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#226 Post by akaten » Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:11 am

Going back a bit to a previous film Call Northside 77 as I think some are passing it off without considering some of its merits, the shot of Jimmy Stewart silouette creeping to the door being bathed in light from an opened flat just of screen, to those I've superimposed onto the film for myself.

Didn't anyone think the first five minutes were in a league of their own, as if they came from another, far better film? Try watching it again, maybe pretent you've just discovered Henry Hathaway et al inserted library footage from a lost reel to a previously unknown Jean Pierre Melville film, your enjoyment of the sequences will increase tenfold.

Then there's the prison location for the other suspect, Hathaway lacks peripheral vision beyond the scene at hand he needs to get through, to make ANY use of it beyond a rudimentary pan right, then left along the same route and back out into the flat plains dullsville that mar the film as soon as possible.

Yet the location is endlessly fascinating, seemingly a prison whereupon the cells were arranged in an enclosed circle, several stories high around a large pit is not only awe-inspiring in its construction, but deeply disturbing. It looks very much like a modern construction of a Roman Colosseum - are the inmates required to fight one another in order to survive for the guards amusement? It's a crying shame that Jules Dassin never knew about it, would've been an ideal setting for Brute Force, who may well have been able to draw upon it and other US adoptions of Roman Architecture in its nation building to further sharpen his critique at the state of the nation and need of those below to try, but inevitably fail to overthrow.

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#227 Post by HerrSchreck » Sat Jul 12, 2008 11:49 am

I've always liked Northside 777. It's got a droll quietness hanging over it like a cloud infecting everyones performance which is a perfect match for the true story and the all-(actual)-location shooting-- it sort of caaptures the workaday boredom and cynicism of Stewarts character heading out onto what he believes is a bum assignment at first. It has more the feel of an actuality than the hyperreality of a noir, which suits the material perfectly. The doldrums of a man going thru his daily grind... until he realises he's onto something... Iwatch this film at least once a year.

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#228 Post by Si Parallel Universe » Sun Jul 13, 2008 12:49 am

Its the archetypal Stewart role though wouldn't you say ? Bearing in mind it is based on true events it sits comfortably with the perceived Stewart vehicle in his fictional roles.

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#229 Post by souvenir » Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:04 am

Si Parallel Universe wrote:Its the archetypal Stewart role though wouldn't you say ? Bearing in mind it is based on true events it sits comfortably with the perceived Stewart vehicle in his fictional roles.
Sorry, what's the definition of the archetypal Stewart role again? Is it the guy from the Capra films, or the one from the Hitchcock movies, or maybe the Mann westerns? I just don't see Stewart as having an "archetypal" role. He's as diverse, if not more so, as any movie star of the era.

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#230 Post by Si Parallel Universe » Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:47 am

souvenir wrote:Sorry, what's the definition of the archetypal Stewart role again? Is it the guy from the Capra films, or the one from the Hitchcock movies, or maybe the Mann westerns? I just don't see Stewart as having an "archetypal" role. He's as diverse, if not more so, as any movie star of the era.

The drive of his character roles is a constant I find. Deterministic , but thats just my perception. I'm in no way suggesting that James Stewart is limited in his acting ability, far from it. Does that make more sense ?

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#231 Post by souvenir » Sun Jul 13, 2008 2:26 am

Si Parallel Universe wrote:The drive of his character roles is a constant I find. Deterministic , but thats just my perception. I'm in no way suggesting that James Stewart is limited in his acting ability, far from it. Does that make more sense ?
I see and would agree with you. There's definitely a drive present in most of Stewart's dramatic characters. He's frequently on some tacit mission, but with a nagging handicap that serves as a terrific setback.

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#232 Post by Belmondo » Sun Jul 13, 2008 3:35 pm

re - James Stewart. I always wondered if his archetypal diversity was a result of his experience in World War II. Once he resumed his career after the war ended, his acting style and choice of roles hardened and we get a screen personality that probably mirrored the lost youth of all who served. Easy to see this in a noir, but, even a movie set in a previous time, like the Mann westerns, viewers would know that the delightful young man in "The Philadelphia Story" was gone and someone who reflected their own experiences during the war - even if they merely lived through it - was up there on the screen.

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#233 Post by Si Parallel Universe » Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:54 pm

Looking at the updated artwork and disc details on Classicflix.com: Look At the Fox Noir Trailers on The Discs. Is showing among the Fox Noir trailers on the discs for Road House and for Moontide is the title Inferno.

Also looking on amazon that Road House and Moontide are up for pre-order but no sign of Boomerang! .

Should we take this as a sign that we are unlikely to see Boomrang! on September 2nd ?

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#234 Post by Ashirg » Thu Jul 17, 2008 12:03 am

When a release was listing at one time at Amazon and then gets pulled, it takes a bit longer to get re-listed. Not sure why, but it happened before.

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#235 Post by knepo » Thu Jul 24, 2008 5:12 pm

just found this link on dvdbeaver

boomerang is back! But it seems like only amazon.ca got it. it's getting released September 2, you can pre-order it.

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#236 Post by Florinaldo » Fri Aug 01, 2008 7:36 am

Amazon.ca seems to have wised up to the fact they are the only one listing Boomerang at this point.

It was at just under 12$ when I pre-ordered my copy 2 weeks ago, but now it's been jacked up to 16$, while the other two upcoming Fox Noir titles are still at the old price.

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#237 Post by Caligula » Sat Aug 16, 2008 8:29 am

Boomerang is also available for pre-order at DVD Pacific for 8.97 USD

DVD Pacific despatched my copy of Boomerang today.

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#238 Post by filmnoir1 » Sat Aug 16, 2008 3:56 pm

Barrie Maxwell is indicating in his newest roundup of classic dvds on digital bits that the September release of Boomerang will not happen in the US and will instead be replaced by another title, Inferno (1953). Once again Fox teases but does not deliver. However, it is okay because I already have a copy of Boomerang.

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#239 Post by AfterTheRain » Sat Aug 16, 2008 4:42 pm

filmnoir1 wrote:Barrie Maxwell is indicating in his newest roundup of classic dvds on digital bits that the September release of Boomerang will not happen in the US and will instead be replaced by another title, Inferno (1953). Once again Fox teases but does not deliver. However, it is okay because I already have a copy of Boomerang.
Uh, not to get on your case, but did you read the entire bit? It says it MAY not happen and we'll have to wait and see if it's true or not.

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#240 Post by Si Parallel Universe » Sat Aug 23, 2008 9:15 am

Well, as September 2nd is a week on tuesday , we will find out soon enough eh ? :)

The AR in me wonders if the spine number will still be the same :shock:

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#241 Post by Cash Flagg » Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:56 am

Si Parallel Universe wrote:The AR in me wonders if the spine number will still be the same
Fox have stopped using spine numbers with the latest wave.

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#242 Post by filmnoir1 » Sun Aug 24, 2008 7:30 pm

Does anyone know why there are no longer using spine numbers for the collection? Could it be because they originally stated that there were only going to be 24 discs in the collection?

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#243 Post by Si Parallel Universe » Mon Aug 25, 2008 2:21 pm

filmnoir1 wrote:Does anyone know why there are no longer using spine numbers for the collection? Could it be because they originally stated that there were only going to be 24 discs in the collection?

That would be my guess. But the AR in me is glad I got 1-24 with spine numbers including boomerang.

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#244 Post by stephan73 » Wed Aug 27, 2008 1:00 am

Boomerang just shipped from DVDplanet!

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#245 Post by zone_resident » Wed Aug 27, 2008 9:42 am

Beaver reviews:
Road House
Moontide
Boomerang

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#246 Post by Florinaldo » Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:29 am

I just received my copy of Boomerang from amazon.ca. It's an exact duplicate of the initial release, including the packaging, which means it's the original layout, with the spine number. Even the copyright is 2006. Fox probably warehoused these after the recall, in expectation of the rights issues being resolved.

The other two new Fox Film Noir issues conform to the new packaging, which means no spine number and no insert booklet.

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#247 Post by dx23 » Thu Sep 04, 2008 9:54 pm

Costco has Boomerang for $8.49.

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#248 Post by htdm » Fri Sep 05, 2008 12:11 am

Were the other two noir titles available there, too?

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#249 Post by AfterTheRain » Fri Sep 05, 2008 2:15 am

htdm wrote:Were the other two noir titles available there, too?
Yeah, Moontide (1942) and Road House (1948).

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#250 Post by HerrSchreck » Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:44 am

RoadHouse is an absolute blast... nice to see Widmark in this period in a more restrained character portrayal, despite the fact that he lets loose at the end with all the Udo signatures... wacko giggle, snide sneer, etc. The film itself is a refreshing variation on these dark melodramas that Fox was pumping out in this period-- some use the term "Log Cabin Noir" which I'm not sure is appropriate, but at least describes what a bit of a departure the film is from the urban scenarios they specialized in at this time.

And Lupino's musical pefromances are amazing curiosities, considering that she couldnt really "sing", yet there she is, truly singing (and making it work). One of her songs actually went to the top of the pop charts at the time! And her part is a dream part for any actress in any time period.

I havent gotten to Moontide yet, but Boomerang, which I hadnt seen, was decent at best. Glad I own it, but is a flawed narrative composition.

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