection

#606 Post by GaryC » Thu Sep 04, 2014 7:58 am

Finch wrote:My Boro set arrived today in excellent condition. I have the spine number 904. My multi-region BD player is permanently stuck on Region A due to some defect and I don't get paid till Sept 26 so won't be able to buy a new player and watch this set for another month. PS.: Looking at the discs I noticed the short films disc is region-free so I'll be able to watch these for now at least. Beautiful set and illustrations by the way.
Goto is regon-free as well.

Mine has arrived today, number 595.

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#607 Post by MichaelB » Thu Sep 04, 2014 8:04 am

GaryC wrote:Goto is regon-free as well.
No it isn't - Sony mislabelled the checkdiscs, which I imagine is your source for this misinformation. But the first thing I checked when they arrived was whether that was actually the case, and thankfully it wasn't.

("Thankfully" because region-locking was a contractual condition with regard to the three Argos features.)

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Re: Camera Obscura: The Walerian Borowczyk Collection

#608 Post by swo17 » Thu Sep 04, 2014 10:51 am

Isn't Blanche also region-free?

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#609 Post by MichaelB » Thu Sep 04, 2014 10:53 am

swo17 wrote:Isn't Blanche also region-free?
Yes, because it doesn't include an Argos-owned feature. Basically, Arrow's policy on region-locking is exactly the same as the BFI's and Eureka's - they don't do it if they don't have to, but usually they have to.

But Goto is definitely Region B, as requested by Argos and as personally tested by me in a Region A player - or rather, tested as far as its refusal to play.

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Re: Camera Obscura: The Walerian Borowczyk Collection

#610 Post by EddieLarkin » Thu Sep 04, 2014 1:38 pm

I received mine also, number 580. A perfect collection in perfect condition, smelling straight out of the factory. I've already flicked through the book, mainly Part 4 (I'll save the essays for after the films), and my eye was caught by the fact that even the minutiae of how the films were encoded optimally is addressed (heh, it's an aspect of film reproduction I find very interesting). Indeed, the whole essay appears to be the be all and end all of "About The Restoration" sections of booklets (it's 25 flippin' pages!). It bodes well that some early commentator's suggestions that this may be the zenith of the Blu-ray format might actually be the case. Can't wait to dig in properly.

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#611 Post by David M. » Thu Sep 04, 2014 3:46 pm

and my eye was caught by the fact that even the minutiae of how the films were encoded optimally is addressed (heh, it's an aspect of film reproduction I find very interesting).
Glad to hear this :)
It'd be kinda silly to do a nice new scan and restoration if the texture of the film gets lost!

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Re: Camera Obscura: The Walerian Borowczyk Collection

#612 Post by EddieLarkin » Thu Sep 04, 2014 5:32 pm

David M. wrote:It'd be kinda silly to do a nice new scan and restoration if the texture of the film gets lost!
I was thinking precisely this when I popped in my Blu-ray of Vinegar Syndrome's Graduation Day, which came from a new 4K scan. This is a shot of the master used to advertise the BD on Facebook, this is what the BD actually looks like (they're not exact frames but I've compared the former image to the exact frame on the disc and like the latter image, it's a mess).

I'm glad some labels recognise the importance of proper encoding.

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#613 Post by David M. » Thu Sep 04, 2014 6:04 pm

Ow.

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Re: Camera Obscura: The Walerian Borowczyk Collection

#614 Post by zeroism » Thu Sep 04, 2014 9:57 pm

SonOfRambow wrote:Zavvi still have plenty of copies available, of which I've been assured by them they will definitely receive. £10 cheaper than Moviemail too.
Or perhaps not, as today I received a cancellation notice from Zavvi, stating: "Borowczyk Collection is no longer available. We have tried to source further stock but we have been unsuccessful, sorry to disappoint you." I placed my order on 25th July, well before the above was posted. Was anyone else's order cancelled?

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Re: Camera Obscura: The Walerian Borowczyk Collection

#615 Post by EddieLarkin » Fri Sep 05, 2014 4:08 am

Arrow posted this June 17th:
***CAMERA OBSCURA UPDATE***

It now looks as if we have completely sold out of this title! What this means is that all stock is allocated to each retailer based on your pre-orders, which means that each will likely have a small amount of stock available. If you have ALREADY pre-ordered this title from us or a retailer such as Amazon your pre-order has been confirmed and you WILL receive a copy of the set. If you have yet to pre-order there is no guarantee you will receive a copy.

If at any point we discover that more stock is available (some retailers may return unsold stock at a later date) this will go back on sale via the Arrow Store.
It sounds like Zavvi were just treating this like any other title when they were giving guarantees that they could source it.

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Re: Camera Obscura: The Walerian Borowczyk Collection

#616 Post by Dr Amicus » Sat Sep 06, 2014 5:37 am

Mine just arrived, safe and sound, number 484. It looks a lovely set - I haven't dared break the cellophane yet!

But I will - I might treat myself to a couple of shorts tonight, Mrs Amicus is out tonight but her mum is around to help babysitting and to allow me to act as taxi driver. Mind you, I can imagine a couple of the features might appeal to her (she has odd tastes...) but I don't know if I could cope watching them with her!

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Re: Camera Obscura: The Walerian Borowczyk Collection

#617 Post by RyanGallagher » Tue Sep 09, 2014 11:39 am

My order from Zavvi was just cancelled this morning.

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Re: Camera Obscura: The Walerian Borowczyk Collection

#618 Post by Drucker » Tue Sep 09, 2014 11:47 am

Has anyone in the USA had theirs arrived yet?

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Re: Camera Obscura: The Walerian Borowczyk Collection

#619 Post by TMDaines » Tue Sep 09, 2014 11:55 am

Mine was cancelled too from Zavvi without notification; I logged in and saw it.

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#620 Post by criterion10 » Tue Sep 09, 2014 12:50 pm

Drucker wrote:Has anyone in the USA had theirs arrived yet?
Mine hasn't arrived yet (the delivery estimate is for the end of the month), but I ordered mine back in May from Amazon, and it shipped a few days ago.

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Re: Camera Obscura: The Walerian Borowczyk Collection

#621 Post by Drucker » Tue Sep 09, 2014 1:43 pm

Mine's from the Kickstarter. I had it sent to my parent's house just in case, as I may set a moving date soon. Just wondering.

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Re: Camera Obscura: The Walerian Borowczyk Collection

#622 Post by NABOB OF NOWHERE » Tue Sep 09, 2014 2:42 pm

Kickstarter no 0076 arrived in France this morning Hope someone is noting all this down.

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Re: Camera Obscura: The Walerian Borowczyk Collection

#623 Post by Adam X » Tue Sep 09, 2014 2:45 pm

Arrow mentioned on Facebook that they're done shipping the Kickstarter copies, and are about to get on with the rest ordered by us slackers and fence sitters. So I imagine it won't be long now, for those pacing in nervous anticipation.

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Re: Camera Obscura: The Walerian Borowczyk Collection

#624 Post by frankiecrisp » Tue Sep 09, 2014 3:51 pm

I pre ordered from moviemail months ago no sign yet not even a dispatch date, looks like ive dropped a huge clanger

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Re: Camera Obscura: The Walerian Borowczyk Collection

#625 Post by reaky » Tue Sep 09, 2014 3:55 pm

I asked Arrow about this on Twitter and was told "All retailers should have their allocation by now. We would suggest that you contact them direct for more info." I'm still waiting on a reply from Zavvi. No cancellation from them yet (I ordered in early May, so fingers crossed they see me right).

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