The Jacques Tati Collection
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- RossyG
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720p for the colour Jour de Fete and original Vacances????
- Sloper
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For what it's worth, I emailed the BFI yesterday and got this explanation just now:D50 wrote:Did the 5 set DVD Jacques Tati Collection ever come without a booklet?... The rear disc and set description makes no mention of a booklet. The ebay ad mentions the booklet. This OP mentions the booklet.
'Due to knowing that the rights were soon to expire and the fact that we had no more booklets available we took the decision that the last run we manufactured of the 5-disc Jacques Tati collection would be packaged without the booklet. We regret to say that due to the expiration of rights on these titles, no more booklets are available.'
A shame - but the guy who responded has been very helpful, so kudos to the BFI's customer service.
- D50
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Thanks for posting your response. I'm surprised by this set. I recognized several English subtitle differences between the Playtime BFI disc and the CC (one where the lady's comeback is missing - when she's asked to see inside her purse during the beginning when she comes through the French "tsa"), and several Playtime supplements that I didn't remember being on the CC disc (it was a netflix CC disc, so maybe I only had disc 1?).Sloper wrote:For what it's worth, I emailed the BFI yesterday and got this explanation just now:D50 wrote:Did the 5 set DVD Jacques Tati Collection ever come without a booklet?... The rear disc and set description makes no mention of a booklet. The ebay ad mentions the booklet. This OP mentions the booklet.
'Due to knowing that the rights were soon to expire and the fact that we had no more booklets available we took the decision that the last run we manufactured of the 5-disc Jacques Tati collection would be packaged without the booklet. We regret to say that due to the expiration of rights on these titles, no more booklets are available.'
A shame - but the guy who responded has been very helpful, so kudos to the BFI's customer service.
- D50
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I'd love to see the b&w Jour de fête.Jonathan S wrote:The highlights of the forthcoming StudioCanal set (discussion of which should perhaps be removed to a non-BFI thread) appear to be the two earliest shorts - On demande une brute will be new to me - and the original 1949 black & white release of Jour de fête. This apparently runs 10 minutes longer than the "restored" colour version that circulated in recent decades (I've always thought that looks awful, authentic colour or not). The set also presumably contains the French-language 1964 edit - which is how I first saw and owned the film in the UK - where as the BFI's Dual Format included an English-language 1964 version, I gather.
Incidentally a parallel DVD release of the StudioCanal set is scheduled for France but not the UK. According to the Amazon.fr specs, this will contain only one version of the first three features - and it's interesting they opted for the 1949 black & white Jour but the 1978 edition of Les vacances, presumably for quality reasons.
lol from variety's article:
Les Films de Mon Oncle handles Gallic theatrical, festivals.1967′s “Play Time"
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Along with being amazed that a "lol" has escaped Matt's notice for going on five hours now, I'm also not getting the source of the lols here.D50 wrote: lol from variety's article:Les Films de Mon Oncle handles Gallic theatrical, festivals.1967′s “Play Time"
- D50
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ot - sorry, I do not feed trolls.Perkins Cobb wrote: Along with being amazed that a "lol" has escaped Matt's notice for going on five hours now, I'm also not getting the source of the lols here.
thanks Sloper.
- PfR73
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He's not trolling. What exactly do you find funny about:
1967′s “Play Time"
?
And I mean the phrase or article, not the actual film. I know what's funny about that.
1967′s “Play Time"
?
And I mean the phrase or article, not the actual film. I know what's funny about that.
- D50
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The correct title is one word. You'd think a trade publication would have gotten it right.PfR73 wrote: He's not trolling. What exactly do you find funny about:
1967′s “Play Time"
?
And I mean the phrase or article, not the actual film. I know what's funny about that.
- PfR73
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Yeah, the onscreen title has the "T" in "Time" capitalized. I've always thought of it as 2 words.
- whaleallright
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Kristin Thompson has been arguing for the Play Time orthography for a while. She notes that it gently highlights the two concepts that make up the compound word: "play" and "time." "Play" in its broadest sense is absolutely central to Tati's work, and among other things Play Time is an experiment in duration: an entire day and night passes without obvious ellipsis in the course of about two hours.
And of course, "playtime" is what Hulot (inadvertently?) creates when he makes hash of modern civilization's rationalized segmentation and apportionment of time (and space, but who wants to see a film called Play Space?)
And of course, "playtime" is what Hulot (inadvertently?) creates when he makes hash of modern civilization's rationalized segmentation and apportionment of time (and space, but who wants to see a film called Play Space?)
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- D50
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She sure does: John Ford and the CITIZEN KANE assumption. Anyway, thanks for referencing her, as her blog is very interesting (re: bookmarked).jonah.77 wrote:Kristin Thompson has been arguing for the Play Time orthography for a while. She notes that it gently highlights the two concepts that make up the compound word: "play" and "time." "Play" in its broadest sense is absolutely central to Tati's work, and among other things Play Time is an experiment in duration: an entire day and night passes without obvious ellipsis in the course of about two hours.
- Matt
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And the title card itself has it as two distinct words.
- D50
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To me, that could be PlayTime, or Play Time.Matt wrote:And the title card itself has it as two distinct words.
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Looks like a pretty big space there if anyone really wanted it to be "PlayTime." And in the '60s, it would have been really strange to have a capital letter in the middle of a word like that. Virtually no one back then tried to pull any shit like "YouTube" and "DreamWorks."
- D50
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Good point. Though most of the references to that title, transposed into descriptions, articles, reviews, has been Playtime, one word.Gregory wrote:Looks like a pretty big space there if anyone really wanted it to be "PlayTime." And in the '60s, it would have been really strange to have a capital letter in the middle of a word like that. Virtually no one back then tried to pull any shit like "YouTube" and "DreamWorks."
eta: found the previously mentioned Kristin Thompson's thoughts on the subject:
In the Modernist Mirror: Jacques Tati and the Parisian Landscape
Author(s): Lee Hilliker
Source: The French Review, Vol. 76, No. 2 (Dec., 2002), pp. 318-329
search (hit the binoculars) pdf for two words.
second paragraph of page 328.
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Also Play is blue and Time is red.Gregory wrote:Looks like a pretty big space there if anyone really wanted it to be "PlayTime." And in the '60s, it would have been really strange to have a capital letter in the middle of a word like that. Virtually no one back then tried to pull any shit like "YouTube" and "DreamWorks."
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Also, guys, it's Week End.
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The Jacques Tati Collection
To me, it's unambiguously Play Time - obvious space between the two words, which are presented in different colours.D50 wrote:To me, that could be PlayTime, or Play Time.Matt wrote:And the title card itself has it as two distinct words.
Let's face it, the only reason you're arguing that it's PlayTime (given that even you now recognise that Playtime is no longer tenable) is because you decided to go all Nelson Muntz at some poor Variety hack who was reporting in perfectly good faith. Even if it had been a mistake, it wouldn't have been as hee-larious as you originally made out - although I can certainly see a funny side to this now!
(Especially your recent attempt to come over all scholarly, as though the internal evidence of the film's own title card was either irrelevant or just an equivalent of "just one man's opinion".)
- D50
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scholarly? now that's funny.MichaelB wrote:To me, it's unambiguously Play Time - obvious space between the two words, which are presented in different colours.D50 wrote:To me, that could be PlayTime, or Play Time.Matt wrote:And the title card itself has it as two distinct words.
Let's face it, the only reason you're arguing that it's PlayTime (given that even you now recognise that Playtime is no longer tenable) is because you decided to go all Nelson Muntz at some poor Variety hack who was reporting in perfectly good faith. Even if it had been a mistake, it wouldn't have been as hee-larious as you originally made out - although I can certainly see a funny side to this now!
(Especially your recent attempt to come over all scholarly, as though the internal evidence of the film's own title card was either irrelevant or just an equivalent of "just one man's opinion".)
- RossyG
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PlayTime or Play Time?
I've pre-ordered this set from MovieMail.
Or is it Movie Mail?
Do I give a fuck either way?
No, I don't.
Play Time's a fabulous film, though.
I've pre-ordered this set from MovieMail.
Or is it Movie Mail?
Do I give a fuck either way?
No, I don't.
Play Time's a fabulous film, though.
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lol is "do not" rofl wat a dummie u rRossyG wrote:No, I don't.
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It's very hard. I am not a native English speaker; today English is perhaps my third or fourth language. But even so, I can see that especially Americans have it wrong all the time. For instance, Newsweek magazine was very poor in this respect.
- whaleallright
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