Arrow Announcements, Speculation & Wild, Irresponsible Conjecture

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Re: Arrow Announcements, Speculation & Wild, Irresponsible Conjecture

#1151 Post by Glowingwabbit » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:08 am

Arrow Academy has really scaled back their releases

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#1152 Post by swo17 » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:21 am

How on earth was that hat clue relevant?

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#1153 Post by Dr Amicus » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:51 am

swo17 wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:21 am
How on earth was that hat clue relevant?
You wear a hat on your head - and a face is part of a head?

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#1154 Post by reaky » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:01 am

Image

I guess it’s this. But seriously, I’d have preferred Blackhat to either of these. I mean, Bells of St Mary’s?

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#1155 Post by Calvin » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:17 am

Is Arrow licencing from Paramount now?

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#1156 Post by dwk » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:21 am

I believe they've released a couple other Republic titles and/or Paramount titles that they've been willing to license to Kino/Olive in the US, but nothing along the lines of the stuff they've licensed to Criterion or, in the past, Eureka/MoC.

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#1157 Post by dda1996a » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:58 am

It feels like forever since Arrow announced something worthwhile to be honest. Where are the days of Yoshida, Godard in the 60s, Rivette and Rohmer? Or at the very least Irma Vep...

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#1158 Post by swo17 » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:02 pm

Khrustalyov, My Car!, demonlover, Phantom Lady, and the Jissoji set (which, granted, is a holdover from last year) are all exciting releases this year

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#1159 Post by dda1996a » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:04 pm

That's true, but again, I remember when every month I was more excited for Arrow than Criterion. Seems less so nowadays

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#1160 Post by Drucker » Fri Jul 12, 2019 12:58 pm

I could be wrong, but it seems a lot of the people that did work on BFI/MOC releases until 2013 or so then focused on Arrow releases and are now focused on Indicator...Quality of people more than quality of the label itself has always been my thinking...

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#1161 Post by Calvin » Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:00 pm

I was always under the impression that the producers didn't/don't have much influence over acquisitions and Fran Simeoni is still label director. It certainly feels like the label has become less adventurous since 2015/16 though - I think Mélo is the only foreign-language title that has been announced this year, with the exception of the delayed Jissoji set?

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#1162 Post by Glowingwabbit » Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:02 pm

You are forgetting Khrustalyov, My Car! And demonlover

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#1163 Post by Calvin » Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:03 pm

You're right, I did forget demonlover; Khrustalyov was announced last year however.

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#1164 Post by Glowingwabbit » Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:09 pm

Melo was announced at the same time. I thought you were talking about 2019 releases.

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#1165 Post by Calvin » Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:23 pm

Glowingwabbit wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:09 pm
Melo was announced at the same time. I thought you were talking about 2019 releases.
Apologies, you're entirely right. I think I got mixed up due to Khrustalyov's theatrical re-release. Either way, if we do look at 2019's foreign language output so far it is definitely a decrease on previous years.

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#1166 Post by Glowingwabbit » Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:29 pm

Agreed. I'm wondering if the budgets on the Academy side have been slashed. Arrow Video is still doing plenty of releases (non-english titles as well)

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#1167 Post by domino harvey » Fri Jul 12, 2019 2:44 pm

These two films are among the worst movies to ever come out of studio era Hollywood. Who the hell is making these acquisition decisions?

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#1168 Post by FrauBlucher » Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:33 pm

swo17 wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:21 am
How on earth was that hat clue relevant?
Look what we pulled out of the hat

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#1169 Post by CSM126 » Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:35 pm

It’s a hat you wear on your ass, because only an asshat would pick these movies.

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#1170 Post by ianungstad » Fri Jul 12, 2019 5:54 pm

What's odd to me is that Arrow probably licensed Man with a Thousand Faces because they have an interest in Lon Chaney. Universal has many of the major Lon Chaney films in their library, so why not put the effort into a legit classic? It's not like Kino or Criterion are releasing these (or any other Universal silent films). There was legit opportunity to do something major.

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#1171 Post by The Fanciful Norwegian » Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:02 pm

I doubt Universal has elements for any of their Cheney films, major or minor. Man of a Thousand Faces probably has an existing HD-ready master and could be accessed through an ongoing licensing deal, so it's a simpler proposition than trying to obtain something like Hunchback from Film Preservation Associates or whoever.

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#1172 Post by andyli » Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:11 pm

Drucker wrote:I could be wrong, but it seems a lot of the people that did work on BFI/MOC releases until 2013 or so then focused on Arrow releases and are now focused on Indicator...Quality of people more than quality of the label itself has always been my thinking...
But Indicator doesn't even do non-English release and only deals with a couple of Studios. It cannot cover MoC/BFI/Arrow's ground.

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#1173 Post by nitin » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:15 pm

The Fanciful Norwegian wrote:
Fri Jul 12, 2019 8:02 pm
I doubt Universal has elements for any of their Cheney films, major or minor. Man of a Thousand Faces probably has an existing HD-ready master and could be accessed through an ongoing licensing deal, so it's a simpler proposition than trying to obtain something like Hunchback from Film Preservation Associates or whoever.
The specs indicate an Arrow in house restoration though. So it’s not going to be using any existing HD master.

Apart from the choices becoming pretty generic, the overall Academy output has decreased significantly which is weird because when they expanded the Academy range into the US, Fran Simeoni had said they would be increasing the Academy output.

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#1174 Post by domino harvey » Fri Jul 12, 2019 10:20 pm

I think the grim truth is, as shown by the countless boutique labels putting out similar releases, the junk on the Video label outsells the Academy titles so they allocate more resources there

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#1175 Post by nitin » Fri Jul 12, 2019 11:20 pm

Don’t doubt that, that has been the case for years (as you say look at the output of countless other boutique labels), just find it odd that it has happened not long after the Academy expansion into the US.

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