The Future of Home Video

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Re: The Future of Home Video

#426 Post by TMDaines » Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:47 pm

As always, the backchannels provide an invaluable service for helping ensure the widest array of content will remain available to a wide-ranging auidence. The commerical, legal streaming sites do not have that purpose.

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Re: The Future of Home Video

#427 Post by movielocke » Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:46 pm

TMDaines wrote:
As always, the backchannels provide an invaluable service for helping ensure the widest array of content will remain available to a wide-ranging auidence. The commerical, legal streaming sites do not have that purpose.
This rationalization reminds me of a quote from one of my wife’s favorite movies, (we just watched it again)
Rocket Raccoon: Question. What if I see something that I wanna take and it belongs to someone else?

Rhomann Dey: Then you will be arrested.

Rocket Raccoon: But what if I want it more than the person who has it?

Rhomann Dey: Still illegal.

Rocket Raccoon: That doesn't follow. No, I want it more, sir. Do you understand me?

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Re: The Future of Home Video

#428 Post by Tropical Kaiju » Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:38 pm

Quick question, all of you...

Should I spring for an Oppo UDP-203 while still available? I don't have any European of Japanese Blu ray discs, but I've been meaning to upgrade my system. I understand 4K discs are not region encoded at all. So, it would only be necessary to open up the possibility of buying non-region 1 blus.

I'm very happy with my Oppo multi-region DVD player, which is still trucking´after a long, long time.

I'm still burned by getting a HD-DVD player a month before Toshiba lost the format wars to Sony...

Is this a fool's errand?

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Re: The Future of Home Video

#429 Post by Drucker » Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:46 pm

No. The player is fantastic, especially if you have CDs/SACDs.

The 203 is also available PRE-MODDED from 220 Electronics for the same cost of buying the player and doing the mod yourself via USB. I bought this two months ago and have been incredibly happy.

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Re: The Future of Home Video

#430 Post by furbicide » Tue Apr 03, 2018 7:31 pm

TMDaines wrote:
As always, the backchannels provide an invaluable service for helping ensure the widest array of content will remain available to a wide-ranging auidence. The commerical, legal streaming sites do not have that purpose.
Couldn’t agree more. I still buy heaps of DVDs (and even videotapes, when necessary) and always try to support labels like Criterion, Arrow, Second Run, Re:Voir and others that put so much effort into their releases. Nevertheless, the film distribution market as a whole, whether it be streaming or physical, is simply unable or (simply due to existing in a capitalist system) unwilling to cope with the extent of quality cinema that’s out there, and that’s a situation that won’t be changing any time in the foreseeable future.

Further limitations, such as region (and lately geoblocking) restrictions only make the situation harder for those of us living outside the US. Region-free players are easy to get here, mercifully, but bypassing streaming site location settings is a great deal more challenging – and that means that not only do we miss out on Fandor, Filmstruck and a range of other good services, but that our version of Netflix is even smaller and less adventurous than its overseas counterparts. It’s a situation that necessitates some form of engagement outside the market; surely only the most pious cinephile doesn’t in some way or other.

I don’t see the work of backchannels as merely justifiable; I see their work as absolutely essential, and would argue that they are among the most erstwhile defenders of public engagement with cinema.
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Re: The Future of Home Video

#431 Post by StevenJ0001 » Tue Apr 03, 2018 8:24 pm

Tropical Kaiju wrote:Quick question, all of you...

Should I spring for an Oppo UDP-203 while still available? I don't have any European of Japanese Blu ray discs, but I've been meaning to upgrade my system. I understand 4K discs are not region encoded at all. So, it would only be necessary to open up the possibility of buying non-region 1 blus.

I'm very happy with my Oppo multi-region DVD player, which is still trucking´after a long, long time.

I'm still burned by getting a HD-DVD player a month before Toshiba lost the format wars to Sony...

Is this a fool's errand?
I just bought one direct from Oppo--I was on the fence and this unfortunate news tipped me over. I've pined for an Oppo for years and was not going to miss out now!

I'm not sure I understand what you're looking for with regard to region capability, however. As you stated, 4K discs are not region encoded. Japanese Blu-rays are Region A, like the US, so you don't need a multi-region player for them if you're in the United States. Some but not all UK/European Blus are Region B, so you need multi-region capability for flexibility with UK/European Blus.

The 203 is Region A-only for Blu and Region 1-only for DVD, unless you buy a region-modded version as Drucker suggested.

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Re: The Future of Home Video

#432 Post by DarkImbecile » Thu Apr 05, 2018 11:06 am

MPAA Report: Physical Media Sales Continue Decline, Streaming Continues Rapid Growth
In 2017, combined global spending on theatrical and home entertainment hit $88.4 billion. Digital home entertainment, which includes streaming services, soared 31 percent year-over-year to $32.1 billion, while physical home entertainment spending continued to plummet, down 15 percent to $15.7 billion. But, thanks to digital — up a staggering 161 percent from five years ago — total home entertainment spending was up 11 percent ($47.8 billion).

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The Future of Home Video

#433 Post by movielocke » Thu Apr 05, 2018 3:23 pm

And that digital 32 billion is without carrying any inventory, transit and manufacturing overhead costs associated with physical media.

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Re: The Future of Home Video

#434 Post by fdm » Mon Apr 09, 2018 10:26 pm

Drucker wrote:No. The player is fantastic, especially if you have CDs/SACDs.

The 203 is also available PRE-MODDED from 220 Electronics for the same cost of buying the player and doing the mod yourself via USB. I bought this two months ago and have been incredibly happy.
I just found out the external mods for the 103 may actually work on the 203, which would mean saving 60 bucks or so right there if you did it yourself (total could end up about $600 or so before shipping) (and I do now wonder what you would get different if you paid double for the 203 mod on ebay...).

I already have a 103 mod so I am leaning towards trying it myself to see, but at this point I'm pretty sure it's a viable, cheaper option than paying for someone else to include the mod. No proof until I do it myself, but others have claimed it works for them.

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Re: The Future of Home Video

#435 Post by jedgeco » Thu Apr 12, 2018 3:07 pm

fdm wrote:I already have a 103 mod so I am leaning towards trying it myself to see, but at this point I'm pretty sure it's a viable, cheaper option than paying for someone else to include the mod. No proof until I do it myself, but others have claimed it works for them.
If you do, please report back. I'm in the same boat with the 103 external mod.

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Re: The Future of Home Video

#436 Post by fdm » Thu Apr 12, 2018 7:33 pm

I added a little bit more information in the All-Region DVD and Blu-ray Player Advice thread the other day, and will do an update there once I know.

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