Olympia (Leni Riefenstahl, 1938)
- Documaniaque
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Re: Olympia (Leni Riefenstahl, 1938)
I'm seriously tired of waiting for this one. It's really absurd for a film of this artistic/historical importance, and with many potential buyers. Maybe we should start a petition here and send it to Edition Filmmuseum asking them to put it out?
Is there some law in Germany against releasing Nazi-propaganda that's preventing a German release of the uncensored version? I'm starting to think there are other factors at play here than the laziness of it's past publishers or a misplaced desire to erase the ugly parts of history. I mean if Arte put it out in the censored version maybe there's some reason we don't know about...
Is there some law in Germany against releasing Nazi-propaganda that's preventing a German release of the uncensored version? I'm starting to think there are other factors at play here than the laziness of it's past publishers or a misplaced desire to erase the ugly parts of history. I mean if Arte put it out in the censored version maybe there's some reason we don't know about...
- knives
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Re: Olympia (Leni Riefenstahl, 1938)
To the best of my knowledge in Germany the only censorship law regarding such releases as you're referring to is that it must be cushioned with extensive contextualization and other similarly designed discussion pieces on how what the film is promoting is wrong headed.
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Re: Olympia (Leni Riefenstahl, 1938)
OK, I suppose there's still hope then.
Like "Hiter was a bad man and Leni didn't like fat people"? I'm all for historical contextualization, but I don't like be treated like a child who can't watch these things with the necessary distance. Vertov was more or less a Stalinist I believe, and we get his movies uncut, and Ruttmann was bigger Nazi than Leni, though it's true Edition Filmuseum didn't include "Deutsche Panzer" in his box set.knives wrote:it must be cushioned with extensive contextualization and other similarly designed discussion pieces on how what the film is promoting is wrong headed.
- knives
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Re: Olympia (Leni Riefenstahl, 1938)
Vertov was for Lenin styled communist, not Stalinist. Though otherwise I agree that some of these laws are excessive.
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Re: Olympia (Leni Riefenstahl, 1938)
I stand corrected.knives wrote:Vertov was for Lenin styled communist, not Stalinist.
So, who knows what cinema archive(s) in Germany posesses the uncut Olympia?
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Re: Olympia (Leni Riefenstahl, 1938)
Here's info on the Criterion LD. Even that is only 200 min, when according to Wikipedia it's 226 min.
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Re: Olympia (Leni Riefenstahl, 1938)
In the new preface Downing makes it clear that the IOC have restored the version that first premiered in Berlin. They've also restored the self-promoting 'making of' that Riefenstahl commissioned too. (I've reviewed the second edition of the book for the Digital Fix here.)TMDaines wrote:Amazon updated their product information for the second edition of the BFI Film Classic book for Olympia recently:Are we finally going to see this film get the release that it should? If the IOC are involved I suspect that it could well end up censored though. I doubt they'd want Hitler showing up in something they're involved in. ... In writing this edition, Taylor Downing has been given access to a magnificent new restoration of the original version of the film by the International Olympic Committee.
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Re: Olympia (Leni Riefenstahl, 1938)
I've got the second edition waiting for me at my home address too. Look forward to reading it in a few weeks. I really hope we get a decent version of this film soon but I'm some what doubtful with all the shit versions that keep coming out too. There's yet another one listed for the UK on Moviemail in the next couple of months.
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Re: Olympia (Leni Riefenstahl, 1938)
wow I hope that version makes it to blu rayantnield wrote:In the new preface Downing makes it clear that the IOC have restored the version that first premiered in Berlin.
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Re: Olympia (Leni Riefenstahl, 1938)
Okay, so it's been restored by the IOC. That's great news. But if no DVD company is currently negotiating the rights from them then we're not seeing a disc anytime soon. Can anyone say that's happening?Class316 wrote:antnield wrote:In the new preface Downing makes it clear that the IOC have restored the version that first premiered in Berlin.
An interesting article about the sale of the film to the IOC: http://www.thelocal.de/national/20130422-49289.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Olympia (Leni Riefenstahl, 1938)
I am convinced we will never see a propper release of this. I found a good deal on the criterion laserdisc. $32 shipped and it's in very nice shape. I have no LD player but I hope to find a way to get it copied to DVD so I'll have the best version possible. After all this is the only home released version approved by Leni herself, right?
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Re: Olympia (Leni Riefenstahl, 1938)
Original uncut version shown in Copenhagen festival last year?
http://cphdox.dk/en/screening/ai-weiwei ... er-olympia" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
It says 239 minutes which sounds promising...
http://cphdox.dk/en/screening/ai-weiwei ... er-olympia" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
It says 239 minutes which sounds promising...