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#1 Post by Fletch F. Fletch » Fri Dec 17, 2004 10:04 am

Here's the back cover art courtesy of DVDAnswers:

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#2 Post by The Invunche » Fri Dec 17, 2004 10:30 am

Looks better than the front.

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#3 Post by Godot » Tue Jun 28, 2005 6:52 pm

Fletch wrote:it would be nice to see it given the Criterion treatment and they could throw in L.A. Takedown on one of the discs.

For those interested, Nicheflix offers a R2 version of L.A. Takedown. I watched it this week as prep for the SE, and it's a fascinating companion piece. It plays like a run-through for Heat, encompassing ~60% of the later film. It has some different scenes and different dialogue, but the most interesting aspect for me was the preponderance of similar scenes with the same (or slightly altered) dialogue as in Heat. The diner scene, for example, is mesmerizing to watch, if only to remind you of how much more depth and character DeNiro and Pacino invest in the same lines. Alex McArthur (as McLaren) mostly purses his lips and stares, and Scott Plank (as Vincent) looks like Ben Affleck with less acting chops (Pacino even improves his shouting); the Tom Sizemore and Val Kilmer characters are mostly sketches here, but Waingro (played by the awesomely named Xander Berkeley) is similarly wild-eyed. The directing and action also plays out like a rehearsal, with Mann using a lot of hand-held camera; watching Heat after L.A. Takedown feels like luxuriating in Olivier's Henry V after sitting through a college production. But I was completely transfixed, and I recommend it to fans of Mann and Heat, or just to see how a director develops his material over time. It's interesting to speculate how Mann re-thought some of the scenes, changing pace, fleshing out ideas, while also leaving the ones that play nicely (such as the Waingro kiss-off at the diner) alone. The Nick James BFI monograph on Heat also covers some of the script development between the films.

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#4 Post by Polybius » Thu Jun 30, 2005 4:05 am

Xander Berkeley is one of the coolest, hardest working character actors in Hollywood. He's also in Heat.

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#5 Post by Fletch F. Fletch » Thu Jun 30, 2005 8:57 am

Godot wrote:For those interested, Nicheflix offers a R2 version of L.A. Takedown. I watched it this week as prep for the SE, and it's a fascinating companion piece. It plays like a run-through for Heat, encompassing ~60% of the later film. It has some different scenes and different dialogue, but the most interesting aspect for me was the preponderance of similar scenes with the same (or slightly altered) dialogue as in Heat.

I wonder why L.A. Takedown has never seen the light of day on video here in North America? I know Mann does see it as a rough draft so maybe he's embarrassed by it? It might also explain why The Keep has not been released on DVD yet (at least Region 1). Last year it was reported that Paramount was going to finally release it and then nothing.

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#6 Post by TedW » Thu Jun 30, 2005 1:36 pm

It could just be that Mann realizes how bad it is. The acting is wooden, the movie is cheesy, and it looks like they made it for $32.50. Interesting, maybe, for Mann completists, but the movie really is no good and perhaps he wishes it would just go away.

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#7 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Thu Jun 30, 2005 5:48 pm

Xander Berkeley was also the father who adopted John Connor in Terminator 2. Strangely enough (this is how much of a film geek I am), the man who plays the biker in the beginning of the movie that fights with Arnold also plays the Nate (played by Jon Voight in Heat) character in L.A. Takedown.

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#9 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Wed Aug 19, 2009 5:16 pm

From thedigitalbits:

...the back of the packaging for Warner Home Video's Heat Blu-ray (due 11/3) reveals that the 2-disc set will include "new content changes supervised by director Michael Mann" which amounts to about 2 minutes of trims.

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#10 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Mon Dec 27, 2010 1:43 am

Just watched the blu-ray, which is not a 2-disc set btw. I honestly couldn't tell the difference between this version and previous DVD versions.

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#11 Post by The Elegant Dandy Fop » Mon Dec 27, 2010 2:03 am

A close comrade just saw this theatrically at the New Beverly. He said the trims on the DVD/Blu-Ray are just little bits of inconsequential dialogue in scenes. Nothing more than Mann tightening it up it seems.

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#12 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Mon Dec 27, 2010 11:55 am

Makes sense. I barely noticed it, but then again I don't have my DVD of it playing on a loop. They may as well have not advertised it.

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#13 Post by willoneill » Wed Dec 29, 2010 5:01 pm

I don't know all of the minor changes, but one I do know is the scene where Al Pacino and his crew first meet Hank Azaria (the "she's got a great ass!" rant). Originally, after his rant, Al Pacino says "Ferocious, aren't I?". That line is no longer in the film on the blu-ray.

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#14 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Tue Nov 29, 2016 11:19 pm

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This just went up on Amazon.fr. Looks like in addition to the supplements from the previous special edition, it will include both the full Q&A's done (with the Academy this past September with Christopher Nolan moderating, and one from last year's TIFF).

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#15 Post by FrauBlucher » Fri Mar 17, 2017 7:23 pm


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#16 Post by oh yeah » Fri Mar 17, 2017 11:38 pm

Indeed. Got a copy from Amazon.co.uk recently, haven't checked it out yet but am eager to do so. The label says Region B but I'm sure it should be region free as has been reported.

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#17 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:52 pm

I got mine last week, I can definitely confirm they are region free.

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#18 Post by FrauBlucher » Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:35 pm

For those hoping for a Criterion release Fox just laid that to rest. May 9 it will be available in the US.

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#19 Post by oh yeah » Thu Mar 23, 2017 4:11 am

Wait, so does anybody know for sure yet if this US blu will be any different from the UK one, or the same transfer?

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#20 Post by tenia » Thu Mar 23, 2017 4:42 am

It most likely will be the same (Fox released it in Europe). Actually, the US release might directly use the European discs.

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#21 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Thu Mar 23, 2017 12:55 pm

I would bet on that, too. A shame they won't be releasing it on 4K, just on regular Blu I really didn't notice any major leaps in quality as I liked the WB disc.

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