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Re: New Films in Production

#1826 Post by mfunk9786 » Wed May 16, 2012 6:38 pm

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Mr Sausage wrote:Also, haven't DGG's films become less and less stylish over time?
That's the part that worries me. He's moved away from tastefully sunlit Malickian abstraction to... well, I don't quite know how to describe the visual style of Pineapple Express and Your Highness. Grimy classicism?
I thought Pineapple Express had a pretty striking visual style, but I'm with you on Your Highness looking like a rather flat collection of quickly built sets. I think he still has the talent in him, he just used it for something different for a while. I don't know that a director can just lose something like that, can he?

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Re: New Films in Production

#1827 Post by Mr Sausage » Wed May 16, 2012 7:04 pm

mfunk wrote:I don't know that a director can just lose something like that, can he?
Well, yeah, he can. It probably isn't hard to come up with examples of directors (or other artists) who just suddenly lost their ability to do what they used to be able to do. People change, and creativity is such an inconstant thing anyway that you can wake up one day and find you no longer have the type of inspiration you used to have. And an extended period not using the faculty in question definitely doesn't help.

So the question is whether or not DGG is still the same guy who made George Washington.

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#1828 Post by zedz » Wed May 16, 2012 8:08 pm

I'm hoping that the proper answer to the "why remake Suspiria?" question is: to give the new filmmakers licence to unleash a crazy visual spectacle. That's basically the property's brand, and if Green et al. don't deliver, it will be a pointless exercise.

Best case scenario: Green gets to become as over-the-top a version of himself as Argento was of himself in the original. (I have to admit, I'd love to see what an ultra-trashy, ultra-gothic Terrence Malick film would look like.)

Worst case scenario: The remake's aim is to make the plot more coherent and make us care more for the characters. Set to Marilyn Manson covers of 80s hits.

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#1829 Post by bainbridgezu » Wed May 16, 2012 8:49 pm

Mr Sausage wrote:So is DGG trying to redo the look of Suspiria (an inherently losing battle) or does he just want to make a movie about ballerinas and witches?
No ballerinas:
My version of Suspiria doesn’t have anything to do with ballet at all; it’s an all girls’ boarding school that doesn’t have the dance element.
zedz wrote:Worst case scenario: The remake's aim is to make the plot more coherent and make us care more for the characters. Set to Marilyn Manson covers of 80s hits.
Re-working of the plot and characters may not be a problem: Green's stated desire to make the 'fairy tale' version of the film while forgoing psychology makes me think that he understands the plot of Suspiria need be nothing more than a skeleton on which to hang the (hopefully magnificent) set-pieces, while the cast/characters need only to lead us around the environment (and die in horrible ways).

Speaking of which, Green has also said that he plans not to "soften" the violence--a noble intention, but best of luck to him: Argento wanted to make the original film with children around the age Green is using, but the producers wouldn't allow it (and he was dealing with his own family!).

As for the score, it sounds like we won't be hearing Goblin's original, but that it will be drawn upon extensively:
I want it to evolve. I want to start it at exactly that same place, and take that symphony of synthesizers and evolve it to the opera version. [...] I love the idea of getting someone like John Adams to come and compose the symphony version of it for the ending, something that’s out of left field but is truly just a blossom of the seeds that Goblin planted.

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Re: New Films in Production

#1830 Post by The Fanciful Norwegian » Thu May 17, 2012 6:26 am

A couple of tidbits on Godard's Goodbye to Language 3D (yes, the "3D" is part of the title, at least for now):
Switzerland-based Godard's first foray into 3D, the film explores cinema's search to reinvent itself with the language of 3D through a couple's efforts to communicate to save their relationship.

The production featuring Heloise Godet, Zoe Bruneau, Kamel Abdelli, Richard Chevallier and Jessica Erickson in the cast is shooting this summer.

[Wild Bunch head Vincent] Maraval reveals that Godard has created his own rudimentary 3D camera for the shoot out of two mobile phones fitted with lenses.
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Re: New Films in Production

#1831 Post by domino harvey » Thu May 17, 2012 6:43 am

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Re: New Films in Production

#1832 Post by mfunk9786 » Thu May 17, 2012 8:32 am

Sort of like when my senile grandfather accidentally wears two hats

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#1833 Post by Matt » Thu May 17, 2012 3:19 pm

I'm fine with a Suspiria remake that removes the ballet element. It was completely inessential to the plot anyway.

As illustrated to your left, my partner and I were talking about this film over dinner last night, trying to think of who today is a visual stylist in the manner of Argento a few decades ago. We couldn't think of any competent, currently-working director who makes these kind of slickly beautiful, candy-colored films anymore. Except Wong Kar-Wai, and even then, it's been a long time since he's made anything watchable. But can you imagine a late-'90s-era Wong Kar-Wai remake of Suspiria?!? I'd also love to see a Lucretia Martel remake of the film, but that's just perversity talking.

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Re: New Films in Production

#1834 Post by knives » Thu May 17, 2012 3:22 pm

Too bad Kon had to die since he would have done something weird with this (though I suppose Perfect Blue already counts).

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#1835 Post by ianungstad » Thu May 17, 2012 4:23 pm

In the Cannes market it was announced that Antonio Banderas and Gwyneth Paltrow will be starring in the new Carlos Saura film. Not really a director I would associate with Hollywood.

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#1836 Post by zedz » Thu May 17, 2012 5:33 pm

Matt wrote:As illustrated to your left, my partner and I were talking about this film over dinner last night, trying to think of who today is a visual stylist in the manner of Argento a few decades ago. We couldn't think of any competent, currently-working director who makes these kind of slickly beautiful, candy-colored films anymore. Except Wong Kar-Wai, and even then, it's been a long time since he's made anything watchable. But can you imagine a late-'90s-era Wong Kar-Wai remake of Suspiria?!? I'd also love to see a Lucretia Martel remake of the film, but that's just perversity talking.
An interesting mental exercise. I'd go for a distinctive visual stylist who could take the material in another direction (e.g. Claire Denis). My pick would be a genre-savvy director who can pull dazzling, unexpected visual coups out of his hat (and who will never let narrative coherence get in the way of a good shot): Sogo Ishii.

Footnote: If you want to see Argento out-Argentoed, try Amer - that seemed to be the film's entire raison d'etre. Didn't exactly work for the length of an entire film, but it's definitely a curio worth seeing once.

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#1837 Post by Mr Sausage » Thu May 17, 2012 6:08 pm

Matt wrote:As illustrated to your left, my partner and I were talking about this film over dinner last night, trying to think of who today is a visual stylist in the manner of Argento a few decades ago. We couldn't think of any competent, currently-working director who makes these kind of slickly beautiful, candy-colored films anymore.
I immediately thought of David Lynch, at least in terms of visual style. But of course his last film was a real departure, visually, and Suspiria is hardly the kind of thing you'd find him doing (his talents would be under utilized as well). But in terms of putting out a lush, brightly-coloured, slick visual experience, Lynch can do it effortlessly.

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#1838 Post by knives » Thu May 17, 2012 6:25 pm

I thought Lynch too, but his use of narrative is so radically different that I don't think it would work. De Palma might if they could get him to give a damn.

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#1839 Post by colinr0380 » Thu May 17, 2012 6:52 pm

Or if you want a kind of Suspiria remake then Lucile Hadzihalilovic's Innocence might fit the bill.

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Re: New Films in Production

#1840 Post by Matt » Fri May 18, 2012 11:50 am

Yep, Zedz, I also thought of Claire Denis. Béatrice Dalle would be great as Helena Marcos, and if it could have been made before her passing, Yekaterina Golubeva as Miss Tanner.
colinr0380 wrote:Or if you want a kind of Suspiria remake then Lucile Hadzihalilovic's Innocence might fit the bill.
It ain't bad, not quite delirious enough to be kin to Suspiria, though.

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Re: New Films in Production

#1841 Post by Murdoch » Wed May 23, 2012 7:07 pm

Another attempt at Confederacy of Dunces is under way. This book seems to be the new Don Quixote of cinematic cursed projects (rather fitting actually)

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Re: New Films in Production

#1843 Post by domino harvey » Thu May 24, 2012 5:09 pm

Amazing

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Re: New Films in Production

#1844 Post by stroszeck » Fri May 25, 2012 1:19 am

What a cheapskate. Surely a billionaire could provide us with both an In the Army Now sequel and Biodome/Encino Man prequels.

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Re: New Films in Production

#1845 Post by The Fanciful Norwegian » Fri May 25, 2012 10:19 am

Variety reports (behind a paywall, though you can read it in the source code or by tilting your monitor a bit) that the U.S. rights to Godard's Goodbye to Language 3D have been presold to...Fox?!

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Re: New Films in Production

#1846 Post by bdsweeney » Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:46 am

Found this floating around at various places around the net:
The topic of a Before Sunset follow-up popped up while Hawke talked up his latest project, The Woman in the Fifth, with Indiewire. “We’re also doing a follow-up to Before Sunrise and Before Sunset, so that will be fun,” he revealed while discussing future collaborations with Linklater. “We’re going to shoot that this summer.”

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Re: New Films in Production

#1847 Post by mfunk9786 » Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:51 am

I love the 7 Up-ish approach to these films. Linklater is still doing quietly solid work, and I'm not sure when, if ever, he'll be considered a major director [again?]

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#1848 Post by zedz » Thu Jun 14, 2012 4:51 pm

I'd much rather have Linklater continuing to do his thing on the margins than become a major director (in the Hollywood sense) and never make another 'Linklater film.' Some more industry / awards recognition would certainly be nice, however.

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Re: New Films in Production

#1849 Post by domino harvey » Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:02 pm

To the surprise of no one, Mathieu Amalric has signed on for Desplechin's next film, along with Benicio del Toro!

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Re: New Films in Production

#1850 Post by Brian C » Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:26 pm

I'm surprised that Desplechin has a next film! It's about time.

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