Jacques Rivette
- justeleblanc
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- Location: Connecticut
Re: Jacques Rivette
I own a copy as well, but sans subs.
- tartarlamb
- Joined: Sun Nov 07, 2004 1:53 am
- Location: Portland, OR
Re: Paris s'en va (Jacques Rivette, 1981)
Yikes, congrats on getting your hands on that. Out of curiosity, how long is the film exactly? I was under the impression there was a 25 minute cut and a 40.cinemartin wrote:The film is 30 minutes and has the definite uncanny feel for time and place that Rivette brings.
- tartarlamb
- Joined: Sun Nov 07, 2004 1:53 am
- Location: Portland, OR
Re: Jacques Rivette
Just for the sake of following up, the mystery Noroit on Amazon doesn't have subs.
- Snob mon cul
- Joined: Wed Feb 03, 2010 2:25 pm
Re: Jacques Rivette
Here's a transcript of the French narration in Paris s'en va.
I found this Jeu de L'Oye that matches word for word with the one the narrator recites from. Actually the entire narration is just a series of quotes from various texts, which made transcribing it a lot easier.
I found this Jeu de L'Oye that matches word for word with the one the narrator recites from. Actually the entire narration is just a series of quotes from various texts, which made transcribing it a lot easier.
Le Noble Jeu de L'Oye Renouvelle des Grecs
Dédié aux amateurs
Ordre qu'il faut observer a ce jeu
Premièrement convenir du Prix du Jeu et de ce que l'en payera aux rencontres et accidents. Ce Jeu est de Soixante et a Trois Nombres, et celui qui atteint le premier le Nombre final gagne la partie, mais il n'est pas facile d'arriver au Chateau de l'Oye c'est-a-dire au Nombre 63, car il arrive beaucoup d'accidents avant que d'y arriver.
On joue a ce Jeu avec deux Dez, on tire au sort a qui commencera et celui qui a le plus haut point prend les deux Dez, les jette une fois - porte une a marque sur le Nombre qui correspond aux Dez, celui qui est a sa Droite Joue ensuite ainsi des autres, en observant qu'il faut que chaque joueur aye une marque differente.
Il n'y a rien de nouveau sous le soleil. Dans tous les pays, sous tous les ciels, au nord comme au midi, chez les noirs comme chez les blancs, sous la hutte du sauvage, et sous les ardoise du citadin, de tout temps, toujours et partout, le jeu a existé avec ses appétits, ses violences, ses excès. Il en est de même du merveilleux qui en tous lieux sut captiver les hommes au point de faire dire naguère à un prétendu devin.
Rien ne m'abat, rien ne m'arrête;
J'ai pour créer de grands effets
Plus d'art que de savoir, plus de front que de tête,
Plus de prestiges que de faits:
L'amour du merveilleux est un amour si bête!
Il voit ce que je dis, et non ce que je fais.
Le Noble Jeu de L'Oye Renouvelle des Grecs
Dédié aux amateurs
Ordre qu'il faut observer a ce jeu
Qui fera 6, où il y a un pont, payera le prix convenu et ira au nombre 12.
Clitandre, d'un ton si tendre, vous peint la plus vive ardeur
Vous ne savez rien comprendre et rien n'émeut votre coeur.
Cloris, peut-on à votre âge méconnaître le plaisir?
C'est un oiseau de passage qu'il faut promptement saisir.
Qui ira au nombre 42, où est un labyrinte, payera le prix convenu et retournera au nombre 30.
Napoléon se donnait au Jeu de L'Oye avec une ardeur toute méridionale, comptant les cases avec son marque comme un écolier, se dépitant quand les dés lui étaient contraires, n'entrant au "cabaret" qu'avec humeur, trichant de peur de tomber dans le "puits" ou d'aller en "prison", affrontant la "mort" avec témérité, révélant tout entier dans les péripéties de cette lutte générale son caractère plein de grands contraste.
Qui fera 6, où il y a un pont, payera le prix convenu et ira au nombre 12.
Qui ira au nombre 42, où est un labyrinte, payera le prix convenu et retournera au nombre 30.
Il faut observer que si le nombre tombe juste sur une oye, il faut recommencer à compter le même nombre jusqu'à ce que l'on en trouve plus, mais celui qui sera arrivé près du Château de l'Oye, et qui fera plus de points qu'il ne lui en faut pour y arriver juste, retournera en arrière en commençant à compter en allant comment rétrogradant et s'il tombe sure une oye, recommencera à compter, et toujourts en rétrogradant.
Qui ira au nombre 19, où il y a une hôtellerie, payera le prix convenu et se reposera tandis que chacun jouera deux fois.
Qui ira au nombre 31, où il a un puits, payera le prix convenu, il demeurera jusqu'à ce qu'un autre le relève, et ira à la place de celui qui l'aura relevé.
Qui ira au nombre 31, où il a un puits, payera le prix convenu, il demeurera jusqu'à ce qu'un autre le relève, et ira à la place de celui qui l'aura relevé.
Qui ira au nombre 58, où est un tombeau, ou la Mort, payera le prix convenu et recommencera de nouveau.
Qui ira au nombre 52, où il y a une prison payera le prix convenu et y restera jusqu'à ce qu'un autre joueur le relève.
Qui ira au nombre 58, où est un tombeau, ou la Mort, payera le prix convenu et recommencera de nouveau.
Et qui sera rencontré par un des joueurs, payera le prix convenu, et ira à sa place.
Je mets mon bonheur à vous plaire,
Recevez mon extrême ardeur,
Jamais aucune autre Bergère,
Ne triomphera de mon cœur.
Si votre prudent sagasse
Blâme mes sentiments secerts
Sylvie, si c'est un aveu vous blesse.
N'en accusez que vos attraits.
Last edited by Snob mon cul on Fri Apr 09, 2010 8:35 am, edited 1 time in total.
- Tommaso
- Joined: Fri May 19, 2006 10:09 am
Re: Jacques Rivette
Thanks a lot for this! It's much easier to read French than to only hear it. Time to watch the film again
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- aox
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Re: Jacques Rivette
There is a new underground movie theater theater that has popped up in Williamsburg in a hollowed out bodega on South 3rd and Bedford. They will be showing Out1 in May.
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Re: Jacques Rivette
It's a great theater, but they only screen things digitally, and usually bootleg copies - I would be surprised if the version they show is any different from the one available on torrent sites.
- aox
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- Location: nYc
Re: Jacques Rivette
Good to know, montgomery.
- zedz
- Joined: Sun Nov 07, 2004 7:24 pm
Re: Jacques Rivette
+montgomery wrote:It's a great theater,
=but they only screen things digitally, and usually bootleg copies
- who is bobby dylan
- Joined: Wed Nov 03, 2004 10:50 am
Re: Jacques Rivette
Contacted the theater. They confirmed that the screening will be a, "DVD, but not the best quality".
- Alan Smithee
- Joined: Mon Dec 06, 2010 11:49 am
- Location: brooklyn
Re: Jacques Rivette
Hey its only five bucks and you get outta the house.
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Re: Jacques Rivette
So what is the source -- a TV broadcast?
- Guido
- Joined: Sat May 31, 2008 11:31 pm
Re: Jacques Rivette
For anyone in or around the Montreal area, L'Amour fou is playing this Saturday at the Cinémathèque Québecoise, 5pm - on 35mm. If I can't get off work, I'll surely just kill myself.
- Tommaso
- Joined: Fri May 19, 2006 10:09 am
Re: Jacques Rivette
Finally got the Cinema Guild disc of "36 vues de Pic St.Loup" and watched it last night. Not entirely sure what to make of the film yet, but I think that the very short running time (for a Rivette film) works to its detriment. The pacing has Rivette's usual slowness, but that means that its 84 minutes don't allow a real exploration of the characters, especially that of Kate, and instead of showing us her inner struggles in a more oblique way, Rivette resorts to have her monologizing two times (once in the circus, and once on a cemetary) in a way that didn't work for me. It's a theatrical device, of course, and thus might be appropriate for a film that in many ways deals with theatre again, but these scenes really appeared shallow to me. And the highlighting of theatre in other moments (the final 'bow' to the audience, the repetitions of the clown numbers) has an almost didactic character which is absent in his other films.
On the positive side, there is of course another fine performance by Sergio Castellito (who is as charming here as in "Va savoir") and the fantastic cinematography by Irina Lubtchansky, who completely emulates the special look that her father gave to Rivette's earlier films. Very beautiful indeed. But all in all, the film feels like a condensed short story version of what should have been a novel, and doesn't add much to what Rivette has already 'said' in earlier films in a more elaborate and more convincing manner.
On the positive side, there is of course another fine performance by Sergio Castellito (who is as charming here as in "Va savoir") and the fantastic cinematography by Irina Lubtchansky, who completely emulates the special look that her father gave to Rivette's earlier films. Very beautiful indeed. But all in all, the film feels like a condensed short story version of what should have been a novel, and doesn't add much to what Rivette has already 'said' in earlier films in a more elaborate and more convincing manner.
- Tommaso
- Joined: Fri May 19, 2006 10:09 am
Re: Jacques Rivette
Okay guys, fasten your seatbelts and/or get out the champagne, because:
OUT 1 is coming on DVD!!! BOTH VERSIONS!!
From the German label absolut medien in November, although only with German subs.
More details here.
OUT 1 is coming on DVD!!! BOTH VERSIONS!!
From the German label absolut medien in November, although only with German subs.
More details here.
- zedz
- Joined: Sun Nov 07, 2004 7:24 pm
Re: Jacques Rivette
Wow, you sure went to a lot of trouble hacking into absolutmedien's site and putting up a fake page for such a late April Fool's joke.
What?
(Okay, now the race is on for the first English language port. Given Criterion's track record with Rivette and MoC being to good to be true, I'm going to place a rash bet on Madman.)
What?
(Okay, now the race is on for the first English language port. Given Criterion's track record with Rivette and MoC being to good to be true, I'm going to place a rash bet on Madman.)
- Tommaso
- Joined: Fri May 19, 2006 10:09 am
Re: Jacques Rivette
I suppose this is going to be the same like with the silents from FWMS: the same stuff gets released in all the territories, because these companies shoulder the costs together. So I suppose the chances for an English-friendly release aren't too bad, and yes, Madman is a good candidate indeed.
- John Edmond
- Joined: Mon Jan 18, 2010 8:35 pm
Re: Jacques Rivette
Hmmm, to avoid grinning like an awkward idiot all day I'm going to try and be pessimistic. Neither Madman, MOC or Criterion have released Duelle or Noroit on DVD yet so I doubt they'll release this. Ah screw it. Adrian Martin has secretly been doing all those commentaries for free just so he can call one favour in. Who wants to listen to a 13 hour commentary track by Martin and Rosenbaum recorded in one sitting?
Of course this + Criterion's August lineup means I'm going to have to put my debit card on suicide watch. r[]<
Of course this + Criterion's August lineup means I'm going to have to put my debit card on suicide watch. r[]<
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Re: Jacques Rivette
Time to whip out your credit cards - 780 glorious minutes on 5 DVDs are coming your way:
http://www.amazon.de/Out-Noli-tangere-S ... 186&sr=8-1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.amazon.de/Out-Noli-tangere-S ... 186&sr=8-1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Jacques Rivette
Only if you speak French or German.Stefan wrote:Time to whip out your credit cards
- Tommaso
- Joined: Fri May 19, 2006 10:09 am
Re: Jacques Rivette
Official label website says it will only be available in 2012. And the lack of a cover image on both amazon's and absolut medien's site indicates that this is likely.
- Alan Smithee
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Re: Jacques Rivette
Speaking of, I have the italian tv rip of this, anyone know of ANY english .srt subs out there.
- kidc85
- Joined: Tue Jul 15, 2008 1:15 pm
Re: Jacques Rivette
There are subs out there but honestly, I recommend waiting. I watched the bootleg when I thought it was going to be the only possible way to see it. Subjecting yourself to poor image and sound quality with fan subs riding on top of burnt in Italian subs for thirteen hours is a little silly considering it is getting an official release.