Psycho (Alfred Hitchcock, 1960)

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Re: Psycho (Alfred Hitchcock, 1960)

#76 Post by mfunk9786 » Mon Jul 02, 2012 3:35 pm

Wow, where is the narrative drive going to be in this series aside from soul-sucking nagging and cruelty from mother to son until he starts offing people?

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#77 Post by Roger Ryan » Mon Jul 02, 2012 4:48 pm

I believe this was already accomplished with PSYCHO IV: THE BEGINNING and it only needed 96 minutes to do it.

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#78 Post by colinr0380 » Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:51 am

But will it have the late night talk show wraparound/flashback structure that Psycho IV had? (I wonder if Psycho IV was taking some cues from that Midnight Caller TV show? I suppose we could have a CCH Pounder vs Gary Cole face off over who is the most believable late night talk radio host! Though Eric Bogosian would probably win with a last minute ranting monologue!)


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Re: Psycho (Alfred Hitchcock, 1960)

#80 Post by kingofthejungle » Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:45 am

It's an interesting idea conceptually (particularly since the film deals so directly with ideas of multiple personalities), but I think the execution is a little on the dull side (at least until the shower scene).

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#81 Post by colinr0380 » Wed Feb 26, 2014 1:05 pm

It works better in the slow moments but I liked in the shower scene that you kind of get ghostly, double vision afterimages that only adds to the impression of violence.

It also hadn't really dawned on me until that video that Van Sant does a rotating spiral out of the eye rather than a slow zoom out that hangs on the final stare longer: inspired homage to Vertigo or a wish to keep the pace of the scene visually interesting on the assumption that modern audiences might get bored?

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#82 Post by admira » Sat Dec 20, 2014 7:18 am

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#83 Post by TMDaines » Mon Oct 17, 2016 5:59 am

Discovered the German TV edit of Psycho today. It seems that our friends in Deutschland are often treated to a slightly longer cut that has a few more lingering shots on the violence and undressing. Is there any truth to the claim that the rest of the world is watching a cut version that isn't Hitchcock's vision?

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#84 Post by Jonathan S » Mon Oct 17, 2016 8:26 am

There's a more detailed account in this earlier article (though its introduction is misleading).

The cuts in the domestic US version, to which Hitchcock was persuaded to agree, are mentioned in Universal's very long making-of documentary, and a clip is even included. I doubt the extra footage is exclusive to the German version - it's just that the framegrabs from the German TV copy highlighted the issue. I'm sure I've seen at least some of the cut material either in 16mm UK prints or BBC broadcasts in the 1970s & 80s (as with the German TV version, these were open-matte transfers so from different masters than the widescreen ones used now).

Of all the films that might benefit from a Director's Cut edition this is surely one of the most important, but I'm surprised there's relatively little interest. I raised the issue with a US Hitchcock fan and he replied: "As long as it's the domestic release version I saw in 1960, I really don't care."

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Re: Psycho (Alfred Hitchcock, 1960)

#85 Post by Roger Ryan » Mon Oct 17, 2016 8:34 am

Since it's pretty clear that the shots were trimmed or deleted for censorship reasons, I'd say it would be safe to assume Hitchcock would have preferred to retain the footage in the general release version even if he agreed to the re-editing. The loss of the "undressing" and "bloody hands" shots create only a mild discontinuity, but the abrupt fade-out on the low-angle knifing of Arbogast really undercuts (pun literally intended) the horror of that scene.

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Re: Psycho (Alfred Hitchcock, 1960)

#86 Post by TMDaines » Mon Oct 17, 2016 9:56 am

It's interesting, how Jonathan says, how little apparent interest there is in getting a Director's Cut of the film. Even though I've watched all the Psycho extras, I completely forgot about all this until I stumbled upon the German version on another site today.

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