Avatar and the Avatar Cadence (James Cameron, 2009-2025)

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Re: Avatar and the Avatar Cadence (James Cameron, 2009-2025)

#451 Post by knives » Wed Jun 28, 2017 12:04 pm

Presumably yes, just not among the sort of people that are into film. Walmart shoppers basically.

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#452 Post by bearcuborg » Wed Jun 28, 2017 12:04 pm

Probably not a significant amount of people, and while I remember liking the movie, I don't know any character's name or anything more than the superficial story points.

Still, if he manages to improve upon 3D like in the link I previously posted, then I can't imagine it not being a huge hit.

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#453 Post by DarkImbecile » Wed Jun 28, 2017 12:06 pm

For all the disdain the first one gets and the seeming lack of enthusiasm for the sequels, I will not be surprised in the least if Avatar 2 becomes the highest grossing film of all time domestically and worldwide. Cameron knows how to get audiences in seats, even if they later can't explain exactly why they paid to see his movie three times.

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#454 Post by tenia » Wed Jun 28, 2017 12:14 pm

But can a renowned director like Cameron be happy of its latest movies just feeding some fads ?
Because the first movie got lots and lots of attention, but it dried out progressively to the point not many people seems to fondly remember it (unlike, say, The Dark Knight - for a recent movie that was well received but still is fondly remembered -).

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#455 Post by Dead or Deader » Wed Jun 28, 2017 12:24 pm

One of the biggest box office smash that has faded into mere obscurity. Nothing I know of real people indicates it has real staying power.

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#456 Post by matrixschmatrix » Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:08 pm

I mean nobody I know admits to voting for Trump, either

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#457 Post by Brian C » Wed Jun 28, 2017 4:07 pm

I sort of want to watch Avatar again right now just out of sheer contrarianism. I might actually do it, too.

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#458 Post by mfunk9786 » Wed Jun 28, 2017 4:24 pm

Wasn’t Obamacare introduced in Congress in 2009 too? Coincidence? I think not.

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#459 Post by captveg » Wed Jun 28, 2017 4:32 pm

American audiences were mostly into the film as a type of fad, but Chinese audiences is where one saw cosplay and real investment in the world and characters. It's currently #15 in China's list of highest grossing films of all-time, but it's also the oldest film among the Top 50. If The Fate of the Furious can earn $400m in China in 2017, I wouldn't be surprised to see the Avatar sequel earn $600-700m from China alone in 2020.

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#460 Post by Big Ben » Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:18 pm

Cameron spills the beans on the sequels.

A tidbit:
Blue Man wrote:It's long been confirmed that Stephen Lang's Colonel Quartich would return (despite taking a pair of four-foot arrows in the chest), but talking to Empire in our September issue, Cameron reveals that Quaritch won't be relegated to a supporting role or appear solely in flashbacks. Rather, he will continue to menace Jake, Neytiri and the other Na'vi throughout all five movies as the saga's main antagonist.
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#461 Post by knives » Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:19 pm

Don't worry. No one will remember he died in the first when the next gets released in 3019.

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#462 Post by starmanof51 » Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:26 pm

My decision to skip the first one continues to hold up

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#463 Post by Fiery Angel » Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:54 pm

starmanof51 wrote:My decision to skip the first one continues to hold up
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#464 Post by Gregory » Tue Aug 08, 2017 6:48 pm

One person's cadence is another person's quintrilogy is another person's "Mongoian clusterfuck."

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#465 Post by zedz » Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:34 pm

"Did somebody say quintrilogy?"
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#466 Post by domino harvey » Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:47 pm

The first time I saw Quintron and Miss Pussycat live was back before the Great White tragedy and there used to be a flume attached to the Drum Buddy that would shoot a huge burst of flames straight up from the organ as Quintron took all his clothes off because, yknow, there's fire pouring out of his instrument and it's hot -- five movies' worth of that excitement would be worth whatever Cameron is pissing away here on tree elves

EDIT: And hey, they can bring along Helen Mirren (WTF)

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#467 Post by domino harvey » Thu Aug 10, 2017 10:20 pm

Josh Brolin turned down the Avatar sequels and Cameron called him names in response

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#468 Post by Big Ben » Fri Aug 11, 2017 1:14 am

It's well known that Cameron is a difficult director and has done some crazy shit to actors (Ed Harris vowed to never work with him again.) so this is is just par the course. Plus I think Deadpool 2 is still a better choice. I would much rather see Brolin be Cable in multiple sequels than whatever Cameron cooks (Defecates?) up.

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#469 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:41 am

I wonder if him and Arnold are on the outs, or at least have agreed not to work with each other as actor and director anymore.

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#470 Post by Big Ben » Fri Aug 11, 2017 11:45 am

flyonthewall2983 wrote:I wonder if him and Arnold are on the outs, or at least have agreed not to work with each other as actor and director anymore.
They are not. Arnold will be back to Terminate with Cameron again.

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#471 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Sat Aug 12, 2017 11:59 am

It's got an interesting plot. Arnold will play the guy the machines are based on, a concept I can't believe nobody thought of or gave much credence to previously.

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#472 Post by RobertAltman » Sat Aug 12, 2017 12:11 pm

flyonthewall2983 wrote:It's got an interesting plot. Arnold will play the guy the machines are based on, a concept I can't believe nobody thought of or gave much credence to previously.
Except in this deleted scene (wise choice) from Terminator 3


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#474 Post by Big Ben » Tue Nov 21, 2017 3:44 pm

Cameron gives a surreal update involving children underwater.
“We’ve done a tremendous amount of testing, and we did it successfully, for the first time, just last Tuesday [November 14th]. We actually played an entire scene underwater with our young cast. We’ve got six teenagers and one seven-year-old, and they’re all playing a scene underwater. We’ve been training them for six months now, with how to hold their breath, and they’re all up in the two to four minute range. They’re all perfectly capable of acting underwater, very calmly while holding their breath. We’re not doing any of this on scuba. And we’re getting really good data, beautiful character motion and great facial performance capture. We’ve basically cracked the code.”
Having flashbacks to Ed Harris and The Abyss.

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#475 Post by colinr0380 » Fri Nov 24, 2017 6:27 pm

Or that scene showing the effects of the breathable fluid on the rat. The film is unedited now but that scene was cut out of the first VHS versions of the film in the UK for animal cruelty.

Though this also makes me think of that Chris Cunningham directed music video for Portishead: Only You

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