Histoire(s) du Cinema

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Arn777
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#1 Post by Arn777 » Thu Sep 01, 2005 4:31 pm

A couple of French websites have listed Histoire(s) du Cinema on the Gaumont planning for November 8th. No more details are available at present, but Gaumont usually does not include English subtitles. It is interesting that they are finally releasing it on DVD, given the potential copyright issues and that means that it could potentially be released by other companies in English speaking countries further down the line.

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#2 Post by ellipsis7 » Thu Sep 01, 2005 5:07 pm

Apparently the principle of limited quotation permissable in a work of criticism is the the copyright loophole that HISTOIRE(S) gets through... That and the fact it's Godard and there appears to be an implicit consensus to overlook possible infringement.... i.e. what would be the point?

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#3 Post by backstreetsbackalright » Thu Sep 01, 2005 5:33 pm

If this pans out, it's very good news indeed!

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#4 Post by subliminac » Thu Sep 01, 2005 6:18 pm

This is scheduled to play November 4 and 11 at the Wexner Center in Columbus Ohio. Real tears of joy when I saw that one! If this is getting a state side release I would think a DVD would have to follow.

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#5 Post by backstreetsbackalright » Thu Sep 01, 2005 7:41 pm

subliminac wrote:This is scheduled to play November 4 and 11 at the Wexner Center in Columbus Ohio. Real tears of joy when I saw that one! If this is getting a state side release I would think a DVD would have to follow.
I know almost nothing about Wexner, but it seems like you guys always get crazy cool stuff there. Marker, Akerman, Histoires.... You make me jealous.

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#6 Post by otis » Thu Sep 15, 2005 4:01 pm

A couple of French websites have listed Histoire(s) du Cinema on the Gaumont planning for November 8th.
Could you post links to the French websites?

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#7 Post by Arn777 » Sat Sep 17, 2005 7:21 pm

Knowing Gaumont, it is very likely that it won't show up on the 8th of November, but sometimes next year.

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#8 Post by otis » Tue Sep 27, 2005 6:19 pm

No sign of Histoire(s) on amazon.fr, but fnac.com has it as a 4-DVD set released 8th November for 52,59 €.

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#9 Post by Subbuteo » Thu Oct 06, 2005 1:43 pm

Its up now at Amazon.fr. Not much in the way of details but nice price!

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#10 Post by BrightEyes23 » Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:43 pm

are we sure there'll be no subtitles on this?

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#11 Post by otis » Thu Oct 13, 2005 9:57 am

BrightEyes23 wrote:are we sure there'll be no subtitles on this?
Post from Top Five:

I emailed Gaumont to ask if the forthcoming dvds of Histoire(s) would have subtitles in English and received this one-word reply:
Oui.
Still nothing on their website though.

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#12 Post by zedz » Thu Oct 13, 2005 8:16 pm

Oui.
Formidable. (Peut-etre. . .)

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#13 Post by shirobamba » Fri Oct 14, 2005 7:36 am

Now I´m a bit confused. The Master of Cinema calendar lists the forthcoming Godard box as w/out subs. This forum thread says NO SUBS, too. The actual thread confirms: subs: oui! What´s the truth?

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#14 Post by Donald Brown » Fri Oct 14, 2005 9:05 am

To the best of my knowledge, Gaumont has never issued a DVD with English subs. I suspect there's either been a miscommunication or they're simply lying to snare a sale.

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#15 Post by peerpee » Fri Oct 14, 2005 9:30 am

If Gaumont are saying it will have English subtitles then, as far as I can see, and correct me if I'm wrong, but this is the most accurate and uptodate information any of us have.

Because HISTOIRES is such a large project, and because Artificial Eye are working on it too, it's quite conceivable that they're pooling their resources and working together on one set of PAL masters (a la Artificial Eye and MK2 with the Bresson releases, or Tartan and Blaq Out with TWENTYNINE PALMS for example).

We've changed the listing on the MoC Calendar to indicate that Gaumont are saying it will have English subs.

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#16 Post by hellboytr » Sun Oct 30, 2005 1:07 pm

The e-mail i recently got from a Jean-Pierre Samuelson from Gaumont :

Will your upcoming Historie(s) du Cinema DVD of Godard carry English subtitles?
Yes !

Merci

Gaumont Site Internet

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#17 Post by Oedipax » Sun Oct 30, 2005 5:38 pm

This has been a great year for Godard on DVD! I hope we continue to see new titles - does anyone know if Raro Video is still planning to release Hail Mary in December? That should be the definitive copy.

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#18 Post by GringoTex » Thu Nov 03, 2005 9:59 am

peerpee wrote:Because HISTOIRES is such a large project, and because Artificial Eye are working on it too, it's quite conceivable that they're pooling their resources and working together on one set of PAL masters (a la Artificial Eye and MK2 with the Bresson releases, or Tartan and Blaq Out with TWENTYNINE PALMS for example).
Do you think AE will have better English subs (as that would be their market) than the Gaumont version? If so, it would seem the only sensible thing for us English speakers to do is wait for the AE version.

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#19 Post by ellipsis7 » Fri Nov 04, 2005 3:38 am

Yes- the big issue is how to subtitle as there are usually several layers of text going on at the same time. Voicover/synch sound/graphic slogans etc... For instance the books accompanying the ECM cd soundtrack release in 1999 contain incomplete transcriptions...

Possibly the most comprehensive English subtitle solution was for Parts 1a and 1b (in their form of 1993) for a Channel 4 version subtitled by Orna Kustow (who retains copyright in her version)...

Parts 1a & 1b have evolved since, so these probably could not be used on a DVD release in 2005/6... Whichever way, it would have to be a mammoth effort of labour and love on the part of Gaumont (and indeed AE) to do this project justice!

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#20 Post by Andre Jurieu » Thu Nov 10, 2005 3:45 pm

So which segments are being included in this (or the AE) release?

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#21 Post by otis » Thu Nov 10, 2005 5:43 pm

Andre Jurieu wrote:So which segments are being included in this (or the AE) release?
The lot. It's a 4-disc set, so presumably there'll be two episodes on each disc:
1A: Toutes les histoire(s)
1B: Une histoire seule
2A: Seul le cinéma
2B: Fatale beauté
3A: La monnaie de l'absolu
3B: Une vague nouvelle
4A: Le contrôle de l'univers
4B: Les signes parmi nous

Total running time: 315 minutes? Still nothing on Gaumont's site though.

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#22 Post by Arn777 » Thu Nov 10, 2005 7:11 pm

The street date is now the 23rd. As I said before I really doubt it will be out at that date, or even this side of X-mas, knowing Gaumont.

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#23 Post by Barmy » Wed Nov 16, 2005 12:54 pm

I didn't think this merited its own thread, but I thought I would note that "Comment ça va?" is coming out on DVD in Japan on 11/25. You can get it at amazon.jp.

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#24 Post by godardslave » Wed Nov 16, 2005 3:00 pm

Barmy wrote:I didn't think this merited its own thread, but I thought I would note that "Comment ça va?" is coming out on DVD in Japan on 11/25. You can get it at amazon.jp.
Im liking the cover. does it have english subs?

I know, I know...I should learn french.
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#25 Post by Barmy » Wed Nov 16, 2005 3:28 pm

It is highly unlikely that the Japanese DVD will have English subs. It is amazing how many Godard films are available exclusively in Japan, including the elusive Le Vent D'est.

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