Journey to Italy

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ellipsis7
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Journey to Italy

#1 Post by ellipsis7 » Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:41 pm

This is an old BFI DVD with a really good Laura Mulvey commentary track...

Cannes Classics have just announced the screening of a new restoration of JOURNEY TO ITALY...
In 2011, Cannes Classics welcomed the ambitious Rossellini Project, the result of a collaboration between Instituto Luce Cinecittà, Cineteca di Bologna, CSC-Cineteca Nazionale and the Co-Production Office (head of international sales). After presenting The Machine that Kills Bad People (1948, 70’) in 2012 we will present, as a restored print, VIAGGIO IN ITALIA / JOURNEY TO ITALY (1954, 97') by Roberto Rossellini. Print restored by Cineteca di Bologna with L'Immagine Ritrovata in collaboration with Istituto Luce Cinecittà, CSC-Cineteca Nazionale and The Co-Production Office.
Maybe an opportunity for the BFI to consider to consider an upgrade to dual format BR/DVD from these new materials?...

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Re: Journey to Italy

#2 Post by andyli » Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:59 pm

There is already an Italian blu-ray. It should be based on the same restoration.

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Re: Journey to Italy

#3 Post by Calvin » Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:59 pm

We can only hope but a new restoration doesn't necessarily guarantee an upgrade. I know that A River Called Titas, for example, was restored by the WCF in 2010 but the BFI haven't upgraded the ancient DVD.

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Re: Journey to Italy

#4 Post by Rsdio » Thu Apr 26, 2012 2:35 pm

andyli wrote:There is already an Italian blu-ray. It should be based on the same restoration.
In case any other non-Italian speakers go off searching for this like I did (I've never seen the film and have held off on the BFI DVD for years assuming that an upgrade must be due) according to a post on blu-ray.com it unfortunately doesn't contain the original English audio track, just Italian.

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Re: Journey to Italy

#5 Post by swo17 » Thu Apr 26, 2012 3:03 pm

And there aren't English subs either.

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#6 Post by onedimension » Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:53 pm

Amazon has http://www.amazon.com/Journey-Italy-Rob ... 502&sr=1-1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

and I watched it happily a couple of weeks ago. English audio and menus, removable subtitles.

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#7 Post by Matango » Tue Aug 07, 2012 12:05 am

I wonder what it is about the Bay of Naples that makes it so popular for screenplays about foreigners arriving to deal with the estates of deceased relatives - Journey to Italy, Avanti! and It Started in Naples all have a similar plot device. Just a thought.

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Re: Journey to Italy

#8 Post by NABOB OF NOWHERE » Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:41 am

Matango wrote:I wonder what it is about the Bay of Naples that makes it so popular for screenplays about foreigners arriving to deal with the estates of deceased relatives - Journey to Italy, Avanti! and It Started in Naples all have a similar plot device. Just a thought.
See Naples and die.

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Re: Journey to Italy

#9 Post by ellipsis7 » Tue Aug 07, 2012 2:53 am

Let's hope this appears in a new incarnation soon in CC's posited Rossellini/Bergman set (naturally with the Mulvey commentary retained)...

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Re: Journey to Italy

#10 Post by Giulio » Tue Aug 07, 2012 7:18 am

keep on waiting for criterion releasing this rossellini/bergman boxset, any news?

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Re: Journey to Italy

#11 Post by ellipsis7 » Wed Sep 19, 2012 7:16 am

The new resto @ BFI LFF 2012...

Accompagnied by a new doc Bergman & Magnani: The War of Volcanoes...

Edging towards a dual format upgrade from the BFI?...

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Re: Journey to Italy

#12 Post by Peacock » Wed Sep 19, 2012 8:34 am

Fingers crossed!

Here's hoping that they include the Adrian Martin commentary from the Madman disk as well.

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Re: Journey to Italy

#13 Post by TMDaines » Wed Sep 19, 2012 5:36 pm

Peacock wrote:Fingers crossed!

Here's hoping that they include the Adrian Martin commentary from the Madman disk as well.
Is it just me or do those commentaries "never" make their way onto US and UK discs?

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Re: Journey to Italy

#14 Post by MichaelB » Thu Sep 20, 2012 4:31 am

I don't know the ins and outs, but Madman may simply not want to license them, especially if they give their own product a unique commercial advantage.

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Re: Journey to Italy

#15 Post by TMDaines » Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:28 am

As I'm bumping this thread, I'm sure a few people will get excited, thinking that a Blu-ray from the BFI has been announced, but I couldn't resist posting this error from the Rossellini biography on the DVD:

"Rossellini's first three feature films were made during World War 11..."

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Re: Journey to Italy

#16 Post by ellipsis7 » Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:56 am

LA NAVE BIANCA (1941), UN PILOTA RITORNA (1942) & L'UOMO DALLA CROCE (1943) surely...

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#17 Post by MichaelB » Fri Mar 08, 2013 11:24 am

ellipsis7 wrote:LA NAVE BIANCA (1941), UN PILOTA RITORNA (1942) & L'UOMO DALLA CROCE (1943) surely...
Yes, absolutely - I can't imagine what else could have been intended. Unless TMDaines was making an obscure point about World War Eleven?

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#18 Post by RossyG » Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:12 pm

I think it was a World War Eleven gag.

And yes, I got excited thinking a Blu-ray had been announced. :D

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Oh, Daines...

;)

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Re: Journey to Italy

#19 Post by knives » Fri Mar 08, 2013 12:17 pm

Don't do that when I'm drinking tea. I don't know if my comp is salvageable.

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Re: Journey to Italy

#20 Post by TMDaines » Fri Mar 08, 2013 1:43 pm

MichaelB wrote:
ellipsis7 wrote:LA NAVE BIANCA (1941), UN PILOTA RITORNA (1942) & L'UOMO DALLA CROCE (1943) surely...
Yes, absolutely - I can't imagine what else could have been intended. Unless TMDaines was making an obscure point about World War Eleven?
Yes! The biography says World War 11 as opposed to World War II. Presumbly the font the draft was written in didn't have serifs on the 1s. I would have liked to have seen Rossellini tackle World War 11 though.

We surely won't be waiting too long on the BFI or Criterion to announce something hopefully.

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Re: Journey to Italy

#21 Post by knives » Fri Mar 08, 2013 3:33 pm

If Criterion announced the fascist films with shorts as extras that would easily make my day. For as gross as the material can be The Man from the Cross is really gorgeous.

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Re: Journey to Italy

#22 Post by TMDaines » Fri Mar 08, 2013 9:54 pm

I thought all three of them were pretty dull and works of little artistic or drammatic value. They're interesting as evidence of how neorealism wasn't simply a clean break with the past, instead being an evolution of many of the asthetics in the Italian fascist-era cinema, and a testament to Rossellini's political naivety or indifference, but not much more than that.

Also "The Man from the Cross" would be a mistranslation of the Italian title. I don't know if there ever was an official English title but the closest translation would be The Man of the Cross.

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Re: Journey to Italy

#23 Post by knives » Fri Mar 08, 2013 10:01 pm

From was actually a typo on my part. I meant 'of the'.

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Re: Journey to Italy

#24 Post by Calvin » Fri Apr 12, 2013 6:23 pm

Restoration screening dates:

Preview – 17 April
Italian Film Festival, Edinburgh Filmhouse

From 10 May
BFI Southbank, London
Edinburgh Filmhouse, Edinburgh

17, 18, 20, 22 and 23 May
Cine Lumiere, London

20-21 May
Riverside Studios, Hammersmith, London

23 and 25 May
National Media Museum, Bradford

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Re: Journey to Italy

#25 Post by Calvin » Mon Apr 15, 2013 11:19 am

This will come as no surprise but I've had it confirmed to me via Twitter that the BFI will be releasing this on Blu-Ray.

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