Turner Classic Movies
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- Antoine Doinel
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TCM Imports Montage... if anyone can name off a few of these I'd be grateful:
Has anyone seen this?--they've been showing it for the past several weeks. I always think TCM does a good job of putting different film elements together to create advertisements for their different programs, and I find this one especially intersting. However, I must admit that I am unfamiliar with the majority of these images (besides the obviously iconic ones). There are quite a few beautiful images here, and I'd like to check some of these out...can anyone name some of these films?
Has anyone seen this?--they've been showing it for the past several weeks. I always think TCM does a good job of putting different film elements together to create advertisements for their different programs, and I find this one especially intersting. However, I must admit that I am unfamiliar with the majority of these images (besides the obviously iconic ones). There are quite a few beautiful images here, and I'd like to check some of these out...can anyone name some of these films?
- Cold Bishop
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He sounded utterly confused and bewildered, almost like he was in physical pain, while talking about Hiroshi Teshigahara.Since it's abundantly clear that he's all at sea when it comes to the international cinema, routinely butchering names, titles and more, can't TCM simply reshoot when he omits or adds a consonant, or throws in an extra syllable? It's not like the people who bother to tune in at 2:00 a.m. aren't going to notice the howlers.
It was actually pretty humorous.
- Highway 61
- Joined: Mon Nov 08, 2004 4:40 pm
Has anyone checked out TCM's February schedule? It's entirely Oscar themed, with one night devoted to "Best Supporting Actor winners" or "Best Visual Effects." I've only been watching the channel for a few months, so maybe they do this every year near the Oscar telecast, but I thought it was quite bizzare to see movies like "Batman Forever" and "The Patriot" on their schedule. I really hope this is just a fluke, and not indicative of the direction TCM is headed.
- Ashirg
- Joined: Wed Nov 03, 2004 9:10 am
- Location: Atlanta
I really dig their promos of the month. Here's what I found on youtube -
September 2001
June 2006
September 2006
November 2006
December 2006
September 2001
June 2006
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November 2006
December 2006
Yeah, TCM is the only channel where I look forward to watching the commercials. I remember they did a promo for a series of Michael Powell films that was being shown one month, about 2-3 years ago. I believe I wasn't that familiar with his and Pressburger's films then, but I wanted to see them after the promo, which impressed me. I Wish I could find it again but no dice.
Some may call it artificial, but promos like these, and dvd covers/packaging, advertisements in general have a great pull on those that wouldn't necessarily sit down and watch the film just for itself. For that reason I'm beginning to understand and like Criterion's new approach, and TCM's continuing style--If it pulls more people into the wonderful world of film that's good-- and those that see the substance otherwise can just go on appreciating increasingly good presentations of the films themselves, if not the packaging.
Some may call it artificial, but promos like these, and dvd covers/packaging, advertisements in general have a great pull on those that wouldn't necessarily sit down and watch the film just for itself. For that reason I'm beginning to understand and like Criterion's new approach, and TCM's continuing style--If it pulls more people into the wonderful world of film that's good-- and those that see the substance otherwise can just go on appreciating increasingly good presentations of the films themselves, if not the packaging.
- Belmondo
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Just watched part one of the TCM original documentary BRANDO. Very enjoyable but not so great that you have to pull your hair out if you don't get TCM. Frankly, I think I learned more about Brando's early career from disc two of the recent Special Edition of "Streetcar Named Desire". We do get some insights into his personal life and see that his monumental appetite for (and quick rejection of) women, probably goes back to his childhood and his alcoholic mother. We see his early involvement in the civil rights struggle and Jane Fonda credits him as the inspiration for her own activism. Plenty of other comments from A list talents (Scorsese, Pacino, Duvall and many others), but they all sing his praises in exactly the way you would expect. The overall theme seems to be that Brando slowly lost interest in his craft.....problem is, we already knew that.
- tryavna
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I just received my TCM guide for June, and considering the demographics of this board, I thought many of you might be interested to know that TCM is going gay next month.
I presume that this will be organized like the Af-Am month last year, with Richard Barrios serving in much the same capacity as Donald Bogle did.
It will be interesting to see how TCM's core audience responds to this.
I presume that this will be organized like the Af-Am month last year, with Richard Barrios serving in much the same capacity as Donald Bogle did.
It will be interesting to see how TCM's core audience responds to this.
- Joe Buck
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I thought the Brando documentary was pretty good. Nothing Earth-shattering, but enjoyable. They didn't visit "Free Money", though, which had a great, over-the-top performance from Marlon.
Forgive me if this has already been covered, but I couldn't find any info with a search....why does TCM show a letterboxed version of "Waterfront". The DVD is full-screen. That is the correct ratio, isn't it?
Forgive me if this has already been covered, but I couldn't find any info with a search....why does TCM show a letterboxed version of "Waterfront". The DVD is full-screen. That is the correct ratio, isn't it?
- Belmondo
- Joined: Thu Feb 08, 2007 9:19 am
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Since not everyone has access to Turner Classic Movies, here are a few gems from part two of the BRANDO documentary:
Al Pacino claims credit for suggesting to Coppola that Brando be considered for the role of the Godfather. Coppola is not among the commentators but we hear (again) that Brando arrived on the set of APOCALYPSE NOW overweight, unprepared, and not ready to work. Brando would not go near Dennis Hopper who admits to not bathing for weeks to "get into his role".
Martin Scorsese credits Brando directly for the "you talkin' to me?" scene in TAXI DRIVER after seeing Brando preen and talk to the mirror in a scene from REFLECTIONS IN A GOLDEN EYE.
Many have suggested that the set of MUTINY ON THE BOUNTY was chaos and showed Brando at his worst, but close friend George Englund says that Brandos' low point was on the set of THE UGLY AMERICAN.
Bernardo Bertolucci says that Brando was "shocked" by his own performance in LAST TANGO IN PARIS, and in a vintage interview, Brando says that he "never could figure out what the movie was about".
Sorry to emphasize the sensational, the documentary was balanced and generally complementary. Virtually all agree that he was "a free spirit" in his personal life, and his influence is so great that actors can only fall into two categories - before Brando and after Brando.
Al Pacino claims credit for suggesting to Coppola that Brando be considered for the role of the Godfather. Coppola is not among the commentators but we hear (again) that Brando arrived on the set of APOCALYPSE NOW overweight, unprepared, and not ready to work. Brando would not go near Dennis Hopper who admits to not bathing for weeks to "get into his role".
Martin Scorsese credits Brando directly for the "you talkin' to me?" scene in TAXI DRIVER after seeing Brando preen and talk to the mirror in a scene from REFLECTIONS IN A GOLDEN EYE.
Many have suggested that the set of MUTINY ON THE BOUNTY was chaos and showed Brando at his worst, but close friend George Englund says that Brandos' low point was on the set of THE UGLY AMERICAN.
Bernardo Bertolucci says that Brando was "shocked" by his own performance in LAST TANGO IN PARIS, and in a vintage interview, Brando says that he "never could figure out what the movie was about".
Sorry to emphasize the sensational, the documentary was balanced and generally complementary. Virtually all agree that he was "a free spirit" in his personal life, and his influence is so great that actors can only fall into two categories - before Brando and after Brando.
- Highway 61
- Joined: Mon Nov 08, 2004 4:40 pm
TCM will start showing movies online. From the Hollywood Reporter:
Turner Classic Movies on Tuesday launched an online video destination devoted to classic films.
Dubbed the Media Room, the new video portal lives on the TCM.com site and launched with more than 3,000 pieces of shortform video content in the form of short films, movie clips, trailers and interstitials from TCM programming.
The launch also featured the online premiere of the 1937 romantic comedy "Living on Love" in its entirety. In the future, Media Room will offer features in a widescreen Cinemascope format and without letterboxing, which is designed to duplicate the cinematic experience.
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- Floyd
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I am unsure why you fear that they could ever become the abomination that is AMC. I don't read anything here about them including commercials and showing films which look to be 5th generation VHS.
I am a bit surprised to read the gay films and The Maltese Falcon there as it seems an obviously gay film. Perhaps this is just widely known to people but I have never read anything about its gay undertones. I saw it when I was around 13 so maybe it just wasn't in my range. If anyone knows any articles I would like to read about that.
I am a bit surprised to read the gay films and The Maltese Falcon there as it seems an obviously gay film. Perhaps this is just widely known to people but I have never read anything about its gay undertones. I saw it when I was around 13 so maybe it just wasn't in my range. If anyone knows any articles I would like to read about that.
- Belmondo
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As far as I know, TCM is doing just fine financially. Most cable companies include it as part of a "premium package", and they get their share of the fees.
As far as gay themed movies go; I find this subject to be intriguing and am looking forward to seeing these movies even though I think that sometimes we dig too deep in order to find an undercurrent that may not be there. For example, I have the new special edition of THE GUNS OF NAVARONE and one of the commentators insists that there is a male attraction just beneath the surface involving all the main characters. I just don't see it, and Alistair MacLean, who wrote the straightforward adventure novel, would have been shocked, SHOCKED, to find love going on here.
As far as gay themed movies go; I find this subject to be intriguing and am looking forward to seeing these movies even though I think that sometimes we dig too deep in order to find an undercurrent that may not be there. For example, I have the new special edition of THE GUNS OF NAVARONE and one of the commentators insists that there is a male attraction just beneath the surface involving all the main characters. I just don't see it, and Alistair MacLean, who wrote the straightforward adventure novel, would have been shocked, SHOCKED, to find love going on here.
- Matt
- Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2004 12:58 pm
The films that they are showing are not necessarily "gay" films; they are more often films that have a "gay" character (however veiled or coded). The Maltese Falcon does not appear because it has gay undertones (or overtones or nexttotones) but because of the character of Joel Cairo, an obvious pansy.Floyd wrote:I am a bit surprised to read the gay films and The Maltese Falcon there as it seems an obviously gay film. Perhaps this is just widely known to people but I have never read anything about its gay undertones.
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It's because I've been raised in a culture of fear, where fearing the imminent demise of TCM is right near the top!Floyd wrote:I am unsure why you fear that they could ever become the abomination that is AMC. I don't read anything here about them including commercials and showing films which look to be 5th generation VHS.
- tryavna
- Joined: Wed Mar 30, 2005 4:38 pm
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Have neither of you ever read the original novel? Cairo, Gutman, and Wilmer are all clearly gay in the book. They had to be "coded" for the film. (Not that I'm disagreeing with Matt's point, but the status of the characters are especially obvious if you know the novel.)Matt wrote:The films that they are showing are not necessarily "gay" films; they are more often films that have a "gay" character (however veiled or coded). The Maltese Falcon does not appear because it has gay undertones (or overtones or nexttotones) but because of the character of Joel Cairo, an obvious pansy.
And if you haven't read the book, you should! Huston is remarkably faithful to it, but he still can't quite reproduce Hammett's wonderfully hard-boiled prose.
- Polybius
- Joined: Wed Nov 03, 2004 10:57 pm
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"Look what you did to my shirt!!"tryavna wrote:Matt wrote:The films that they are showing are not necessarily "gay" films; they are more often films that have a "gay" character (however veiled or coded). The Maltese Falcon does not appear because it has gay undertones (or overtones or nexttotones) but because of the character of Joel Cairo, an obvious pansy.
We also don't get to see Brigid nude. (She's rather more of a classic fatale in Hammett's hands. I like Mary, but she's a little schoolmarmish for the role.)Have neither of you ever read the original novel? Cairo, Gutman, and Wilmer are all clearly gay in the book. They had to be "coded" for the film. (Not that I'm disagreeing with Matt's point, but the status of the characters are especially obvious if you know the novel.)
It's a fabulous novel, very nicely brought to life by John's script. An impressive initial effort.And if you haven't read the book, you should! Huston is remarkably faithful to it, but he still can't quite reproduce Hammett's wonderfully hard-boiled prose.
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I watched the old TCM VHS copy of Ambersons last night and it has an intro with Robert Osbourne at the beginning where he claims something to the effect of "who knows maybe the cuts were a blessing because the film could scarcely be better than it already is". Perhaps he's changed his intro when it airs on TCM now but that's ridiculous. I mean of course none of us have seen Welles' cut and will never know if it's actually a better film (but I'd wager a good deal of money that it probably was). But to say that the cuts made by RKO "might have been blessing" is pretty damn insane.