Flipside 019: Deep End

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Nothing · #76 Post by **Nothing** » Tue May 24, 2011 6:03 am

A bit unnecessarily graphic, isn't it (the cover)? Makes it look like a sexploitation rip-off of Blow Up.

knives · #77 Post by **knives** » Tue May 24, 2011 6:08 am

If it catches people's attention I don't care what it's showing. I showed someone who had never even heard of Deep End before and they immediately commented on how striking the cover is.

MichaelB · #78 Post by **MichaelB** » Tue May 24, 2011 6:09 am

Nothing wrote:A bit unnecessarily graphic, isn't it (the cover)? Makes it look like a sexploitation rip-off of Blow Up.

When I worked on a revival of Belle de Jour in the early 1990s, we took a calculated decision to market it as an upmarket porn film (I think the tagline was "The Rolls-Royce of sex films") on the grounds that people who knew the film would come and see it anyway and those who didn't might find that description more enticing than a potentially off-putting tagline about Buñuel, Surrealism or major arthouse masterpieces. It clearly worked, as the film broke the house record at both its venues.

I'm assuming similar calculations fuelled this cover - which in any case is a perfectly fair reflection of the film's contents. In fact, given that John Moulder-Brown spends practically the entire running time fantasising about being in that position, it sums it up rather well.

nolanoe · #79 Post by **nolanoe** » Tue May 24, 2011 1:32 pm

Best Flipside cover for sure!!

MichaelB · #80 Post by **MichaelB** » Wed May 25, 2011 4:53 pm

Nothing wrote:A bit unnecessarily graphic, isn't it (the cover)? Makes it look like a sexploitation rip-off of Blow Up.

Have you seen the German cover?

nolanoe · #81 Post by **nolanoe** » Fri May 27, 2011 8:21 am

Obvious proof that we germans do it best!!

kneelzod · #82 Post by **kneelzod** » Sat May 28, 2011 11:07 am

I hope the spelling of Skolimowski's name will be corrected on the cover before the official release. It now reads, "A film by Jerzy Skolimovski."

MichaelB · #83 Post by **MichaelB** » Sat May 28, 2011 11:13 am

It does indeed - well spotted!

I'll make sure someone on the production team corrects it.

kneelzod · #84 Post by **kneelzod** » Sat May 28, 2011 11:26 am

Good to know, Michael. The image available at Amazon.uk was so large that it was easy to spot when viewing it in full size. It looks gorgeous, otherwise.

MichaelB · #85 Post by **MichaelB** » Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:41 pm

Full specs announced:

BFI Flipside presents: Deep End
A film by Jerzy Skolimowski
With Jane Asher, John Moulder-Brown, Diana Dors

After a critically acclaimed revival in cinemas in May, one of the greatest and most overlooked films of the 1970s finally makes its way onto DVD & Blu-ray (in a Dual Format Edition) as part of the BFI’s celebrated Flipside strand. Digitally remastered to HD, this long-awaited release includes a feature-length documentary containing recent interviews with stars Asher and Moulder-Brown as well as director Skolimowski, and a rare Jane Asher short film from 1977.

Unseen for decades, and yet considered to be one of the finest films directed by Polish filmmaker Jerzy Skolimowski (Essential Killing, Moonlighting), Deep End is an original, off-beat portrait of adolescent obsession set against a backdrop of London life in an era of uncertainty and changing sexual mores, starring Jane Asher, John Moulder-Brown and Diana Dors, with a soundtrack by Cat Stevens and legendary ‘Krautrock’ band Can.

The Swinging Sixties are over and the long, grey morning after has only just begun, but there are still eye-opening new experiences in store for naïve teenager Mike (John Moulder-Brown) when he takes a job at a rundown swimming baths. After one of its more mature visitors (Diana Dors, in a superb cameo) attempts to take advantage, Mike develops an increasingly obsessive interest in sassy, spoken-for co-worker Susan (Jane Asher). Giddily, he follows her into the grimy underbelly of Soho for a long dark night of the soul. Will Mike sabotage Susan's relationship with her fiancé and convince her to go with him instead?

Special features
• Presented in both High Definition and Standard Definition
• Starting Out: The Making of Jerzy Skolimowski’s Deep End (2010, 74 mins): a comprehensive new feature-length documentary;
• Deep End: The Deleted Scenes (2010, 12 mins): short documentary exploring the scenes that never made the grade;
• Original theatrical trailer;
• Careless Love (Francine Winham, 1977, 10 mins): rare and disturbing short film in which a woman (Jane Asher) takes drastic action to keep the affections of the man she loves;
• Illustrated booklet featuring new essays by David Thompson, Yvonne Tasker, and Skolimowski expert Ewa Mazierska.

Release date: 18 July 2011

RRP: £19.99 / cat. no. BFIB1063 / BFI Flipside no. 019 / Cert 15
Germany, UK / 1970 / colour / 91 mins / original aspect ratio 1.85:1 / region 0
Disc 1: BD50 / 1080p / 24fps / PCM mono audio (48k/24-bit)
Disc 2: DVD9 / PAL / PCM mono audio (48k/16-bit) (Extras Dolby Digital 320kbps)

I can also confirm that the typo on the original artwork has definitely been corrected!

kneelzod · #86 Post by **kneelzod** » Wed Jun 08, 2011 5:10 pm

Sounds great, Michael. I would have gladly bought it even with the cover snafu uncorrected!

I can play discs coded for any region, but I'm still curious, for my friends who are restricted to Region A, will this be a Region B disc or region free?

antnield · #87 Post by **antnield** » Wed Jun 08, 2011 5:21 pm

It's region free - just like it says in the press release

kneelzod · #88 Post by **kneelzod** » Fri Jun 10, 2011 6:03 pm

antnield wrote:It's region free - just like it says in the press release

Thanks, antnield. After scouring the fine print of the specs, I can now see where it says "Region 0," but numbers, of course, refer to DVD region codes. When a Blu-ray is playable in all regions, it will usually say, or should say, something to the effect of "Region ABC."

MichaelB · #89 Post by **MichaelB** » Sat Jun 11, 2011 2:44 am

I explicitly confirmed that this release was entirely region-free, both in this thread, on the BFI Region List and indeed the spin-off BFI Flipside Region List.

If you're ever unsure about the region status of a BFI Blu-ray release in the future, my region list is about as reliable as it gets. I only source my info directly from either the head of BFI DVD Publishing or the producer of the disc in question - and when it's the former, he usually checks with the latter himself before confirming.

It's also worth noting that BFI policy is to make their Blu-ray discs 1080p throughout, restricting SD material to the accompanying DVD. This is to ensure that they'll play perfectly on any player, as some non-European models have problems with 576p (PAL) SD video content - and of course the BFI's SD masters are PAL as a general rule. Obviously, the DVDs will be PAL too, so even the region-free ones might struggle with some non-European setups, though they should play perfectly in a Mac or PC.

kneelzod · #90 Post by **kneelzod** » Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:24 pm

Thanks for the thorough clarification, Michael.

antnield · #91 Post by **antnield** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 7:47 am

Three-disc collector's edition! Limited edition bonus DVD containing Q&A with Jane Asher and John Moulder Brown.

perkizitore · #92 Post by **perkizitore** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:43 am

Is this an Amazon exclusive and how 'limited' is it?

antnield · #93 Post by **antnield** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:03 am

It won't be an Amazon exclusive.

kneelzod · #94 Post by **kneelzod** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:40 am

Hmmm...5 more pounds for that extra disc. Is it worth it, I'm not sure. Is the Q & A with Brown and Asher taken from the footage shot for the documentary OR is it a Q & A from a public screening? How long?

perkizitore · #95 Post by **perkizitore** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:43 am

I guess it's the recent Q&A that they did at BFI Southbank in May.

Anthony · #96 Post by **Anthony** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:08 pm

Why the extra disc? Why Doesn't BFI just put everything on the BD? Why is BFI playing this "collector's edition" marketing game?

knives · #97 Post by **knives** » Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:30 pm

This is a major release and has more opportunity to get them money than something like Lunch Hour would have. In regards to the niche market they're dealing with this is an absolute blockbuster and a place where playing these sorts of games could work positively to generate revenue for pet projects like the Hitchcock restorations or the more obscure ends of the Flipside line. If having multiple versions out gives them the opportunity to release the sort of films they have then bring it on I say. Plus at least they are doing this all at once rather than creating a double dip situation.

MichaelB · #98 Post by **MichaelB** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 2:11 am

Anthony wrote:Why the extra disc? Why Doesn't BFI just put everything on the BD? Why is BFI playing this "collector's edition" marketing game?

I suspect the existing discs are already full to bursting - and it's BFI policy not to put SD video material on its Blu-ray discs, to maximise compatibility with every Blu-ray setup.

As for your second question, why not? In terms of cult profile and length of unavailability, this is probably the biggest Flipside title since The Bed-Sitting Room, and it has markedly better extras.

nolanoe · #99 Post by **nolanoe** » Thu Jun 16, 2011 7:42 am

Well, ACTUALLY it's the biggest since Herostratus.

The only thing I hope for right now is that the future Flipside releases will live up to this release, both in content and in the films that are chosen, but I don't worry too much about that. $\:D/$

By the way, any news on the missing SYMPTOMS yet?

rockysds · #100 Post by **rockysds** » Mon Jun 20, 2011 6:11 pm

The Collector's Edition is only £12.93 at amazon now, less than a quid more than the regular Dual Format release.

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