I remember there a lot of talk regarding Vikander but I don't think it ever really happened. I think the closest another performance had on a nomination was a bad performance sort of influencing a win, and even then it only sort of really happened once with Murphy and Showgirls/Norbit.swo17 wrote:Unless vote splitting prevents either role from being nominated. Are there any big examples of this having happened?
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It obviously didn't happen with Vikander. I'm talking about two well received roles each garnering a respectable number of votes but neither enough to make the top 5 nominee list.
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I understood what you said... I said except the nervous talk that it would happen (and didnt) I don't recall it happening lately
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There are always snubs, but I can't recall any particular example of this happening. Maybe back in the studio era when the bosses would tell employees who to vote for from the studio and wires got crossed on which role, since modern campaigning serves to eliminate mistakes like this. Trust me, come January (and long before that), Adams will have decided which role to lobby behind and having two great roles can only help whichever one she gets in for. This is the new narrative, and it's great for Adams, one of our greatest working actressesswo17 wrote:It obviously didn't happen with Vikander. I'm talking about two well received roles each garnering a respectable number of votes but neither enough to make the top 5 nominee list.
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I agree that the campaign machine is now well-oiled enough that the wires rarely get crossed. I have no doubt that Adams/her publicists/ the studios/whoever else makes these decisions will figure out which role will give her the most edge and push that one. It may come down to which of the two films has more clout or awards potential generally, even if it's the weaker of her two performances (as with Winslet and the Revolutionary Road/Reader situation).
I'm remembering that in 2012 Matthew McConaughey got snubbed at the Oscars after racking up a number of critics' awards for Magic Mike, Killer Joe, and Bernie, and a similar situation happened in 2014 when Jessica Chastain got shut out after winning critics' awards for A Most Violent Year, Miss Julie, Interstellar, and The Disappearance of Eleanor Rigby. But it's interesting to note that in both of those examples each actor had more than two films in play, which was probably spreading things too thin.
I'm remembering that in 2012 Matthew McConaughey got snubbed at the Oscars after racking up a number of critics' awards for Magic Mike, Killer Joe, and Bernie, and a similar situation happened in 2014 when Jessica Chastain got shut out after winning critics' awards for A Most Violent Year, Miss Julie, Interstellar, and The Disappearance of Eleanor Rigby. But it's interesting to note that in both of those examples each actor had more than two films in play, which was probably spreading things too thin.
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I think it was more a case of the Academy not really liking those films. With the exception of Interstellar non of the other film were nominated, and as much as I like them and his performances I can never see the academy nominating any ofianthemovie wrote:I agree that the campaign machine is now well-oiled enough that the wires rarely get crossed. I have no doubt that Adams/her publicists/ the studios/whoever else makes these decisions will figure out which role will give her the most edge and push that one. It may come down to which of the two films has more clout or awards potential generally, even if it's the weaker of her two performances (as with Winslet and the Revolutionary Road/Reader situation).
I'm remembering that in 2012 Matthew McConaughey got snubbed at the Oscars after racking up a number of critics' awards for Magic Mike, Killer Joe, and Bernie, and a similar situation happened in 2014 when Jessica Chastain got shut out after winning critics' awards for A Most Violent Year, Miss Julie, Interstellar, and The Disappearance of Eleanor Rigby. But it's interesting to note that in both of those examples each actor had more than two films in play, which was probably spreading things too thin.
McConaughey's roles. But Dallas Buyers Club is more in their alley. Ditto Chastain and The Help/Zero Dark Thirty
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True. With regard to Adams she will likely have better odds with whichever of her two films shapes up to be a player in the other major categories like Best Picture. Her Big Eyes performance, which (before the film was seen) looked like it would make her a Best Actress front-runner, was ignored after the film itself flopped. We'll have to wait and see how Arrival and Nocturnal Animals are received.
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Seriously, why doesn't Jimmy Kimmel host every award show?
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I just assumed his awful sketches before the Oscars a couple years back (particularly the one where he showed up in viewers' living rooms to scold them on having negative opinions about celebrities) justifiably took him out of the running for that job.
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I also would assume that ABC likes him for the post-Oscars show too much to want to mess with that.
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It was also the lowest-rated Emmy's ever, which the network will obviously see as an indictment of him rather than the fact it was just a kind of boring year narrative-wise
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Hasn't every live tv awards show this year other than sports been lowest-rated ever, at least since the previous year set that record? I think the problem runs deeper than "narrative"Ribs wrote:It was also the lowest-rated Emmy's ever, which the network will obviously see as an indictment of him rather than the fact it was just a kind of boring year narrative-wise
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I'm not making fun of your typo-i know what movie you meant as i'm sure everyone else here does but man, what i wouldn't have given to have seen Eddie Murphy in Showgirls...dda1996a wrote: ...and even then it only sort of really happened once with Murphy and Showgirls/Norbit.
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I was watching a Verhoeven so I confused the two... Yeah I meant Dreamgirls, but jeez Murphy in Showgirls will be interestingbarryconvex wrote:I'm not making fun of your typo-i know what movie you meant as i'm sure everyone else here does but man, what i wouldn't have given to have seen Eddie Murphy in Showgirls...dda1996a wrote: ...and even then it only sort of really happened once with Murphy and Showgirls/Norbit.
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Final list of Foreign Language film submissions:
Albania, Chromium, Bujar Alimani, director
Algeria, The Well, Lotfi Bouchouchi, director
Argentina, The Distinguished Citizen, Mariano Cohn, Gastón Duprat, directors
Australia, Tanna, Bentley Dean, Martin Butler, directors
Austria, Stefan Zweig: Farewell to Europe, Maria Schrader, director
Bangladesh, The Unnamed, Tauquir Ahmed, director
Belgium, The Ardennes, Robin Pront, director
Bolivia, Sealed Cargo, Julia Vargas Weise, director
Bosnia and Herzegovina, Death in Sarajevo, Danis Tanovic, director
Brazil, Little Secret, David Schurmann, director
Bulgaria, Losers, Ivaylo Hristov, director
Cambodia, Before the Fall, Ian White, director
Canada, It’s Only the End of the World, Xavier Dolan, director
Chile, Neruda, Pablo Larraín, director
China, Xuan Zang, Huo Jianqi, director
Colombia, Alias Maria, José Luis Rugeles, director
Costa Rica, About Us, Hernán Jiménez, director
Croatia, On the Other Side, Zrinko Ogresta, director
Cuba, The Companion, Pavel Giroud, director
Czech Republic, Lost in Munich, Petr Zelenka, director
Denmark, Land of Mine, Martin Zandvliet, director
Dominican Republic, Sugar Fields, Fernando Báez, director
Ecuador, Such Is Life in the Tropics, Sebastián Cordero, director
Egypt, Clash, Mohamed Diab, director
Estonia, Mother, Kadri Kõusaar, director
Finland, The Happiest Day in the Life of Olli Mäki, Juho Kuosmanen, director
France, Elle, Paul Verhoeven, director
Georgia, House of Others, Rusudan Glurjidze, director
Germany, Toni Erdmann, Maren Ade, director
Greece, Chevalier, Athina Rachel Tsangari, director
Hong Kong, Port of Call, Philip Yung, director
Hungary, Kills on Wheels, Attila Till, director
Iceland, Sparrows, Rúnar Rúnarsson, director
India, Interrogation, Vetri Maaran, director
Indonesia, Letters from Prague, Angga Dwimas Sasongko, director
Iran, The Salesman, Asghar Farhadi, director
Iraq, El Clásico, Halkawt Mustafa, director
Israel, Sand Storm, Elite Zexer, director
Italy, Fire at Sea, Gianfranco Rosi, director
Japan, Nagasaki: Memories of My Son, Yoji Yamada, director
Jordan, 3000 Nights, Mai Masri, director
Kazakhstan, Amanat, Satybaldy Narymbetov, director
Kosovo, Home Sweet Home, Faton Bajraktari, director
Kyrgyzstan, A Father’s Will, Bakyt Mukul, Dastan Zhapar Uulu, directors
Latvia, Dawn, Laila Pakalnina, director
Lebanon, Very Big Shot, Mir-Jean Bou Chaaya, director
Lithuania, Seneca’s Day, Kristijonas Vildziunas, director
Luxembourg, Voices from Chernobyl, Pol Cruchten, director
Macedonia, The Liberation of Skopje, Rade Šerbedžija, Danilo Šerbedžija, directors
Malaysia, Beautiful Pain, Tunku Mona Riza, director
Mexico, Desierto, Jonás Cuarón, director
Montenegro, The Black Pin, Ivan Marinović, director
Morocco, A Mile in My Shoes, Said Khallaf, director
Nepal, The Black Hen, Min Bahadur Bham, director
Netherlands, Tonio, Paula van der Oest, director
New Zealand, A Flickering Truth, Pietra Brettkelly, director
Norway, The King’s Choice, Erik Poppe, director
Pakistan, Mah-e-Mir, Anjum Shahzad, director
Palestine, The Idol, Hany Abu-Assad, director
Panama, Salsipuedes, Ricardo Aguilar Navarro, Manolito Rodríguez, directors
Peru, Videophilia (and Other Viral Syndromes), Juan Daniel F. Molero, director
Philippines, Ma’ Rosa, Brillante Ma Mendoza, director
Poland, Afterimage, Andrzej Wajda, director
Portugal, Letters from War, Ivo M. Ferreira, director
Romania, Sieranevada, Cristi Puiu, director
Russia, Paradise, Andrei Konchalovsky, director
Saudi Arabia, Barakah Meets Barakah, Mahmoud Sabbagh, director
Serbia, Train Driver’s Diary, Milos Radovic, director
Singapore, Apprentice, Boo Junfeng, director
Slovakia, Eva Nová, Marko Skop, director
Slovenia, Houston, We Have a Problem! Žiga Virc, director
South Africa, Call Me Thief, Daryne Joshua, director
South Korea, The Age of Shadows, Kim Jee-woon, director
Spain, Julieta, Pedro Almodóvar, director
Sweden, A Man Called Ove, Hannes Holm, director
Switzerland, My Life as a Zucchini, Claude Barras, director
Taiwan, Hang in There, Kids! Laha Mebow, director
Thailand, Karma, Kanittha Kwunyoo, director
Turkey, Cold of Kalandar, Mustafa Kara, director
Ukraine, Ukrainian Sheriffs, Roman Bondarchuk, director
United Kingdom, Under the Shadow, Babak Anvari, director
Uruguay, Breadcrumbs, Manane Rodríguez, director
Venezuela, From Afar, Lorenzo Vigas, director
Vietnam, Yellow Flowers on the Green Grass, Victor Vu, director
Yemen, I Am Nojoom, Age 10 and Divorced, Khadija Al-Salami, director
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I daresay Andrzej Wajda's death boosts the chances of a sympathy vote (especially as he had four unsuccessful Best Foreign Film nominations in the last), but Afterimage is nowhere near the best Polish film of the year - I could cite at least half a dozen that are clearly superior.
It's not a bad film, and it's clearly heartfelt (Wajda also had first-hand experience of enforced Socialist Realism), but even by the standards of Katyń it's deeply old-fashioned and aesthetically conservative, which arguably does its subject, avant-garde painter Władysław Strzemiński, a significant disservice.
It's not a bad film, and it's clearly heartfelt (Wajda also had first-hand experience of enforced Socialist Realism), but even by the standards of Katyń it's deeply old-fashioned and aesthetically conservative, which arguably does its subject, avant-garde painter Władysław Strzemiński, a significant disservice.
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Independent Spirit Awards Nominations, led by American Honey and Moonlight
Notably, no acting nominations for Moonlight, which seems bonkers to me.
Notably, no acting nominations for Moonlight, which seems bonkers to me.
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What the hell is Chronic?
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Tim Roth as a nurse befriending dying patients. Came out in the UK early this year I think.
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Also no Rebecca Hall for Christine; I know it's a strong year for actresses both supporting and lead, but that makes it even more crazy that she wasn't nominated here as she'll likely be overlooked for the more mainstream awards.mfunk9786 wrote:Independent Spirit Awards Nominations, led by American Honey and Moonlight
Notably, no acting nominations for Moonlight, which seems bonkers to me.
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She's not going to be nominated for an Oscar, her best bet is a stray critic's award. And the Independent Spirit Awards are notorious for weird choices and purposely leaving off obvious candidates or subbing in a co-star instead of the one with momentum behind them elsewhere (see Ben Foster this year, for starters)
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Ben Foster is gaining Oscar buzz for his work in that film too, since Supporting Actor is considered so wide open and so many voters have seen it or will see it by the time they vote