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#1 Post by lubitsch » Sun Aug 27, 2006 2:58 pm

Transit Lubitsch box

The titles are DIE BERGKATZE (1921), DIE AUSTERNPRINZESSIN (1919), ICH MÖCHTE KEIN MANN SEIN (1918), SUMURUN (1920) and ANNA BOLEYN (1920).

I guess they are saving DIE PUPPE and MADAME DUBARRY for a next box.
BTW, CLUNY BROWN and THAT LADY IN HERMINE get a release in Germany.

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#2 Post by Rufus T. Firefly » Tue Aug 29, 2006 3:34 am

lubitsch wrote:Transit Lubitsch box
Kino will be releasing these in a set in R1 in early December, according to one of their employees who regularly posts at alt.movies.silent.

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#3 Post by htdm » Tue Aug 29, 2006 4:14 am

Here's the post:
Ok I have been dropping hints long enough about Kino releasing some Great silents that were not in the catalogue so now the cat is out of
the bag. We are putting out a series of Lubitsch German silents through
Transit & Murnau Stiftung foundation . They are as follows

THE OYSTER PRINCESS with the short I DON'T WANT TO BE A MAN
SUMURUN aka ONE ARBIAN NIGHT
ANNA BOLYEN aka DECEPTION
THE WILDCAT

Yes I know everyone would like more and different ones but this is it
for starters. Buy these and maybe we can put out more. Release is scheduled for early Dec so put them on your holiday gift
list. Order early and often
and in a later post she (Jessica) wrote:
I promise if these do well enough it [Die Puppe] will be in the NEXT group.

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#4 Post by Matt » Tue Aug 29, 2006 2:21 pm

Rufus T. Firefly wrote:Kino will be releasing these in a set in R1 in early December, according to one of their employees who regularly posts at alt.movies.silent.
You can practically guarantee that Kino will not release these as a nice, affordable set. Just like the recent Haneke releases (which every other country got/is getting in a set), they will be available individually only at the usual $30 price point. And they'll be unconverted PAL transfers.

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#5 Post by dadaistnun » Tue Aug 29, 2006 2:49 pm

Matt wrote:
Rufus T. Firefly wrote:Kino will be releasing these in a set in R1 in early December, according to one of their employees who regularly posts at alt.movies.silent.
You can practically guarantee that Kino will not release these as a nice, affordable set. Just like the recent Haneke releases (which every other country got/is getting in a set), they will be available individually only at the usual $30 price point. And they'll be unconverted PAL transfers.
Maybe they will put one together at at later date, ala their Kieslowski and Film Noir: The Dark Side of Hollywood sets.

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#6 Post by HerrSchreck » Tue Aug 29, 2006 11:16 pm

You can practically guarantee that Kino will not release these as a nice, affordable set. Just like the recent Haneke releases (which every other country got/is getting in a set), they will be available individually only at the usual $30 price point. And they'll be unconverted PAL transfers
Never know-- they may do both, as with Lang, Kieslowski, Murnau, etc etc and "German Horror Classics". And if youre paying 30 bucks for a Kino (or a low-tier CC, or 39.95 for their SE's)... that would be surprising coming from a tuned-in dude like you Matt.

Yeah, unpreconverted. Probably. The usual silent film go-round regarding imported masters. Someday someone will come up with a way to run telecine once, and from that go-thru, create an intermediate form of storage whereby both protocols can be extracted from the single run.

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#7 Post by peerpee » Wed Aug 30, 2006 6:39 am

HerrSchreck wrote:Someday someone will come up with a way to run telecine once, and from that go-thru, create an intermediate form of storage whereby both protocols can be extracted from the single run.
It already exists. HD telecine at 24p is neither PAL nor NTSC. That's the beauty of it, and that's why everyone doing telecine today should be working in HD 24p.

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#8 Post by david hare » Wed Aug 30, 2006 7:06 am

Exactly - this is why Studio Canal's announcement of it's HD-DVD format titles as 24fps/48hz signals the death throes for PAL 50hz 25fps and NTSC/60hz 30 fps (with 3:2 pulldown) -- all OVERR!!!

That's of course a part of the tech of HD players and HD capable displays.

THIS is the potential revolution with HD-DVD. Not to mention the PQ. 24 Frame film speed. No MORE PAL and NTSC.

Now we all sit around and chant and pray an stick pins in dolls of Michael Eisner they'll ALL do this.

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#9 Post by HerrSchreck » Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:21 pm

If only... dreams... prayers... standard, non-HD DVD format... one sees, (gulp).. unghosted silent imports when progressive... primokinos.. milestone Milestones... real corker NewYorker's... no more cornball posts like this.. perchance to dream.

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#10 Post by godardslave » Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:09 am

HerrSchreck wrote:If only... dreams... prayers... standard, non-HD DVD format... one sees, (gulp).. unghosted silent imports when progressive... primokinos.. milestone Milestones... real corker NewYorker's... no more cornball posts like this.. perchance to dream.
steady yourself!

real corker NewYorker's is my absolute favorite bit of that post. :)

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#11 Post by david hare » Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:36 am

godardslave wrote:
HerrSchreck wrote:If only... dreams... prayers... standard, non-HD DVD format... one sees, (gulp).. unghosted silent imports when progressive... primokinos.. milestone Milestones... real corker NewYorker's... no more cornball posts like this.. perchance to dream.
steady yourself!

real corker NewYorker's is my absolute favorite bit of that post. :)
Schreck forgot the Poxy Lorbers.

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#12 Post by HerrSchreck » Thu Aug 31, 2006 1:01 am

godardslave wrote:real corker NewYorker's is my absolute favorite bit of that post. :)
That's because Confusing & Open-ended = High Art!

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#13 Post by godardslave » Thu Aug 31, 2006 1:34 am

HerrSchreck wrote:
godardslave wrote:real corker NewYorker's is my absolute favorite bit of that post. :)
That's because Confusing & Open-ended = High Art!
ah, so true my friend, so true. :wink:

I wonder what genius said that.

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#14 Post by HerrSchreck » Thu Aug 31, 2006 2:00 am

Isn't that on Tarkovsky's tombstone?

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#15 Post by godardslave » Thu Aug 31, 2006 1:45 pm

HerrSchreck wrote:Isn't that on Tarkovsky's tombstone?
A quick google reveals that
...visited Tarkovsky's grave in a Russian orthodox cemetary at Saint-Genvieve des Bois. The Russian neutrino physicist who showed me where it was, because he wanted the company of a good walker and fellow alchoholic while visiting the grave of Ivan Bunin, who was also buried there, translated the inscription on Tarkovsky's tombstone as "In Memory of a Man who saw an Angel."
:wink:

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#16 Post by htdm » Sat Dec 02, 2006 8:29 pm

Does anyone know:
*if the German box has subs, and
*what material is included on the 6th bonus disc?

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#17 Post by HerrSchreck » Sun Dec 03, 2006 2:51 am

Not sure but if past history is any guide they most likely will not-- none of their silents are english subbed or I'd own approx 25% less Kino's.
From this dvd link
Extras:
Inhalt: Anna Boleyn, Die Austernprinzessin, Die Bergkatze, Ich möchte kein Mann sein, Sumurun, Dokumentation:Ernst Lubitsch in Berlin - Von der Schönhauser Allee nach Hollywood
Looks like there's a doc tacked in there i e DOCUMENTARY: Dokumentation:Ernst Lubitsch in Berlin - from the Schoenhauser avenue to Hollywood

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#18 Post by htdm » Sun Dec 03, 2006 3:25 am

Thanks for that HS. I wasn't sure if that referred to some kind of printed documentation or what. I'm tempted to pick up the German box just for the 6th disc alone.

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#19 Post by HerrSchreck » Sun Dec 03, 2006 3:32 am

If I understood Deutsche well enough I'd be right there with you-- guess Kino dropped the doc as they seem unsure how this one's going to sell so didn't do their own english version like they did for their Lang (METROP)& Murnau's (HERR TARTUFFE). On the alt.silent.film thread they mentioned if this bunch sells well they'll be bringing out a "next" bunch with DIE PUPPE (one of my most long awaited & unseen Lubitsch's).

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#20 Post by Ledos » Mon Dec 04, 2006 2:54 am

HerrSchreck wrote:Not sure but if past history is any guide they most likely will not-- none of their silents are english subbed or I'd own approx 25% less Kino's.
All Transit's past silent releases have English subtitles (except for Der Golem, which instead contains a version with English intertitles). But according to online retailers the Lubitsch set does not. A big mistake by Transit/Murnau Foundation if that information is correct.

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#21 Post by HerrSchreck » Mon Dec 04, 2006 3:17 am

Don't mess with me Ledos-- it's late here in my hemisphere, and I'm tired and may faint if there were eng-intertitled German alternatives to my German library. So few actual "TRansit Classics" editions. Most German silent & early talkie product put out by Transit on the UFA Klassiker line:

Lady WIndemere's Fan

And the Lubitsch we're all talking about.

Lang

Blue Angel

Westfront

Kameradschaft

La Habanera

SOS EISBERG

3 von TANKSTELLE

TESTAMENT

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#22 Post by Ledos » Mon Dec 04, 2006 3:44 am

Okay, those titles on the UFA Klassiker label do not contain English options. But the Lubitsch set is released in the regular Transit Classics line as far as I know.

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#23 Post by Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Dec 04, 2006 4:33 am

The one on-line retailer site I can find which mentions the subtitles on the Lubitsch box says "subtitles: keine". I guess that means none.

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#24 Post by Tommaso » Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:28 am

Ledos wrote:Okay, those titles on the UFA Klassiker label do not contain English options.
The UFA Klassiker Edition generally is quite bad, sadly. They produced a really horrible transfer of the glorious "Der Kongress tanzt", for example. "Kameradschaft" is wrongly framed. They put it out in 1.33, but it's almost definitely 1.19 as many early talkies, and the result is that a lot of heads are chopped off and the framing in general looks too tight. Apart from that the materials are in bad need of restoration. The epilogue of the film was put in from a French version of the film, and becuase that obviously had French subtitles burnt in, these are now 'burnt out' using a huge and awful black bar at the bottom of the frame. "Lady Windermere" fares better, but is still a far cry from good (and the film itself also is not necessarily a must have). No subs or significant extras, too.
"SOS Eisberg", surprisingly, is quite acceptable, though, especially when compared to some of the Fancks from 101 films.

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#25 Post by HerrSchreck » Mon Dec 04, 2006 6:36 am

I'm guessing what Ledos wanted to say is the dedicated "Transit Classics" line have english subs-- perhaps they do.. if anything other than a couple obvious drips (DER LETZE, METROP, GOLEM) come out every five years, they'll indeed stop being the freaking lost ark and therefore become a viable alternative in r1 to Transit's usual route to the German market-- the English-unusable UFA Klassiker line.

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