Criterion and Paramount
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I don't know if it speaks to a possible DVD release by Criterion or Paramount, but the "new" 35mm print of White Dog shown at Film Forum was pretty spectacular looking. What a strange film though and I can't understand how anyone could classify it as racist after watching it. Studios can be quite cowardly sometimes.
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I disagree, Schreck. The Paramount release of The Conformist is basically a straight transfer from video to DVD...it had no evidence of being recently restored as was indeed performed recently. Criterion's version of La Commare Secca was a beautiful transfer and this film is a lot older than The Conformist (and less popular)...it is a shame that La Commare Secca looks a lot better than Paramount's release of The Conformist which deserves a re-do...
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- pro-bassoonist
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Says Who???Mental Mike wrote:The Paramount release of The Conformist is basically a straight transfer from video to DVD...
I can put you in touch with a direct industry source that will have the pleasure of providing you with quite a different piece of info.
The disc is of top-notch quality and it also happens to be the best available version on the market.
Ciao,
Pro-B
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Some dude at HTF wrote:I can't say too much except that an annoucement on Ace in the Hole/The Big Carnival, similar to the one regarding If..., should be forthcoming...
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Mental Mike, don't be throwing around stuff like that on this most educated of forums. I'm surprised you haven't gotten a lashing from Schreck or David yet. The new conformist is most certainly not from a video source, unless paramount spent all the time they should have been producing excellent dvds on building a time machine to go check out a video format in the next century and bring it back for their transfers.I'm a fan of a lot of things paramount has been doing, especially the fact that more and more of their releases are missing the massive banner that used to go out on each and every one.
- Jeff
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So far, the titles that we know for sure (Robinson Crusoe on Mars, If..., Ace in the Hole) and the titles that we suspect (White Dog, Face to Face) are films that Paramount has not already released themselves. This leads me to believe that, like Fox, they don't want Criterion releasing discs that will compete with their own product.
What unreleased Paramount (or CBS, or Viacom) properties seem like legitimate candidates for Criterion?
I'm thinking...
White Dog
Face to Face
Come Back to the Five and Dime Jimmy Dean, Jimmy Dean
The Friends of Eddie Coyle
The Mattei Affair
Hearts of Darkness: A Flimmaker's Apocalypse
...plus any number of silents.
It seems premature to speculate on Johnny Guitar and the rest of the Republic library, since most of those films supposedly went to Lionsgate. So far the only title they have licensed to Criterion is Kicking and Screaming.
What unreleased Paramount (or CBS, or Viacom) properties seem like legitimate candidates for Criterion?
I'm thinking...
White Dog
Face to Face
Come Back to the Five and Dime Jimmy Dean, Jimmy Dean
The Friends of Eddie Coyle
The Mattei Affair
Hearts of Darkness: A Flimmaker's Apocalypse
...plus any number of silents.
It seems premature to speculate on Johnny Guitar and the rest of the Republic library, since most of those films supposedly went to Lionsgate. So far the only title they have licensed to Criterion is Kicking and Screaming.
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- Jeff
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I do not think that Nashville is likely. There is no bigger Altman fan than I, but I just can't see it happening. For one thing, I'm just not sure what Criterion can add. The existing disc has an Altman commentary. If Criterion had the rights to any extant Altman retrospective docs, they would have already used them on another disc. I can't imagine that they would spend the money to license a film like that and create a new documentary. They just wouldn't be able to justify it with sales.Derek Estes wrote:So do you think Nashville is out of the question? I really can't imagine Criterion not trying to get their hands on Altman's opus. Not to mention the fact that it just needs to happen.
Moreover though, this deal looks a lot more like the Fox one than the Universal one to me. When Universal first entered the DVD market they licensed to everyone. A big chunk of their library went to Image, some more to Goodtimes, some to Anchor Bay, and finally some to Criterion. The Criterion license is the only one that has persisted (likely because it is the most profitable), and they have no problem licensing films that they've already released themselves or plan to release, and keeping both versions on the market simultaneously.
Fox, on the other hand, licensed only about a dozen titles to Criterion. They did them all in one fell swoop. All of them were titles that they had not released themselves. As with Paramount, they were mostly neglected classics, cult favorites, and films that had been unavailable on video - probably situations where they hadn't created a video master in years and had no desire to do so. The Paramount and Fox deals look virtually identical to me.
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How about a stunning transfer? I'm all about crazy extras and multi-disc packages, but Nashville needs an HD transfer first just to get off the ground...Jeff wrote:I do not think that Nashville is likely. There is no bigger Altman fan than I, but I just can't see it happening. For one thing, I'm just not sure what Criterion can add.
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Even the use of Music alone would warrant a documentary. There are plenty of the actors involved who could be interviewed for this release, even a second commentary, where everyone talks over each other. A new transfer, a book of essays. I hardly think it would be difficult to put out a stunning release of this film. The existing Paramount is decent, but this film if far too important to be ignored.
- Jeff
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I certainly hope that you're right, and I would buy the disc in a heartbeat, but I just don't see it happening.Derek Estes wrote:Even the use of Music alone would warrant a documentary. There are plenty of the actors involved who could be interviewed for this release, even a second commentary, where everyone talks over each other. A new transfer, a book of essays. I hardly think it would be difficult to put out a stunning release of this film. The existing Paramount is decent, but this film if far too important to be ignored.
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How did I miss this lunacy?Mental Mike wrote:I disagree, Schreck. The Paramount release of The Conformist is basically a straight transfer from video to DVD...it had no evidence of being recently restored as was indeed performed recently. Criterion's version of La Commare Secca was a beautiful transfer and this film is a lot older than The Conformist (and less popular)...it is a shame that La Commare Secca looks a lot better than Paramount's release of The Conformist which deserves a re-do...
Since Mike is clearly Mental and needs glasses -- and has already been beaten back -- I'll not beat a poor dead mouse.
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A couple other thought:
- Marlon Brando's "One-Eyed Jacks" is a contender, based on the fact that Criterion was working on the Maysles' "Meet Marlon Brando" a year or so ago. Technically it's PD, but Paramount produced the film and so probably owns the original elements.
- Apart from "Wings" and the silent "Ten Commandments," how many silent films do Paramount still control? I thought most of them would have been sold to MCA/Universal with the other classics.
- Pietro Germi's "Alfredo, Alfredo" is a Paramount title. Criterion loves them some Germi.
- I'd pick up a Criterion "Nashville" in a heartbeat; but the one I'd really like them to revisit is "Harold and Maude." That would be something special.
-BJ
- Marlon Brando's "One-Eyed Jacks" is a contender, based on the fact that Criterion was working on the Maysles' "Meet Marlon Brando" a year or so ago. Technically it's PD, but Paramount produced the film and so probably owns the original elements.
- Apart from "Wings" and the silent "Ten Commandments," how many silent films do Paramount still control? I thought most of them would have been sold to MCA/Universal with the other classics.
- Pietro Germi's "Alfredo, Alfredo" is a Paramount title. Criterion loves them some Germi.
- I'd pick up a Criterion "Nashville" in a heartbeat; but the one I'd really like them to revisit is "Harold and Maude." That would be something special.
-BJ
- Gordon
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I love to see a Polanski box or an SE of the following:
Rosemary's Baby
Chinatown
The Tenant
Commenaries and/or extensive interviews with Polanski would be amazing, as would the inclusion of Clive James meets Roman Polanski from 1984 and/or Mark Cousins', Scene by Scene with Roman Polanski from 2002.
I'd also love to see SEs of Hud and Harold and Maude.
Rosemary's Baby
Chinatown
The Tenant
Commenaries and/or extensive interviews with Polanski would be amazing, as would the inclusion of Clive James meets Roman Polanski from 1984 and/or Mark Cousins', Scene by Scene with Roman Polanski from 2002.
I'd also love to see SEs of Hud and Harold and Maude.
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