Clever thing you. Now if you really want to be of service, get me a dvd copy of this filmneal wrote:That's 1/15 of the alloted time, actually.
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I do see it listed as 107 minutes at the TCM site... Maybe it was only added after the fact, but it could have helped checking (but if it was misprinted elsewhere, it really is no fault of your own. Was there any indication that these was gonna be a longer cut beforehand?). I'm not saying it doesn't suck, but I'm telling you, it has nothing to do with a conspiracy on making people pay with the DVD, since as far as I can tell these films have no sign of being on DVD soon. It was a dumb mistake on posting the wrong time.Wittsdream wrote:CB, the only running times listed on ANY site (TCM, IMDB, Senses of Cinema) were either 98 minutes or 103 minutes. The cut presented last night was the longest cut I have ever seen for Powell's film: 107 minutes. When coupled with the opening intro with Osborne and Schoonmaker, the total program running time approached 112 minutes, not the 105 minutes that the cable provider carved out. That's a 7 minute discrepancy (not a fraction by any means).
Someone keeps dropping the ball on these "rare" presentations, and I am more than a little convinced that it is motivated by commerce, and nothing else.
Preminger's "Skidoo," Fuller's "Park Row" and Tourneur's "Nightfall" are slated for the January TCM schedule. None of them is available on DVD anywhere in the world. I'll heed your advice this time around and record 6 films just to get the 3 that I really want, then find a way to patch the overlaps together with Final Cut Pro. Is this 2007?
These are the hoops that TCM is asking us to go through if we want to retain a personal copy of their presentation. I thought the entire point of placing their logo on the lower right third of the screen at half hour intervals was to prevent illegal copying?
I spend $100 a month on cable bill so that I have the RIGHT to watch and RECORD anything I want for my own personal enjoyment. Has something changed since 1978?
Very despondent that I do not have a copy of this rare Powell film to show to my friends over the holidays.
That is exactly what happened! Some nifty little stage hand at that place very deceptively changed the running time afterwards. In fact, the engineer spinning the dials last night probably said something like, "damn, this film IS longer than 103 minutes."Cold Bishop wrote:I do see it listed as 107 minutes at the TCM site... Maybe it was only added after the fact
I'm sure they will, but I'm not convinced its soon enough to warrant any kind of accusation they are trying to force you to buy there DVDs. Not to mention TCM was the channel showing Seven Men From Now the weekend before it made its DVD premier (maybe the weekend after, but same idea), and that surely isn't the only time.Wittsdream wrote:Cold Bishop wrote:That is exactly what happened! Some nifty little stage hand at that place very deceptively changed the running time afterwards. In fact, the engineer spinning the dials last night probably said something like, "damn, this film IS longer than 103 minutes."I do see it listed as 107 minutes at the TCM site... Maybe it was only added after the fact
I'm already in contact with some people who apparently made a copy of the film last night from their computer hard drive.
Anyhoo, based on some of Schoonmaker's comments last night and the very evident restoration job done in presenting a director's cut of the film, I am confident that Sony will be issuing this film in one of its markets (R1 or R2) very soon.
I'm confused as to what you mean. It was never alleged that TCM is forcing anyone to buy their DVDs. I would love the opportunity to buy EVERYTHING TCM offers over the air on DVD. In fact, if TCM were to announce (as they often do) that a DVD release of a broadcast of theirs is imminent, having a copy of it on DVD-R would not preclude an upgrade for the official DVD release. It never has! Typically, you can read between the lines: Janus logo preceding the film = eventual Criterion release, etc.Cold Bishop wrote:I'm sure they will, but I'm not convinced its soon enough to warrant any kind of accusation they are trying to force you to buy there DVDs.
I wish. I've not had the opportunity to see of Powell's Australian films. Though, if I get my hands on them, I'll certainly pass that info along.Wittsdream wrote:Clever thing you. Now if you really want to be of service, get me a dvd copy of this filmneal wrote:That's 1/15 of the alloted time, actually..
Wittsdream wrote:I'm confused as to what you mean. It was never alleged that TCM is forcing anyone to buy their DVDs. I would love the opportunity to buy EVERYTHING TCM offers over the air on DVD. In fact, if TCM were to announce (as they often do) that a DVD release of a broadcast of theirs is imminent, having a copy of it on DVD-R would not preclude an upgrade for the official DVD release. It never has! Typically, you can read between the lines: Janus logo preceding the film = eventual Criterion release, etc.
Maybe you're misconstruing by what I mean by theirs, but that statement of yours surely implicates that TCM and the studios are doing this on purpose.Wittsdream wrote:I guess it's all about forcing you to buy the eventual dvd because you missed the critical final moments of these films. A$$holes!!
Could you please do so in this thread? Perhaps in spoiler tags:tryavna wrote:I watched it all last night and would be happy to fill anybody in on the final five minutes, if they wish.
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Sure thing:Matt wrote:Could you please do so in this thread? Perhaps in spoiler tags
I received an e-mail response from the staff at TCM this morning about "Age of Consent" and they were apologetic about the running time goof "on their part" and plan on re-broadcasting the film this coming April.Thanks. I have the film (minus the last few minutes) sitting on my TiVo waiting for me to decide to watch it, knowing I won't see the end of it, or to just delete it and hope for a DVD or a re-airing.
You're welcome. Somebody did the same for me on another message board when I missed the last few minutes of These Are the Damned and so I got to see a damned good movie as a result (no pun intended). I wonder if TCM are going to reschedule that one, by the way. I still want to see those few minutes, which sound like they're shattering. (Even with only a vague sense of those final few minutes, I still count it as one of my five favorite Loseys and one of my all-time favorite sci-fis now.)Matt wrote:Thanks. I have the film (minus the last few minutes) sitting on my TiVo waiting for me to decide to watch it, knowing I won't see the end of it, or to just delete it and hope for a DVD or a re-airing. With your summary of the ending, the decision is easier.
We will try to put it in the schedule in a few months. This was a restored version that wasn't ready until the last moment. Every source (including the earlier version that we played several years ago) had the runtime at around 100 mins., but this came to us a couple of days before the airing at around 107 mins.
Sorry, my fault. They played a pan-and-scan version of The Tall Stranger yesterday that was so outrageously horrible that I had to go down there and blow up their building. Sorry for any inconvenience.Matt wrote:Is anyone currently unable to get a cable signal from TCM? It's been out here for two days now. Fortunately, I have a backlog of about a dozen TCM films on my TiVo to make up for it.
That was completely unwatchable. For those who haven't heard or witnessed my righteous indignation in the Preminger thread, they played Skidoo in pan-and-scan too.fiddlesticks wrote:Sorry, my fault. They played a pan-and-scan version of The Tall Stranger yesterday that was so outrageously horrible that I had to go down there and blow up their building. Sorry for any inconvenience.
I'm chagrined by the devolution of the Essentials hosts:SheriffAmbrose wrote:I read in the New York Post this morning that Rose McGowan will begin co-hosting The Essentials with Osborne beginning March eighth. An odd choice. I only wish this had happened before she so majorly messed up her face.