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Godard on DVD and Blu-ray

#1 Post by Dylan » Tue Feb 08, 2005 3:18 pm

More Godard:
Browsing on Play.com, I found these, due for release in May: Detective and La Chinoise
Not sure who's putting them out, but at the moment, I don't care - having them available on DVD is great in itself.[/quote]
La Chinoise! With this, Masculin/Feminin, Two or Three Things, and Week End, this is absolutely the greaest year for R2 Godard releases.

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#2 Post by The Fanciful Norwegian » Tue Feb 08, 2005 3:54 pm

La Chinoise
Finally, I can delete my crappy eDonkey bootleg with incomprehensible Engrish subtitles.

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#3 Post by solent » Tue Feb 08, 2005 8:49 pm

Someone mentioned this two weeks ago but I found no confirmation. This looks sound. Now we need A MARRIED WOMAN.] The only thing to watch out for with this DVD of LA CHINOISE is the quality.

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#4 Post by Oedipax » Tue Feb 08, 2005 8:59 pm

The Fanciful Norwegian wrote:
La Chinoise
Finally, I can delete my crappy eDonkey bootleg with incomprehensible Engrish subtitles.
Haha. I was so excited about this initially, then I ended up not even watching the film, the subs were so bad. Not only bad, but incomplete! Argh.

Glad to see R2 is really stepping up for Godard releases. My only problem is I'm afraid to invest in several of these for fear of a later, greater Criterion release (2 or 3 things, Masculin-Feminin etc).

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#5 Post by solent » Wed Feb 09, 2005 1:52 am

Glad to see R2 is really stepping up for Godard releases. My only problem is I'm afraid to invest in several of these for fear of a later, greater Criterion release (2 or 3 things, Masculin-Feminin etc).
Id say that if money is an issue don't get MASCULIN or 2 OR 3 THINGS as they will certainly be out in R1 within year [?]. I prefer US dollars to UK pounds in exchange for my AUD dollars. Despite being a Godard freak I have patience (and faith in the CC producing something better).

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#6 Post by peerpee » Thu Feb 10, 2005 10:24 pm

solent wrote:
Glad to see R2 is really stepping up for Godard releases. My only problem is I'm afraid to invest in several of these for fear of a later, greater Criterion release (2 or 3 things, Masculin-Feminin etc).
Id say that if money is an issue don't get MASCULIN or 2 OR 3 THINGS as they will certainly be out in R1 within year [?]. I prefer US dollars to UK pounds in exchange for my AUD dollars. Despite being a Godard freak I have patience (and faith in the CC producing something better).
Probably a big chance of a crap PAL > NTSC conversion for R1 land ----- unless Criterion get it and send the flying squad in to do an HD transfer.

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#7 Post by tubal » Fri Feb 18, 2005 12:15 pm

The covers are now up on Play.com for La Chinoise and Detective.

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#8 Post by david hare » Mon Feb 21, 2005 8:05 pm

La Chinoise plus two Godard shorts also listed for release in R4 April 13.

AVChannel/Madman releasing can be terribly variable in quality. I will be waiting for reviews.

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#9 Post by The Fanciful Norwegian » Mon Feb 21, 2005 11:55 pm

davidhare wrote:La Chinoise plus two Godard shorts also listed for release in R4 April 13.

AVChannel/Madman releasing can be terribly variable in quality. I will be waiting for reviews.
British Sounds kinda fits as an extra (it's an "agit-prop" film, and there's some students in it), but the inclusion of JLG/JLG is a bit weird. It's as though they had the rights just sitting around and couldn't figure out what else to do with it, so they just stuck it in on a disc with whatever other Godard properties they happened to own. I doubt the transfer will be as good as the R2 (cramming those two hour-long films on the same disc alongside the main feature is definitely going to hurt the bitrate) but so long as it's not unwatchable the extras will probably make me spring for the R4. I like that one of the critics' blurbs they're using is from the Maoist International Movement.

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#10 Post by solent » Tue Feb 22, 2005 10:58 pm

The Fanciful Norwegian wrote:British Sounds kinda fits as an extra (it's an "agit-prop" film, and there's some students in it), but the inclusion of JLG/JLG is a bit weird.
A more intelligent extra would have been the Pennebaker/Leacock film of Godard's visit to NYC in 1968. [30 mins?] I have it on a bootleg VHS of MADE IN USA. Most of the discussion [in English] is about Godard's latest film which happened to be - guess what? - that's right: LA CHINOISE! The comments on the film (recently watched by the film students) are revealing. [I assume this short would end up on a CC release if CC had the rights to LA CHINOISE but I am speculating.]

As an Australian, used to a dearth of Foreign films on R4, I am shocked to see a film I covet as the first Godard film out on DVD in this country. I would have expected ALPHAVILLE [the universal classic?]. I will get this over R2 due to the poor exchange rate between the UK and Oz. I only have PICNIC AT HANGING ROCK from AV Channel so I don't know of their quality. PICNIC is OK. The DVD of LA CHINOISE will be better than my Jap VHS version anyway.

p.s. A 2-disc edition of DON'S PARTY by Bruce Beresford is out on the same day [AV Channel again]. It is loaded with interesting extras. The film is based on the David Williamson play and it is good for a laugh.

Aldso coming out in R4 are the first of the American Film Theatre DVDs [BUTLEY, etc.] These are the sames as the R2 versions with extra interviews not found on the Kino versions.

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#11 Post by david hare » Wed Feb 23, 2005 3:20 am

solent wrote:A more intelligent extra would have been the Pennebaker/Leacock film of Godard's visit to NYC in 1968. [30 mins?] I have it on a bootleg VHS of MADE IN USA.
Solent as an example AVChannel is now porting a pile of R2 foreign titles incl. Rocco, Open City, Ossessione etc (in most cases identical to the R2 editions.) As an example of quality their LA PIANISTE is quite good (but certainly not Hidef sourced) with removeable subs but their PARIS TEXAS is an abomination. Then there is the outageous, misframed ELEPHANT in widescreen. They may be doing a lot to feed the starving souls back here but their attention to quality issues is appalling. (And they never answer emails!) Frankly I think their big sellers are anime etc. (But who would know?)

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#12 Post by devlinnn » Wed Feb 23, 2005 6:36 am

davidhare wrote:Solent as an example AVChannel is now porting a pile of R2 foreign titles incl. Rocco, Open City, Ossessione etc (in most cases identical to the R2 editions.) As an example of quality their LA PIANISTE is quite good (but certainly not Hidef sourced) with removeable subs but their PARIS TEXAS is an abomination. Then there is the outageous, misframed ELEPHANT in widescreen.
If JLG/JLG finds its way onto the R4 DVD of La Chinoise I'll eat my dead uncle's hat. AVChannel are notorious for announcing titles months in advance with news of great added content that end up having little to do with the final product. Just this week Ossessione was released with a promised commentary that is absent. (Not that you would know from their own website!) The March release of The Leopard was originally going to be a port of the Criterion (Cowie commentary, doco, two versions etc.). Now it's one version, different commentary.

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#13 Post by therainsong » Fri Mar 25, 2005 6:00 pm

Does anybody know how the quality is on the British DVDs of Two or Three Things... and on the second WB Box Set of Godard's films?

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La Chinoise: Special Edition (Region 4)

#14 Post by Gordon » Sun Apr 03, 2005 1:56 pm

La Chinoise: Special Edition (Region 4)

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Short Feature By Godard, British Sounds, 1969 (52mins)
One Of Jean-luc Godard�s Maoist-marxist Agitprop Films, Also Known As �See You At Mao.�
Short Documentary By Godard On Godard Called Jlg/jlg: A Self-portrait In December, 1994 (62mins)
Starring Jean-luc Godard As A Fictional Character Who Wanders About In The Winter Landscape Of His Swiss Home While Musing On The Fate Of Cinema And Western Culture.
Insert Essay By Author Christos Tsiolkas

AV Channel are one of the best independant Australian distributors and this will probably be anamorphic with optional English subtitles.

The BFI are releasing their edition next month, but the extras aren't known yet.

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#15 Post by Keaton » Sun Apr 03, 2005 2:39 pm

Hi,

What fabulous supplements, a must buy only for the two shorts.

Regards,

Dennis :)

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#16 Post by ellipsis7 » Sun Apr 03, 2005 2:41 pm

The BFI are releasing their edition next month, but the extras aren't known yet.
UK R2 release of LA CHINOISE in May is from Optimum, reliable but not known for their extras...

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#17 Post by Gordon » Sun Apr 03, 2005 3:50 pm

D'oh! No wonder I couldn't find it at the BFI site! #-o

Yeah, Optimum, though in the past they were a bit iffy, seem to use excellent elements these days. However, the R4 looks amazing and once www.michaeldvd.com.au review it, I'll make my decision.

The film itself has been very hard to see over the years and I'm glad it is finally available.

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#18 Post by ellipsis7 » Sun Apr 03, 2005 3:54 pm

Those extras aren't going to turn up together anywhere else!

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#19 Post by Gordon » Sun Apr 03, 2005 4:03 pm

Correct!

I have bought a few DVDs from Ezy and have found them to be the best Australian DVD etailer.

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#20 Post by devlinnn » Sun Apr 03, 2005 6:35 pm

As mentioned in another thread on the same topic, don't get your hopes up on this one yet. AV Channel are not the most reliable when it comes to DVD details. The release date has been pushed back to May-June, and there is no way all those added films will fit on the one disc. I'd hesitate to pre-order on this one.

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#21 Post by Gordon » Sun Apr 03, 2005 6:52 pm

I'd hesitate to pre-order on this one.
That's exactly what I intend to do. Once I read a review, I'll make my decision.

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#22 Post by BrightEyes23 » Sun Apr 03, 2005 8:02 pm

devlinnn wrote:As mentioned in another thread on the same topic, don't get your hopes up on this one yet. AV Channel are not the most reliable when it comes to DVD details. The release date has been pushed back to May-June, and there is no way all those added films will fit on the one disc. I'd hesitate to pre-order on this one.
Are you sure its been pushed back? That site lists it as April 19th.

I've got the Optimum on pre-order from Bensons, but if this is going to have what it looks like it's going to have, I think I'm going to cancel the pre-order from Bensons and get this.

I understand the cautious optimism around these...but don't you think they're rather large supplement to announce and THEN pull back from the release?

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#23 Post by devlinnn » Sun Apr 03, 2005 8:52 pm

Are you sure its been pushed back? That site lists it as April 19th.
Yes.
I understand the cautious optimism around these...but don't you think they're rather large supplement to announce and THEN pull back from the release?
It wouldn't be the first time. Recent releases from AV, The Leopard and Ossessione, had very different, or absent, bonus features on the DVDs to what was initially announced. La Chinosie + British Sounds + JLG/JLG on one disc (and from all accounts it will be only one disc) looks too good to be true. Quality would also be an issue if indeed all is there.

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La Chinoise: Special Edition (Region 4)

#24 Post by Rufus T. Firefly » Mon Apr 04, 2005 12:49 am

The AV Channel's website lists it for a 25 May release.

I would not be surprised if all of the extras appear on the disc. Their release of La Strada has the film, an audio commentary and two 50 min+ documentaries (and more), all on one dual-layer disc. I have not watched the disc, but that's pushing the storage limits of a DVD to its extreme, given the feature runs 104 mins.

I would be more concerned about the video quality. AV Channel are very variable with the quality of their transfers, especially if the original source is NTSC. Their releases often have lots of artefacts, in my experience.

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#25 Post by david hare » Mon Apr 04, 2005 2:08 am

Yes their rock-bottom NTSC-PAL transfer is the appalling PARIS TEXAS. There are many others unfortunately (and have you noticed how wrong they get their cover details e.g. ROCCO AND HIS BROTHERS listed as 102 minutes!)

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