Theorem
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- hearthesilence
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Excellent news! Finally saw Pasolini's work for the very first time at MoMA during their amazing retrospective, and it was probably my favorite of all of Pasolini's films. (I should note the one film I really wanted to see but missed was Hawks and Sparrows.)
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Before the film, they showed a video interview with him where he talks about the film's premise.
"It's about God visiting these five individuals. The father gives away his factory then wanders the desert naked, the daughter becomes catatonic, the mother becomes a nymphomaniac..."
And then he says "the son, he becomes a painter..."
And after a long pause, he adds "...like Bacon."
And as soon as he grins, the whole audience started laughing.
"It's about God visiting these five individuals. The father gives away his factory then wanders the desert naked, the daughter becomes catatonic, the mother becomes a nymphomaniac..."
And then he says "the son, he becomes a painter..."
And after a long pause, he adds "...like Bacon."
And as soon as he grins, the whole audience started laughing.
- swo17
- Bloodthirsty Butcher
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Of course, I just bought the DVD last week, so you're welcome, everyone.
- TMDaines
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Wonderful news, and thanks swo.
- RossyG
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Yes, cheers, swo. Much appreciated.
If it's any consolation I took one for the team by buying Axiom's Paris Texas DVD a fortnight before the BD was announced.
If it's any consolation I took one for the team by buying Axiom's Paris Texas DVD a fortnight before the BD was announced.
- MichaelB
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Confirmed as Region B.
- zedz
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I had that first impression too, but looking again at the original cover, it was pretty bland. It's a shame for such a visually striking film. Still, if a nude Silvana Magnano can sell a few extra copies, I say go for it!
My favourite image is Laura Betti's eyes peeping out from the dirt, but that's not exactly representative. The new cover, at least, gives you a vague idea of what you're in for (Stamp + Sex).
My favourite image is Laura Betti's eyes peeping out from the dirt, but that's not exactly representative. The new cover, at least, gives you a vague idea of what you're in for (Stamp + Sex).
- swo17
- Bloodthirsty Butcher
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The old cover could be more colorful but it's a striking image that visually relays Stamp's role as a "sex angel." This new one just looks like a lazy rendering of the old Koch Lorber cover (maybe originally from a poster?). And yes, this film is all about sex in a way, but not the way this cover implies. (The film has maybe 0.01% the nudity of Trilogy of Life, but you wouldn't know it from the BFI's covers.)
- zedz
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I bet there were some great Polish posters for this film back in the day.
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But it does seem that the BFI cover is near as dammit the original poster:
There's a rather wild Japanese poster, but it's very Japanese:
Does image search. Comes up blank.
But it does seem that the BFI cover is near as dammit the original poster:
There's a rather wild Japanese poster, but it's very Japanese:
- swo17
- Bloodthirsty Butcher
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I also wish they would market the film under its Italian title. The English translation makes it sound like the most boring movie ever made, not to mention too similar to the screenplay I'm working on for a film about a guy who teaches every member of a family the wonders of math and then suddenly abandons them, leaving them all to wonder whether math will ever be fun again without him. (Spoiler alert: It will be!)
- knives
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I love the english title, but in general I prefer translations.
- TMDaines
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I'm just wondering what percentage of those who'd be interested in the film couldn't tell what Teorema meant? Why translate it at all?swo17 wrote:I also wish they would market the film under its Italian title. The English translation makes it sound like the most boring movie ever made, not to mention too similar to the screenplay I'm working on for a film about a guy who teaches every member of a family the wonders of math and then suddenly abandons them, leaving them all to wonder whether math will ever be fun again without him. (Spoiler alert: It will be!)
- MichaelB
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Full specs announced:
And there's also a new trailer.Theorem
A film by Pier Paolo Pasolini
Terence Stamp, Massimo Girotti, Silvana Mangano, Laura Betti
Following its theatrical release this month, the BFI will bring Pier Paolo Pasolini’s Theorem (1968) to Blu-ray for the first time in the UK when it is released complete and uncut in a Dual Format Edition (includes a DVD disc) on 27 May 2013. The new high definition digital transfer has restored picture and sound. Special features include a filmed interview with Terence Stamp, a feature commentary and an optional English language soundtrack.
A handsome, enigmatic stranger (Terence Stamp) arrives at a bourgeois household in Milan and successively seduces each family member, not forgetting the maid. Then, as abruptly and mysteriously as he arrived, he departs, leaving the distraught members of the household to make what sense they can of their lives in the void of his absence.
In this cool, richly complex and provocative political allegory, Pasolini uses his schematic plot to explore family dynamics, the intersection of class and sex, and the nature of different sexualities. After winning a prize at the Venice Film Festival, Theorem was subsequently banned on an obscenity charge, but Pasolini later won an acquittal on the grounds of the film’s ‘high artistic value’.
Theorem is visually ravishing, with superb performances from its international cast and a brilliantly eclectic soundtrack featuring music by composers ranging from Mozart to Morricone.
Special Features
• Presented in both High Definition and Standard Definition;
• Optional alternative English language soundtrack;
• Audio commentary by Italian film expert Robert Gordon;
• An Interview with Terence Stamp (2007, 34 mins, DVD only);
• 2013 theatrical release trailer;
• Illustrated booklet with an essay by Geoffrey Nowell-Smith, a review by Philip Strick and biographies of Pasolini and Stamp.
Product Details
RRP: £19.99 / cat. no. BFIB1166 / Cert 15
Italy / 1968 / colour, and tinted black and white / Italian language, with optional English subtitles / 98 mins / Original aspect ratio 1.85:1
Disc 1: BD50 / 1080p / 24fps / PCM mono audio (48k/24-bit)
Disc 2: DVD9 / PAL / Dolby Digital audio (320kbps)
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Excellent news about the optional English soundtrack for Theorem! No need to buy the Italian DVD.
- MichaelB
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Beaver:
The new 1080P is a significant improvement over the DVD - even the strong BFI one from 2007. Colors are rich, bordering on saturation, and textured grain is far more apparent. This Blu-ray is dual-layered and the bitrate more than 4X that of the best SD transfer. The sepia-style shots in the opening are much more film-like (notice the title sequences above). Overall this is a beauty - with only a few minor speckles from total perfection.
- MichaelB
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Mondo Digital:
A terrific HD upgrade following a theatrical UK reissue of the film. It looks fantastic, not surprisingly, and ranks with the other superb Pasolini Blu-Rays out there on the market. Colors look terrific, while the detail vaults way past the prior DVD editions. The Italian and English audio tracks are included together with optional subtitles for the first time on the same release, which would make this a keeper all by itself.
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