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Re: Italian DVDs With Italian Subs

#76 Post by rohmerin » Sat Jan 08, 2011 3:29 pm

Sorry, the only information I've found on the net is that Cinemateca di Cuba has got a print of Dora la espía.

Empezó la boda has got a famous casting, but it's not available on DVD, TV, DIVX, rien de rien. May be in Filmoteca nacional they can tell you something. Write to them, you are not Spaniard, so I guess, they'll reply (or not, this is Spanistan). Opps, they application form on the web doesn't work. May be they have fired funcionarios or the money has been transferred to a Caribbean tax free island.

Portada de la Filmoteca Española
Contacte con Cine y Audiovisuales

De Dora, la espía, dice Felipe Cabrerizo en "Tiempo de mitos" que no se estrenó en Italia y que en Madrid sólo estuvo dos semanas en cartel a pesar de la fuerte inversión publicitaria en su lanzamiento y del plus de la reaparición de la Bertini. La SAFE, su productora española, quebró a finales de 1943, coincidiendo con la desbandada fascista en Italia.

My source has asked to Cabrerizo, who couldn't find any prints in Madrid, Milano and Roma cinetecas.

"Una mujer entre los brazos" se estrenó en el Calderón en 1945.

La antecrítica en el ABC:
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La crítica:
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Niro también en la hemeroteca del ABC, que suele mencionar la programación televisiva y no encuentro nada.

La traducción se editó en aquella colección de teatro de Escelicer en 956.
MATARAZZO, Rafael
Una mujer entre los brazos
Madrid, Escelicer, 1956.

Mi problema es que no sé dónde buscar esto. Otras veces, el rastreo en la hemeroteca virtual del ABC y La Vanguardia ha dado resultado. He buscado por el título de la adaptación de la obra al castellano y por la traducción del original (la aventurera del piso de arriba o la aventurera del piso superior), y he encontrado poco más que los dos enlaces que te he enviado y un pase en la Filmoteca en 1986 de la película protagonizada por Vittorio de Sica.

Ni el imdb ni la base de datos de películas estrenadas en España del Ministerio de Cultura mencionan otra adaptación.

He estudiado bastante a fondo -no hoy, sino en general- la filmografía de los hermanos de la Torre (Claudio y Josefina), pero casi todo su trabajo se centra en los años cuarenta. La biografía de Claudio de la Torre (la de Juan Manuel Reverón Alfonso), cita la obra como algo que hubieran hecho juntos para el teatro. Hay un catálogo (bastante pobre) sobre Josefina de la Torre, editado con acasión de una exposición en la Residencia de Estudiantes y tampoco cita esta obra y, menos aún, una adaptación televisiva.

Lo siguiente sería rastrear toda la revista Telerradio de 1963, pero yo no tengo acceso fácil a la misma. A lo mejor podría sonar la flauta con una consulta por correo electrónico al Servicio de Documentación de TVE, aunque lo dudo.

Si tienes alguna otra pista... ¿El libro italiano? ¿La fuente de la información, si es que la cita el autor?

El libro de "Il Castoro" sobre Matarazzo (Angela Prudenzi, 1990) lo tienen en la biblioteca de la Filmoteca pero para mí es muy difícil ir allí durante los próximos tres meses. Si tengo ocasión de pasar, lo miro. Pero supongo que tu corresponsal ya estará al cabo de la calle por ese camino.
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Re: Italian DVDs With Italian Subs

#77 Post by Saimo » Sun Jan 09, 2011 5:25 am

Thank you.

edit.
Thank you very much!
Yes, Dora was also screened for two weeks in Barcelona. Working on a short essay about Matarazzo's Spanish years (he shot two films and wrote a play) I had already found this piece on La Vanguardia Espanola (24.2.1944):
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The play Matarazzo wrote in Spain, inspired to L'avventuriera del piano di sopra, was called Una mujer entre los brazos and performed in Madrid (november 1945) and Barcelona (february 1946). Translation by Josefina de la Torre and Alberto Alar. According to an Italian book, it was later filmed, always in Spain, in 1963, but no one can name this film version... Maybe it was a television production?

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Re: Classic Italian Cinema (non R1, English-friendly)

#78 Post by marnum » Sun Feb 06, 2011 7:06 am

TMDaines wrote:RHV: 1860, --- Quattro passi fra le nuvole
I can’t find these two anywhere. Are they out of print by any chance?

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Re: Classic Italian Cinema (non R1, English-friendly)

#79 Post by Saimo » Sun Feb 06, 2011 8:01 am

RHV is changing distribution partnership, so perhaps some titles will be unavailable for a while (two months?).
You can buy 1860 and Quattro passi from Amazon.com, where RHV has his own marketplace.

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Re: Italian DVDs With Italian Subs

#80 Post by Saimo » Sun Feb 06, 2011 8:21 am

Book: Raffaello Matarazzo. Materiali, vol. I, Movie Club, Torino, 1976.
Filmography enlists two "remakes": Buonanotte, avvocato (Giorgio Bianchi, 1955) and a later one, in Spain (1963). I wrote a short essay (1600 words) about adaptation and remakes for RHV L'avventuriera coming soon DVD booklet, and I had already found the ABC articles, but still I couldn't name the Spanish 1963 remake. Was the filmography wrong?!
(I have the 1956 book with Spanish translation.)

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Re: Italian DVDs With Italian Subs

#81 Post by rohmerin » Thu Feb 10, 2011 10:18 am

My source has asked to Filmoteca Nacional. Let's wait.

Some Liliana Cavani films are released by Medusa. I cannibali

Al di la del bene e del male (excellent film about Niescthe with explicit gay cruising) was announced but not released. Why?
Franco Brusati's masterpiece Dimenticare Venezia is at my place, from Medussa too.

Saimo, Has you ever been able to wath de Santi's Una strada lunga and Le garçoniere?
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Re: Italian DVDs With Italian Subs

#82 Post by Hail_Cesar » Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:14 am

Raro video escono Il conformista e Chi lavora è perduto da Tinto Brass. Non lo so per Chi lavora ma Il conformista esce in ottobre...

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Re: Italian DVDs With Italian Subs

#83 Post by Saimo » Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:38 am

Yes, Il conformista is scheduled for October 19 (both DVD and BR). It will feature an exclusive one-hour making of.

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Re: Italian DVDs With Italian Subs

#84 Post by MichaelB » Wed Aug 24, 2011 9:08 am

Arrow seems to be preparing its own edition of The Conformist for roughly the same time (they haven't named an actual date, but they've said "autumn" in the past). Presumably it's coming from the same master.

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Re: Italian DVDs With Italian Subs

#85 Post by rohmerin » Mon Feb 06, 2012 6:44 am

Monicelli's impressive masterpiece (another one) Caro Michelle finally getsa DVD release + book. I don't know if "book" means novel or if it is an essay.

I highly recommend Cineteca di Bologna 2 books about Italian cinema told by their protagonist. This is THE Bible for us, the Italian film buffs, L'avventurosa storia del cinema italiano. There will be 3 other books: Volume 1 & Volume 2.

Saimo, what's wrong with Blasetti on DVD ? is RHV going to do anything?

Let's remember that Ben Gazzara has got a very good role in Monicelli's commedia all'italiana Risate di Gioia with Anna Magnani, Totò and the beutiful Rome in New Year's eve. Of course, it's another Monicelli's masterpiece, loved by Spanish critic Miguel Marías (brother of the famous Javier Marias) among others.

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Re: Italian DVDs With Italian Subs

#86 Post by Saimo » Mon Feb 06, 2012 12:13 pm

rohmerin wrote:Saimo, what's wrong with Blasetti on DVD ? is RHV going to do anything?
RHV has released 12 DVDs, but I don't know how soon they will publish other films...

Released
Terra Madre
Resurrectio
La Tavola Dei Poveri
Palio
Nessuno Torna Indietro
Retroscena
Contessa di Parma
Un'avventura di Salvator Rosa
1860
4 passi fra le nuvole
Petrolineide
Altri tempi
(out of print?)

Yet to be released
La cena delle beffe
Assisi
Aldebaran
L'impiegata di papà

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Re: Italian DVDs With Italian Subs

#87 Post by Hail_Cesar » Mon Feb 06, 2012 12:42 pm

For Straub/Huillet and Pedro Costa Fans I highly recommend this.

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Re: Classic Italian Cinema (non R1, English-friendly)

#88 Post by Saimo » Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:16 pm

Il sapore del grano (The Taste of Wheat), screened at Venice 1986, is an independent, little seen film with a subtle gay subtext. A very unusual work by Gianni De Campo, who describes his film as a "Death in Venice in reverse". I am not sure how much I liked it, but it surely has its moments (including a special appearance by Marina Vlady), and the camera work reminded me of Ermanno Olmi's early works.
Lorenzo, a handsome first-year professor in an isolated Italian village, falls under the spell of his most beguiling pupil, a dark-haired, starry-eyed 12-year-old named Duilio. As Lorenzo's relationship with his heartless girlfriend deteriorates, he finds himself walking the fields with his loving student. When their idyllic friendship is questioned by Duilio's suspicious stepmother, Lorenzo is brought to a crisis of conscience.

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Re: Italian DVDs With Italian Subs

#89 Post by ellipsis7 » Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:36 am

TMDaines wrote:
otis wrote:Cristaldi Film do a lot of Italian classics in generally good-looking editions, occasionally with English subtitles.

Riso Amaro
I can certainly vouch for that. I've just finished watching a Cristaldi Film edition of Riso Amaro from my university library. The quality of the DVD as a whole is fantastic and it wouldn't look out of place in any top collection. I've never seen a film of this age look so fantastic on DVD as the restoration has done wonders to the picture, leaving it looking incredibly sharp and clear. The english subtitles are very accurate and grammatically correct (although I noticed three typos throughout the film), although they aren't available on the numerous extras unfortunately.
I can second this, there's even a DD5.1 remix of the soundtrack as an alternative to the original mono which is also available... Overall a really superb quality release well worth picking up (especially as the New Year 2011 'clue' from Criterion seems to have turned out as SUMMER WITH MONIKA rather than RISO AMARO/BITTER RICE)...

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Re: Italian DVDs With Italian Subs

#90 Post by Knappen » Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:23 pm

Saimo wrote:Yet to be released
Assisi
This 12 minute documentary is on the Palio DVD. No subs, but stunning video quality.

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Re: Italian DVDs With Italian Subs

#91 Post by rohmerin » Wed Feb 29, 2012 2:20 pm

My Blasetti request was La corona di ferro. What's wrong with its releases? And with Bolognini's La notte brava

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Re: Italian DVDs With Italian Subs

#92 Post by Saimo » Wed Feb 29, 2012 7:09 pm

La notte brava was released by NoShame, but now the disc is out of print.

La corona di ferro was released by KLF many years ago, but the master was awful, I wonder if that was an official release or simply a bootleg from VHS... I don't know if RHV is going to re-release this (even if at RHV office there is a HUGE poster of the film, so they certainly love it).
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Re: Italian DVDs With Italian Subs

#93 Post by rohmerin » Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:31 am

Grazie.
Something is wrong with many Dino de Laurentiis' films. For example, Le streghe that has been released on a poor DVD in Spain; or the Antonioni film with Princess Soraya (that is bad, BTW) or La mia signora (that's excellent). Is there any conflict with the rights?

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Re: Italian DVDs With Italian Subs

#94 Post by ellipsis7 » Thu Mar 01, 2012 9:26 am

I wasn't aware TRE VOLTI (IL PROVINO episode) - 'the Antonioni film with Princess Soraya' - was available on DVD anywhere... I'd be interested to know where it might be sourced on a home video format...

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Re: Italian DVDs With Italian Subs

#95 Post by rohmerin » Fri Mar 02, 2012 6:18 am

Tre volti, I saw a dowloaded print from an Italian television. The film is very, very bad. I saw Le sorelle Materassi last night. Very interesting 1943 film, far away from Mussolini's comedies.

I want a release of Noi vivi, adaptation of Ayn ne Rand's anti-communist novel We the living. I own the American 3 hours cut and it's amazing, but the Italian runs one hour more.

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Re: Italian DVDs With Italian Subs

#96 Post by Saimo » Fri Mar 02, 2012 6:27 am

rohmerin wrote:I saw Le sorelle Materassi last night. Very interesting 1943 film, far away from Mussolini's comedies.
By Ferdinando Maria Poggioli (1897-1945), a fine director.
His best works (not on DVD...): Addio Giovinezza, Sissignora, Il cappello da prete.

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Re: Classic Italian Cinema (non R1, English-friendly)

#97 Post by scotty2 » Sat Mar 17, 2012 3:25 pm

Looking for some advice: I am teaching US students in Italy this summer and really want to show them Paisa. I likely will not have a region-free player (I'm checking with the tour company but am not holding my breath). So the issue is that we need to see the film in Region 2 with English subtitles, and I think the DVD marketplace is bereft from what I can tell. The newer blu ray seems to have Italian subtitles only. What about VHS? Anyone with insight on this? Even if I find something, I'm sure the quality would be very poor. But I would rather have them see a poor version of it than drop it entirely. How I wish I could just take my Criterion with me.

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Re: Classic Italian Cinema (non R1, English-friendly)

#98 Post by matrixschmatrix » Sat Mar 17, 2012 3:30 pm

Can you just bring a laptop? Changing regions is easy enough, and a lot of modern laptops have HDMI ports.

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Re: Classic Italian Cinema (non R1, English-friendly)

#99 Post by TMDaines » Sat Mar 17, 2012 6:46 pm

Just make an avi or mkv rip of your DVD with Handbrake or something. Why do anything else when you own the thing anyway?

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Re: Classic Italian Cinema (non R1, English-friendly)

#100 Post by scotty2 » Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:59 pm

Thanks for the advice. It actually isn't my responsibility to provide the film (though I often do in my classes here) which is why I wanted to verify that there are no Region 2/Region B English subtitled editions for Paisa. But if I could create a rip to a file from the Criterion, carry that over on a flash drive, and run it from their PC (assuming that's what they have linked to a projector), that would work? I'm not sure my 2007 Macbook will have the adaptability to plug in over there (no HDMI port), but I'll check on this. PMs welcome--don't mean to derail the thread.

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