Prince (1958-2016)

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Re: Prince (1958-2016)

#201 Post by ando » Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:52 pm

hearthesilence wrote:He had the potential to make groundbreaking dance-pop on the same level as Michael Jackson's Off the Wall, but unfortunately FutureSex/LoveSounds turned out to be a peak rather than a harbinger.
Never saw that kind of vision in him. He does enough to stay on the radar but he's hardly transformative.

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Timberlake explaining away his Superbowl performance on Jimmy Fallon's show. Prince could be corny, too, but damn...


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Re: Prince (1958-2016)

#203 Post by ando » Mon Apr 23, 2018 9:02 pm

Been enjoying the Blast From The Past series; most are 4 disc sets of outakes, extended versions of previously released/album versions and anomalies. 4.0 & 5.0 are standouts.

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Re: Prince (1958-2016)

#204 Post by hearthesilence » Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:30 am

Old news now, but that album will be an informal solo piano & vocal recording from 1983. Unfortunately this recording has been circulating since the '90s, so nothing really new. At least it's in better quality (though it sounds like it's sourced from a cassette, which may be how it was recorded).

Forgot to mention this in my Showgirls post, but I was impressed that not only did it have a good Bowie track ("I'm Afraid of Americans," apparently as a rough mix of a recording from the Earthling sessions - the song would become an official Bowie release two years later), it also had TWO Prince tracks, the best of which was "3121" which appeared on The Gold Experience. I'm not alone in thinking it's a great album, but unfortunately its release was marred by his struggles with Warner Bros. and it fell out-of-print for decades. It was eventually put out on Tidal's streaming service but now Sony has agreed to re-issue it this year as part of a distribution deal that includes 19 previously released album titles originally released between 1995 and 2010.

Other titles to be reissued this year: the excellent Emancipation, the mediocre Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic (keepers: "Prettyman," "The Greatest Romance Ever Sold," "Baby Knows"), the awful The Rainbow Children (keepers: "The Work," "She Loves Me 4 Me") and the excellent 3121, as well as titles originally distributed by Sony including the very good Musicology and somewhat lackluster Planet Earth (keepers: "Chelsea Rodgers," "Guitar," "The One U Wanna C"). Additional album titles from the 2014-2015 era will also be distributed with worldwide rights under the deal in the future.

Starting in 2021, Sony/Legacy’s distribution rights will be expanded to include 12 classic Warner-era non-soundtrack albums including masterpieces like Dirty Mind, 1999 and Sign 'O' the Times but it will not include Purple Rain, Batman, Parade and Graffiti Bridge as they are subject to different terms. (Also missing are a few titles like The Black Album.) The agreement also includes rights to “other previously released material recorded post-1995 including singles, b-sides, remixes, non-album tracks, live recordings and music videos.”

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Re: Prince (1958-2016)

#205 Post by Roger Ryan » Wed Jun 27, 2018 12:02 pm

hearthesilence wrote:
Wed Jun 27, 2018 11:30 am
...Forgot to mention this in my Showgirls post, but I was impressed that not only did it have a good Bowie track ("I'm Afraid of Americans," apparently as a rough mix of a recording from the Earthling sessions - the song would become an official Bowie release two years later)...
The pedantic in me feels the need to comment that "I'm Afraid of Americans" was originally written and recorded for Bowie's 1995 album Outside, so the "rough mix" you're referring to probably came from the sessions for this album, not the later Earthling.

Thanks for the Prince news!

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Re: Prince (1958-2016)

#206 Post by hearthesilence » Wed Jun 27, 2018 12:16 pm

YES, you are right, they used a recording from the Outside sessions, and I actually typed that but I must have made a cut-and-paste mistake when I re-edited that line for clarity. Honestly, how many films prominently feature a good Bowie AND Prince track, and not in a superfluous way?
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Re: Prince (1958-2016)

#207 Post by FrauBlucher » Wed Jun 27, 2018 12:16 pm

Ugh. Have to wait at least three years to get a remastered Sign O’ the Times.

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Re: Prince (1958-2016)

#208 Post by hearthesilence » Wed Jun 27, 2018 12:20 pm

FrauBlucher wrote:
Wed Jun 27, 2018 12:16 pm
Ugh. Have to wait at least three years to get a remastered Sign O’ the Times.
Didn't they reissue it on vinyl recently? I thought those recent Rhino/WB vinyl releases were supposed to sound great. I haven't heard them myself, but I know Purple Rain was done on high quality vinyl from the original masters and by a really good cutting engineer.

Anyway, I wouldn't wait for a remastered digital release - chances are, they're going to compress the hell out of it. I'm hoping I'm wrong but just look at that deluxe 3-disc reissue of Purple Rain - a great package, but the mastering is terrible.
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Re: Prince (1958-2016)

#209 Post by hearthesilence » Wed Jun 27, 2018 12:31 pm

Just checked, it was indeed reissued AND remastered, back in 2016 and it's still available everywhere.

The mastering/cutting engineeer is Kevin Gray, who does a lot of audiophile reissues for Analogue Productions and other specialty labels - he's good, so if vinyl is your format of choice, pick this up. I doubt you can do any better.

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Re: Prince (1958-2016)

#210 Post by FrauBlucher » Wed Jun 27, 2018 8:01 pm

Thanks for info. But not a vinyl collector. I'll have to wait for the CD if it ever comes.

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