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PostPosted: Tue Nov 05, 2013 12:19 pm 
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Film Four is showing another Naruse, Floating Clouds, also in HD, in the same timeslot on Thursday 24th.

I wouldn't be surprised then if When A Woman Ascends The Stairs, the third film from that BFI Naruse set, turns up next Thursday.

When A Woman Ascends The Stairs is getting its UK TV premiere this Thursday 7th November at 11.00 a.m. on Film4.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 4:15 pm 

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Here are the old films on BBC2 over the next 3 weekends:

Sat 9th November:
6.30am Ann Vickers with Irene Dunne. 1933.
7.45am Double Dynamte with Jane Russell. 1951.

Sun 10th November:
6.25am They Won't Believe Me with Susan Hayward. 1947.

Sat 16th November:
7.35am Emergency Call with Jack Warner. 1952.
9.05am The Journey of Natty Gann with Meredith Salenger. 1985 (The first recent film to be shown as part of BBC2's run of early morning films to date)

Sun 17th November:
6.55am The Velvet Touch with Rosalind Russell. 1948 (I'm fairly sure this film was shown recently on BBC2 one Sunday morning during the summer)

Sat 23rd November:
6.50am The Company She Keeps with Lizabeth Scott. 1951.
8.10am The Happiest Days of Your Life with Alastair Sim. 1950.

Sun 24th November:
6.10am Morning Glory with Katharine Hepburn. 1933 (an early RKO pre-code)
7.20am Murder On a Honeymoon with Edna May. 1935 (another early RKO release)

Some good films coming up over the next few weeks on BBC2 and good to see they are showing more films from the early 1930's on 24th November.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 3:32 am 
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STEVEM13 wrote:
Sun 17th November:
6.55am The Velvet Touch with Rosalind Russell. 1948 (I'm fairly sure this film was shown recently on BBC2 one Sunday morning during the summer)


Yes, as recently as 20 October. Thanks for this - I recorded this one but haven't watched it yet. I'll delete it now and rewatch it next week as my digibox is straining for lack of space and threatening to delete things.

Another one which was shown twice this year was The Little Minister, with Katharine Hepburn. I don't know why - were there power cuts or some other reason preventing people from watching them?


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 09, 2013 6:06 pm 

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GaryC wrote:
STEVEM13 wrote:
Sun 17th November:
6.55am The Velvet Touch with Rosalind Russell. 1948 (I'm fairly sure this film was shown recently on BBC2 one Sunday morning during the summer)


Yes, as recently as 20 October. Thanks for this - I recorded this one but haven't watched it yet. I'll delete it now and rewatch it next week as my digibox is straining for lack of space and threatening to delete things.

Another one which was shown twice this year was The Little Minister, with Katharine Hepburn. I don't know why - were there power cuts or some other reason preventing people from watching them?


That's quite strange why BBC2 are repeating the same film in so short space of time. Maybe they are allowed to show the same films from the RKO catalogue multiple times as they have the rights to show them perhaps or maybe the schedulers got a bit lazy. I had wondered when they shown The Little Minister again that maybe they had come to the end of their RKO film screening rights and they were showing them all again from scratch, but obviously not as they are showing more RKO films in the next few weeks which haven't as yet been shown since BBC2 early morning films began in January.

I hope they repeat the Anna Neagle film 'They Flew Alone' again, I really enjoyed that film when it was shown in January, I will ensure I record it when it's next shown.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 7:35 am 
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If you think BBC repeats are bad, C5 showed the Noah Emmerich film '2012' twice in as many weeks.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:17 am 
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Don't blame poor Noah for Roland's sins.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 10:45 am 
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Just wanted to say thank you to those posting in this thread - I check this board more often than the TV schedules, so it's helped me catch some gems I would otherwise have missed. That George Raft thriller, Nocturne, was a particular delight. And The Lost Squadron was a blast too.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 1:47 pm 
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Matt wrote:
Don't blame poor Noah for Roland's sins.


Oops, typo :oops:


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 2:16 pm 
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Really all channels are doing this to some extent. Film4 regularly repeats films a couple of times in a week (for instance The Hindenburg was on last Wednesday afternoon and repeated again this afternoon), or does an early and late showing of certain titles. For instance Monsieur Lazhar got premiered in the 11.00 a.m. Thursday morning slot and then got an 11.45 p.m. Monday evening screening the following week. The same thing happened with My Neighbours The Yamadas. Unfortunately the Naruse films look to have just been left with the single Thursday morning screening for now.

With Channel 5 you'll more often than not see the early evening Sunday film become the early morning Saturday film the next week (as happened with Cloudy With A Chance of Meatballs a couple of weeks ago, or Ghostbusters. 2012 got the 9 p.m. Sunday and then early evening 7 p.m. next Saturday slot instead). They did an interesting thing for the Halloween week when they showed a couple of tame ghostly movies The Ghost of Greville Lodge (which I would have preferred if it were called "Breville Lodge" and involved people being menaced by a ghostly toasted sandwich maker!) and The Canterville Ghost together on the Sunday and then repeated them over a couple of days during their weekday afternoon slot over the next week, which was an interesting maximisation of resources.

I'm more disappointed that, now that I can finally get Channel 5 with the digital switchover, they don't do late night films at all any more! No more Shannon Tweed erotic thrillers, no Russ Meyer films or B-grade actioners starring Mark Dacascos. Instead it is late night roulette games every night instead, which isn't much of a compensation!

Thank goodness for those Canadian-made TV disaster movies that Channel 5 seem to have an endless supply of to pick up the slack! It is occasionally quite surprising to see the actors who pop up in them! (Julia Ormond in Exploding Sun most recently, which made also seeing Ormond in a small role in The East even more serendipitous! The roles are kind of similar too!)


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 4:23 am 
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Ghostbusters is always amusing when it's on TV purely because of whether they'll cut the scene where a ghost ahem, pleasures Dan Aykroyd.


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 4:32 am 
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STEVEM13 wrote:
That's quite strange why BBC2 are repeating the same film in so short space of time. Maybe they are allowed to show the same films from the RKO catalogue multiple times as they have the rights to show them perhaps or maybe the schedulers got a bit lazy. I had wondered when they shown The Little Minister again that maybe they had come to the end of their RKO film screening rights and they were showing them all again from scratch, but obviously not as they are showing more RKO films in the next few weeks which haven't as yet been shown since BBC2 early morning films began in January.


As far as I'm aware the BBC has permanent UK TV rights to the RKO films, as they (and other worldwide broadcasters) bought up a lot of 35mm and 16mm prints when RKO went bust in the 1950s. The rights remain for the life of the prints - which isn't an issue any more as the BBC hasn't broadcast films from actual celluloid prints for more than twenty years. I presume it's Digibeta that they were all transferred to as SD copies, but I could be wrong in that.

There are plenty of other RKO films which haven't been shown yet, so it will be interesting to see what turns up in the coming months. Presumably some of the stronger Pre-Codes might be a bit too risque or un-PC for a morning showing, but anything else the BBC owns could be shown, in theory.

As for The Velvet Touch, there were storms that morning. I certainly had some power cuts here in Aldershot and maybe others did too. So maybe that's the reason for the quick repeat showing.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 1:38 pm 
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Radio On is getting its premiere (34 years after it was made) on Sunday 16th November at 1.20 a.m. - worth catching just for the soundtrack including Kraftwerk and the sight of our lead character meeting up with a guitar strumming petrol station attendant played by Sting in his first acting role!

If you don't want to stay up and/or cannot record it, it is out on a DVD from the BFI!


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 6:58 pm 
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It's frustrating that the majority of these classic films shown on the BBC don't turn up on the iPlayer.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 14, 2013 7:55 pm 
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colinr0380 wrote:
and the sight of our lead character meeting up with a guitar strumming petrol station attendant played by Sting in his first acting role!
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Playing Eddie Cochran's Three Steps to Heaven at that!

Definitely a film that relies on its moody visuals as there isn't much of a narrative to speak of.

However, with the black and white visuals combining with the southern England gloom (not to mention the music), this Anglophile enjoyed it a great deal as a snapshot of a moment in time.

In many ways, it's best to approach it as a long-form music video (with all the benefits and faults that implies).


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:34 am 
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colinr0380 wrote:
Radio On is getting its premiere (34 years after it was made) on Sunday 16th November at 1.20 a.m. - worth catching just for the soundtrack including Kraftwerk and the sight of our lead character meeting up with a guitar strumming petrol station attendant played by Sting in his first acting role!

If you don't want to stay up and/or cannot record it, it is out on a DVD from the BFI!


I reviewed that DVD five years ago and mentioned at the time that I couldn't remember or trace a TV showing. Odd, because it's the sort of thing that would have been a natural for 80s late night Channel 4.

There's a fairly explicit porn slideshow shown about halfway through, though not in closeup (if I remember rightly) that is the reason for the film's 18 certificate, That's something I was a little surprised to see the BBFC pass in 1979, but nowadays no problem - and I doubt that BBC2 would have a problem with it, given that the film starts in the early hours of Sunday morning! (Sunday 17th you mean, by the way.)

It will also be interesting to know whether the BBC leaves the German dialogue unsubtitled as it is on the DVD (and presumably was in the cinema, though I didn't see the film there). The BFI's HOH subtitles do render the German dialogue...in German.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 2:51 am 
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TMDaines wrote:
It's frustrating that the majority of these classic films shown on the BBC don't turn up on the iPlayer.


My guess is that with the old RKO films, the BBC's rights to show them date back to the 1950s and streaming services such as Iplayer aren't covered.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:25 am 
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I think the petrol station scene with Sting is the film at its most Ballardian, with the connection made reminiscing over pop stars dead in car crashes! (Also during an earlier sequence as Bowie's "Crashing In The Same Car" song peters out in the distance look out for the Westway Junction to make an appearance, which is where Ballard's Concrete Island is set),

Sorry about the wrong date - it is on very late Saturday night/first thing early Sunday morning!

I'm not sure that the slideshow is going to be left intact. I'm still smarting over BBC2 making very extreme and damaging edits to their one and only screening of Tetsuo II: Body Hammer (in a 'Forbidden' season no less, which should have provided all the warning a viewer needed!) back in 1997, so I'm cautious about whether BBC2 even late night will have left that scene unedited. Hopefully they do though, as that is really the only scene that deals with the dead brother's work and suggests a reason for his suicide, for being involved in pretty shady stuff!

However the Radio Times listing only warns about strong language.

EDIT: I hope that the BBC does not subtitle the German sections, as I think that the lack of subtitles for the German language sections is completely intended to be another form of alienation and miscommunication, as our main character is as distant and uncomprehending from the German woman as he was from the Scottish deserting soldier earlier on.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:22 pm 
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STEVEM13 wrote:
Sat 16th November:
7.35am Emergency Call with Jack Warner. 1952.
9.05am The Journey of Natty Gann with Meredith Salenger. 1985 (The first recent film to be shown as part of BBC2's run of early morning films to date)


THe EPG on my digibox and BBC2's website indicates a programme change tomorrow. They are now showing Escapade in Japan (1957) at 7.30, with The Journey of Natty Gann now on at 9.00am. An all-Scope double bill, though it remains to be seen if they show either film in 2.35:1.

I'm not sure why Emergency Call has been pulled - anything in the news making it insensitive to show it at this time? Looking at the news and the IMDB synopsis, it's not immediately obvious if that is the case.


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 16, 2013 8:00 pm 
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GaryC wrote:
They are now showing Escapade in Japan (1957) at 7.30, with The Journey of Natty Gann now on at 9.00am. An all-Scope double bill, though it remains to be seen if they show either film in 2.35:1.


They didn't. Both were shown in 16:9.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 8:38 am 
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Radio On was shown with its brief sex and bondage slideshow scene unedited though, which was a bit of a surprise. Watching it again it is amazing how Ballardian some of the film is. For instance the end of the slideshow scene where our main character, having found a picture of his brother and himself in presumably happier times on the projector reel, stands in front of it as if wanting to take the place of his old self is extremely similar to the section in the film of The Atrocity Exhibition in which the main character gets his girlfriend to pose in front of a white wall and then traces her outline in a variety of different positions. That scene in The Atrocity Exhibition eventually results in a lot of ghostly tracings of her body in a range of poses, often overlapping each other, and ties in with the idea in that film that the main character is trying to capture a transient moment of time in a physical manner to both confirm that it existed and to allow him to go back in some ways to interrogate and live in it, however imperfectly. Which is also linking with the stock footage from the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, which also left ghostly imprints of the dead behind to mark one brief, devastating moment of time.

Also Radio On features a fun scene of the main character and the German woman he meets wandering around a car showroom before doing some playacting in one of the parked-up cars!

Beyond Ballard though, I really wonder how much of a debt Lynne Ramsey's film Morvern Callar owes to this film. That is another film about someone propelled after a death into wandering around the landscape listening to a beautifully curated soundtrack of songs that in the circumstances she is right to not be aesthetically responding to, or tapping her foot over!


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 17, 2013 2:29 pm 

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A couple of interesting 1940s films in Film4's Monday morning slot at 11am:
- Tomorrow, 18th Nov: De Toth's Dark Waters
- Monday, 25th Nov: Repeat Performance (1947), a film I've been trying to see for decades!


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 3:53 pm 

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Yes it's very odd that Emergency Call was pulled from last Saturday morning schedule like that. Perhaps there was a last minute licencing issue or something.

Here are the old films on BBC2 over the next three weeks:

Sat Sat 23rd November:
6.50am The Company She Keeps. 1951.
8.10am The Happiest Days of Your Life. 1950.

Sun 24th November:
6.10am Morning Glory. 1933.
7.20am Murder on a Honeymoon. 1935.

Sat 30th November:
7.00am Dean Spanley. 2008. (Very surprised to see this film scheduled, the first recent film to be shown in this slot to date!)
8.35am On the Town. 1949.

Sun 1st December:
7.05am Battle Cry. 1955.

Sat 7th December:
7.10am The Stars Look Down. 1939.
8.45am The Captive Heart. 1946.

Sun 8th December:
6.40am The Mouse That Roared. 1959.

Here's hoping we get regular RKO double bills over the Christmas period.


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 10, 2013 6:44 am 

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STEVEM13 wrote:
Here's hoping we get regular RKO double bills over the Christmas period.

The Saturday and Sunday slots have been dropped completely (or at least suspended) in favour of endless episodes of Antiques Road Trip.

Disney's original Fantasia finally gets its UK TV premiere on BBC2 (Christmas Eve, 4.15pm) but of course now that the film is easily available commercially, it's not the big deal it would have been 20 or 30 years ago, when I was trying to piece it together on VHS from the various extracts on Bank Holiday editions of Disney Time!

A clutch of 1950s Hammers are on BBC2, presumably in the recent restorations as they are showing in HD:
Dracula (27 Dec, 12.10am)
The Mummy (28 Dec, 1.15am)
The Curse of Frankenstein (29 Dec, 12.40am)
The Abominable Snowman (30 Dec, 2.00am)

But I found far less of interest than in last year's Christmas TV schedules. The BBC4 and Film4 line-ups seem particularly dull.


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:14 am 
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I wouldn't get any hopes up about HD meaning anything. Walkabout was shown in HD and is available on iPlayer in HD and it looks dreadful!


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 6:50 am 

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Great news, the early morning films are returning to BBC2 after Christmas (strange why they aren't on over the Christmas period).

Here are the films scheduled for the first two weekends in the New Year:

Sat 4th Jan 2014 (a double bill of new films probably due to it being the first weekend after New Year):
6.05am My Fake Fiance. 2009.
7.30am Stick It. 2006.

Sun 5th Jan 2014:
6.10am Odette with Anna Neagle. 1950.

Sat 11th Jan 2014:
6.30am The Informer. 1935 (an early RKO film)
7.55am I Married a Witch with Fredric March. 1942.

Sun 12th Jan 2014:
6.40am A Woman's Secret with Maureen O'Hara. 1949.

Great to see BBC2 showing 'The Informer' on Sat 11th Jan. I think this could be another premiere but not sure. Great way to start the new year. I just wish BBC2 would have shown more of these gems over Christmas instead of showing repeats of Natural World and Antiques Road Trip.


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