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Re: Recent Film Restorations

#401 Post by Stefan Andersson » Mon May 25, 2020 5:52 am

Technical info on UCLA´s Laurel & Hardy restorations, including foreign-language versions and a fragment of The Rogue Song:
https://www.cinema.ucla.edu/support/laurel-and-hardy

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Re: Recent Film Restorations

#402 Post by andyli » Tue May 26, 2020 7:06 am

Isn't The Last Emperor already 4K restored? What's the point of doing it all over?

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Re: Recent Film Restorations

#403 Post by tenia » Tue May 26, 2020 7:56 am

IIRC, the previous restoration was performed for the 3D conversion with a 2.00 format. And (again IIRC) isn't very good looking.

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Re: Recent Film Restorations

#404 Post by The Fanciful Norwegian » Tue May 26, 2020 1:09 pm

The 3D version was 2.39:1, but from screencaps it looks (as you say) pretty bad. Here's a comparison of the Chinese and Italian BDs sourced from that restoration; the brightness on the Italian disc can be chalked up to the fact that it's meant to be watched in 3D, but the even greater brightness on the Chinese disc is absurd given that it's a 2D-only release.

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Re: Recent Film Restorations

#405 Post by cowboydan » Thu May 28, 2020 4:05 am

The Last Emperor needs to be released in its OAR. Why didn't Criterion do that in the first place? There is plenty of information that was cropped out.
https://caps-a-holic.com/c.php?go=1&a=0 ... 27&i=8&l=0

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Re: Recent Film Restorations

#406 Post by isakorg2 » Thu May 28, 2020 7:19 am

Absolutely! Frankly, I think the film was ruined by its Criterion AR, Bertolucci & Storaro approval be damned. I also prefer the longer version even if BB didn't.

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Re: Recent Film Restorations

#407 Post by yoloswegmaster » Thu May 28, 2020 8:32 am

Blaming Criterion for Vittorio Storaro's insistence on changing the aspect ratio is hilarious.

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Re: Recent Film Restorations

#408 Post by MichaelB » Fri May 29, 2020 3:54 am

Arrow deliberately chose not to work with Storaro when they recently restored The Bird with the Crystal Plumage to its correct theatrical 2.35:1.

Just sayin’.

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Re: Recent Film Restorations

#409 Post by yoloswegmaster » Fri May 29, 2020 7:14 am

Almost as if Arrow had years inbetween the releases of Last Emperor and Bird with Crystal Plumage to learn that Storaro was fucking around with the AR. Also, was Criterion in charge of the transfer for their release or was that transfer from another company?

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#410 Post by dwk » Fri May 29, 2020 10:31 am

I believe the master was from the rightsholder. In any event, both Bertolucci and Jeremy Thomas signed off on Storaro's nonsense and Criterion had to use it.

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Re: Recent Film Restorations

#411 Post by isakorg2 » Fri May 29, 2020 11:30 am

Dear yolowegmaster,

Re my previous comment about the film being "ruined by its Criterion AR" and your finding it "hilarious" that anyone would (ignorantly seems to be implied) blame Criterion for what was done at the insistence of Vittorio Storaro.

First of all, I have been well aware, since the initial Criterion release of the film, that the driver of that disc's unfortunate AR choice was Storaro. Secondly, I did not, as you state, "blame" Criterion for the AR choice.

"The film was ruined by its Criterion AR" is not the same as "Criterion ruined the film with its AR choice". In the latter construction, "Criterion" is a noun, the subject of the sentence, "ruined" is the transitive verb that describes what the subject of the sentence did, and "film" is the direct object, the receiver of the subject's action. THAT is blame. But it's not what I wrote.

In what I did write - the first construction - Criterion is no longer a proper noun or the subject of a sentence. It is an adjectival modifier - a word, phrase, etc., used attributively, that restricts or adds to the sense of a head noun. In plainer English, this means something that identifies the AR in question: the Criterion AR, as opposed to the OAR or the AR on the previous U.S. release of the film from Artisan. In retrospect, it would have been better to use "2.0 AR"; but as it stands, the construction of the sentence does not assign blame to Criterion, nor was it meant to.

All this aside, I had figured that The Last Emperor had seen its last material incarnation in the Criterion blu-ray; so this all is good news. On that I think we can all agree.

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Re: Recent Film Restorations

#412 Post by Stefan Andersson » Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:14 am

Restorations showing at the 2020 Taiwan International Documentary Festival:
https://www.tidf.org.tw/en/category/shows2018/5326

Restorations showing at the 2020 Taipei Film Festival:
https://www.taipeiff.taipei/program-list.aspx?cid=92

The restored (and newly re-scored) city symphony film "a Morning in Taipei" (1964) is showing at both festivals.

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Re: Recent Film Restorations

#413 Post by tenia » Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:23 am

I've seen The Mountain and The End of the Track restorations earlier this year. Both looked quite fine.

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Re: Recent Film Restorations

#414 Post by The Fanciful Norwegian » Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:49 am

Stefan Andersson wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:14 am
Restorations showing at the 2020 Taiwan International Documentary Festival:
https://www.tidf.org.tw/en/category/shows2018/5326
These are actually from the 2018 festival. The 2020 installment has been postponed to next year (when there normally wouldn't have been a festival, since it's only held once every two years). They'd announced the lineup before the postponement but apparently hadn't gotten around to producing an English version of the program; here's the Chinese version. The planned repertory screenings were films by Volker Koepp, Takamine Gō, Jonas Mekas, Larry Gottheim, and Joyce Wieland, but I can't tell if there were any new restorations among these.
tenia wrote:
Thu Jun 18, 2020 11:23 am
I've seen The Mountain and The End of the Track restorations earlier this year. Both looked quite fine.
The screener I have for The End of the Track is in pretty rough shape and the TFI actually told me up front it isn't a restoration, just a more-or-less direct scan of the print the director had been storing in his house for decades. Lots of damage throughout (though mostly just dirt and assorted specks, no massive tears or anything like that) and it looks to have been heavily cropped on the sides so that the English subtitles are often cut off (though it's always possible to fill in the gaps from context). Restoration or not, it's a rediscovery for sure and especially startling in light of Mou's later career as an exploitation filmmaker. I very much want to see his previous feature I Didn't Dare to Tell You and hope they both get some sort of release, even if it's DVD-only like the rest of the TFI's home-video output to date.

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Re: Recent Film Restorations

#415 Post by tenia » Thu Jun 18, 2020 12:14 pm

IIRC, the copy of The End of the Track I saw didn't have English subs, but only newly made French subtitles. It didn't particularly seemed cropped. It did look a tad dirty, and possibly slightly DNRed, but nothing egregious. It definitely looked like a new master in any case, but I can certainly imagine this isn't a fully fledged restoration work.

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Re: Recent Film Restorations

#416 Post by The Fanciful Norwegian » Thu Jun 18, 2020 2:43 pm

That's very strange—the screener has Chinese and English subtitles that were clearly ingrained on the print (as on this screencap). Perhaps a better copy without ingrained subs turned up afterwards, but the scan was carried out in 2017 so that only leaves a couple of years in which one could've been found. Alternatively they could've gone back later and done a full restoration, including the removal of the ingrained subtitles. (I also misremembered the circumstances of the film's rediscovery: the TFI started looking for copies of it and I Didn't Dare to Tell You a few years ago and found them right under their nose, Mou having donated his prints to the archive in 2000; the big challenge was tracking him down for permission to scan them and hold screenings.)

On the subject of Taiwanese restorations, the Far East Film Festival's upcoming virtual edition (from June 26th through July 4th) includes the new restoration of Hou's Cheerful Wind, which will be available for streaming worldwide.

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Re: Recent Film Restorations

#417 Post by Calvin » Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:43 am

Calvin wrote:
Wed May 23, 2018 3:46 am
The outcome of the CNC's March meeting have been posted. Worth highlighting/bolding/screaming from the rooftops - Gaumont will be restoring Feuillade's Tih Minh
I know Gaumont are active on some French forums; would anyone be able to enquire with them as to the status of the Tih Minh restoration and when we might finally see a release?

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Re: Recent Film Restorations

#418 Post by schellenbergk » Tue Jun 30, 2020 9:15 am

Stefan Andersson wrote:
Thu Nov 21, 2019 3:07 pm
For the record --
a link to the line-up of restorations in this year´s NYFF:
https://www.filmlinc.org/nyff2019/sections/revivals/
Includes new 4K restos of Jazz on a Summer´s Day and The Incredible Shrinking Man, plus Dodsworth (Wyler), shorts by Paradjanov and Vittorio de Seta, two films by Djibril Diop Mambéty, Zurlini´s Le Professeur (restored to 132 minutes) and others.
The "Jazz on a Summer´s Day" restoration showed up on TCM with a Kino-Lorber logo and (very) long restoration credits at the end. It looked great - I hope this will be forthcoming from KL. It's a great jazz film.

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