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milk114
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#1 Post by milk114 » Sat Jan 08, 2005 12:53 am

I just got my end-of-year bonus and wanted to spend it on dvds (why not?) and was wondering what noir films would others suggest to get? All I currently have are Killer's Kiss and The Killing so I am open to any and all suggestions. thanks

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Michael
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#2 Post by Michael » Sat Jan 08, 2005 1:05 am

In A Lonely Place is one of my favorites. And also Double Indemnity...isn't the new DVD version supposed to come out anytime soon?

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#3 Post by Christian » Sat Jan 08, 2005 1:08 am

May I give the obvious, safe suggestion?

OUT OF THE PAST (Jacques Tourneur, 1947)

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#4 Post by miloauckerman » Sat Jan 08, 2005 4:32 am

Double Indemnity is on TCM this month to hold you until the DVD comes out.

good popular choices:
The Warner Bros. Noir Box Set
Kiss Me Deadly
The Postman Always Rings Twice

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#5 Post by david hare » Sat Jan 08, 2005 4:38 am

Add to all of these - Criss Cross from Universal. (The other titles in their set are nice too!)

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#6 Post by Michael » Sat Jan 08, 2005 12:18 pm

Double Indemnity is on TCM this month
Thanks for the head up. It will be on the 18th at 8:00 pm. Must see!
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#7 Post by clutch44 » Sat Jan 08, 2005 3:42 pm

Noir has always been a favorite for me, of the previously mentioned titles and a few more I would rank them as follows:
Must haves
Out Of The Past
Double Indemnity (hopefully a new release soon)
Laura
The Postman Always Rings Twice
Gun Crazy
Mildred Pierce
The Strange Love of Martha Ivers

Others that NEED to be released on DVD
The Narrow Margin
Phantom Lady
The Woman in the Window
Born to Kill

Robert Mitchum film noir that I hope will be released soon
Macao
The Big Steal
His Kind of Woman
Angel Face

Jean-Pierre Melville film noir
Le Samourai
Bob le flambeur
Le Cercle Rouge
Un flic

While many will argue that some films don't meet all the 'criteria' of noir, I certainly find the influence in each film listed. The upcoming Dassin releases are great choices as well.

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Gregory
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#8 Post by Gregory » Sat Jan 08, 2005 4:06 pm

I love film noir, but rather than list a whole slew of titles, I'll just urge everyone to watch The Hitch-Hiker (Ida Lupino, 1953), an extremely rich film that has been grossly undervalued.
Also, hold off on buying any of the following DVDs from Image until Jan. 18, when they will drop in price:
Blue Gardenia
D.O.A. (1950)
Detour
Impact
Kansas City Confidential
The Thief (1952)
Too Late For Tears

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#9 Post by david hare » Sat Jan 08, 2005 6:24 pm

Clutch 44 - two of the Bob Mitchum titles you mention don't qualify as noir:

The Big Steal is really a caper film with comedy episodes despite the Mitrchum/Jane Greer pairing. Look elsewhere in Siegel for Noir.

Macao began life as an atmospheric Sternberg piece of exotica but was butchered by Howard Hughes who bought in several other directors notably Nick Ray to "re-shape" the material. Thus the fight scenes directed by Ray have the feeling of an action pic, while Sternberg's vision for the picture is undermined the by the cutting of Gloria Grahame's part which renders her character motivationally incomprehensible. There is, however William Bendix whose presence probably accounts for this title being included in most Noir anthologioes (I don't myself)

Other titles not mentioned:

Stranger on the Third Floor
Crack Up
Crossfire
Cornered
Baby Face Nelson
Night has a Thousand Eyes

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#10 Post by miloauckerman » Sat Jan 08, 2005 9:55 pm

http://www.mindjack.com/film/filmnoir.html

Covers a few cheap noir collections (some overlap with the more expensive Image titles), I've been meaning to try one and see how bad the quality is.

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#11 Post by Fletch F. Fletch » Mon Jan 10, 2005 10:32 am

also...

The Asphalt Jungle (1950)
The Killers (both versions)
The Lineup (1958)

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#12 Post by rwaits » Mon Jan 10, 2005 12:22 pm

Wait a second. I had no idea Double Indemnity is finally being rereleased. Who is putting it out??

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#13 Post by zedz » Mon Jan 10, 2005 4:38 pm

I can't believe nobody's mentioned Force of Evil or T-Men. Both of these are at the pinnacle of noir - Alton's photography on T-Men is iconic. Force of Evil is simply one of the all-time greatest American movies, and the Lions Gate DVD seems to be OK, according to the Beaver. There's a cheap T-Men around which is OK, as I recall.

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#14 Post by oldsheperd » Mon Jan 10, 2005 5:03 pm

Let's not forget Shack Out on 101 or On Dangerous Ground by Nick Ray

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#15 Post by porquenegar » Mon Jan 10, 2005 5:57 pm

The Questar Five Film Noir Killer Classics is actually a very good deal for the money. Deepdiscount is selling it for under $17. The transfers are not definitive but they are very acceptable with the exception of Scarlett Street which I think is poor but watchable. The extras disk has a few interesting short documentaries and a slew of trailers. Movies included are D.O.A, Detour, The Stranger, Scarlet Street, Killer Bait.

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#16 Post by The Invunche » Mon Jan 10, 2005 6:06 pm

Eyes Wide Shut.




;)

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#17 Post by Christian » Mon Jan 10, 2005 6:51 pm

The Invunche wrote:Eyes Wide Shut.




;)
:shock:

you just knocked another three years off dvdane's life span.

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#18 Post by devlinnn » Wed Jan 19, 2005 7:18 pm

Also, hold off on buying any of the following DVDs from Image until Jan. 18, when they will drop in price:
Blue Gardenia
D.O.A. (1950)
Detour
Impact
Kansas City Confidential
The Thief (1952)
Too Late For Tears
Are you sure about this? Looks like they were reissued on the 18th at the same (high) price.

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#19 Post by Gregory » Wed Jan 19, 2005 7:42 pm

Yeah, it sure looks that way. I got the information from a thread at DVDTalk, which I believe is maintained by someone in the trade and is reliable. According to DVDPriceSearch.com, these are available for around $10 from a few retailers I'm not in the habit of ordering from (Best Prices, Buy.com), so maybe other retailers will drop the prices in time. If not, sorry for passing along a bum tip, and it's a shame because Detour is one of the great films of its era, but I've been holding off for a better price.

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#20 Post by Harold Gervais » Wed Jan 19, 2005 7:43 pm

Well, I don't know what it was priced at before but I'm waiting on my copy of The Thief to arrive from amazon and I paid a paltry $9.99 for it.

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#21 Post by devlinnn » Wed Jan 19, 2005 7:45 pm

These films are public domain, so you may pick them up cheap. But the Image releases usually have the better transfers.

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#22 Post by Gary Tooze » Thu Jan 20, 2005 2:55 pm

But the Image releases usually have the better transfers.
I'd go Roan Group ahead of Image... usually cheaper too as well as better quality very often.

We have listed all the Classic Noir's here with link to reviews and comparisons... (and links then to buy)

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/film-noir.htm

BTW, I agree with Gregory about Hitch-hiker...

Best,
Gary

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#23 Post by rwaits » Mon Feb 20, 2006 3:43 pm

Lets open this one back up. Lately it seems I have been watching nothing but noir--just about anything I can get my hands on. As much as I love the classics, I am really enjoying the lesser known gems such as Detour, T-Men, D.O.A., Hitch-Hiker etc.

Can anyone recommend any more films in this vein? I'd also be thrilled to learn about more non-American films.

(Sock it to me, Zedz)

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#24 Post by bjeggert82 » Mon Feb 20, 2006 4:11 pm

Depends on what you consider Film Noir I suppose, if you mean by narrative or literal filmic qualities, but here are some of my favorite noirs that you may like...


La Bete Humaine
The Killers
Touch of Evil
The Third Man
Laura
Touchez pas au grisbi
Bob le flambeur

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#25 Post by rwaits » Mon Feb 20, 2006 4:15 pm

Only one of those films I haven't seen is La Bete Humaine, which of course I've been meaning to check out. I guess I'm just wanting to dig a little deeper--films that don't usually end up on "top 10 or 20" lists, but are great just the same.

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