Agreed! The first time I saw the film I found it great but unremittingly bleak. The humor comes out much more clearly in Krasznahorkai's novel, which will be published in the U.S. in English translation on February 21st.zedz wrote: Also, this might be the right place to dispel the impression that it's all doom and gloom - overall it's rather black, but it can also be funny, absurdist and extremely beautiful.
Béla Tarr
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And part of the absurdist delight comes from the extremity of Tarr's technique. When I saw the film for the first time I couldn't help grinning during the second(?) chapter when I realised that I was essentially watching a feature film that was all about a morbidly obese old man going to buy a bottle of plum brandy. And a really great feature film, at that.
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For god's sake zedz, tell us what you thought of The Turin Horse and where you'd place it compared to his other films; you're teasing us all in these Tarr threads.
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I've actually read a few reviews on The Turin Horse, and while all of them generally positive, I haven't seen one that acknowledges its place among his other work.
Is he going out with a bang or a whimper?
Is he going out with a bang or a whimper?
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Definitely a bang. It's as good as anything else he's done. I might call it his best but that could just be because it's the most fresh in my mind. Favorite moment:
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Loooooong take where they pack up to leave, disappear from the horizon, and then gradually return.
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Spoiler alert! Spoiler alert!zedz wrote:I couldn't help grinning during the second(?) chapter when I realised that I was essentially watching a feature film that was all about a morbidly obese old man going to buy a bottle of plum brandy.
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Ah, but I didn't say whether or not he managed to get the brandy. . .Cold Bishop wrote:Spoiler alert! Spoiler alert!zedz wrote:I couldn't help grinning during the second(?) chapter when I realised that I was essentially watching a feature film that was all about a morbidly obese old man going to buy a bottle of plum brandy.
I talked about it a bit in the 'Best of 2011' thread. It's up there with Satantango and Werckmeister Harmonies, and it's one of the greatest films of the century. I don't know if I could bring myself to describe Tarr 'going out with a bang' with this film with a straight face, however. (Swo will know what I mean.)Peacock wrote:For god's sake zedz, tell us what you thought of The Turin Horse and where you'd place it compared to his other films; you're teasing us all in these Tarr threads.
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Century and decade don't have that much a difference in this case though.
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There isn't much of a difference between anything when the world is over.
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Oh shit someone just blew my mind
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R. Emmet Sweeney's interview with Tarr.
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I'm sorry, but there are several points in this interview where I couldn't help but raise an eyebrow. Damnation not influenced by American film noir? Yeah right! If Tarr wasn't thinking of it (and I am almost certain he was) then Krasznahorkai certainly had it in mind. And this fairytale about Tarr discovering Lars Rudoph when he was a street musician? Rudolph had been in a fairly successful band, yes, but he had also been in numerous other films, including a Hal Hartley and international blockbuster Run Lola Run.John Cope wrote:R. Emmet Sweeney's interview with Tarr.
I'm looking forward to The Turin Horse, but I think Tarr could turn down the self-aggrandization a little.
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Michael do you know if its true that he is returing after the current film he's just finnished?
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He hasn't said anything different since his announcement before the premiere back in February last year.
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Tarr and three amigos at Midnight Sun Film Festival(Sodankylä,Finland)
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Guests also included Harriet Andersson and some younger talents.
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Guests also included Harriet Andersson and some younger talents.
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Has anyone here heard of Music and Literature Magazine? Their next issue will focus on Béla Tarr and László Krasznahorkai.
Edit: Max Neumann, who has collaborated with Krasznahorkai before, is the third featured artist on the issue.
Edit: Max Neumann, who has collaborated with Krasznahorkai before, is the third featured artist on the issue.
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Just wrote to the editor of Music & Literature: the Tarr/Krasznahorkai/Neumann issue comes out in April and includes a new essay on Satantango by Jonathan Rosenbaum and another new essay on The Man from London by Sergio Chejfec. Plus a portfolio of photographs taken by Gabor Medvigy taken on-set while shooting Satantango. You can pre-order it through their website or Amazon.
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English translation of a longish (90 page) monograph on Tarr called Bela Tarr, The Time After is coming out. Read about it here.
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There are 35mm showings of Sátántangó forthcoming in the UK, from A nos amours and Scalarama:
Saturday 6 September, ICA, London
Sunday 14 September, Centre for Contemporary Art, Glasgow
Sunday 21 September, Hyde Park Picturehouse, Leeds
Saturday 27 September, Tyneside Cinema, Newcastle
All showings start at 11am.
Saturday 6 September, ICA, London
Sunday 14 September, Centre for Contemporary Art, Glasgow
Sunday 21 September, Hyde Park Picturehouse, Leeds
Saturday 27 September, Tyneside Cinema, Newcastle
All showings start at 11am.
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Fantastic, Tyneside is my local independent, great to see them taking a punt on this.
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My Master's Voice: Béla Tarr Interviewed by J R Robinson of the band Wrekmeister Harmonies.
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Oh how I wished the article said that Criterion will be releasing Werckmeister Harmonies. Sigh.
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bagpipes and control
I was reading an article about bagpipes in rock and roll, and came across this quote:
Which made me think of Werckmeister Harmonies ...“Listening to music,” observes the French theorist Jacques Attali, “is listening to all noise, realizing that its appropriation and control is a reflection of power, that it is essentially political.”