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Re: Luchino Visconti on DVD

#151 Post by ellipsis7 » Fri Jan 29, 2010 6:34 am

Some specs on the SENSO Blu - no info on region coding & subs, and the aspect ratio surely wrong (should be 1.33:1)!...
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Livret intégré rédigé par Philipe Kemp, historien du cinéma et critique de films (20 pages)
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"Visconti, mon Maître" : interview de Francesco Rosi, assistant de Luchino Visconti sur le film (56'26")
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Re: Luchino Visconti on DVD

#152 Post by Tommaso » Sat Feb 20, 2010 7:00 am

agd wrote:Beware of the Italian DVD of "Vaghe stelle..." that came out in 2009 - pan and scan means that you won't watch the film as Visconti intended you to see it. (The same applies to the Brazilian DVD, by the way.)
Just compare it with the Japanese DVD and you will discover how much of the image you are missing!
Such a shame...
Hopefully the image will be restored when an American or British or French DVD is released...
Dammit, I didn't know about this, but was surprised that Visconti apparently had turned back to academy ratio when I watched that disc. It seems the Japanese disc is 1.66, which seems correct, but as I of course haven't seen it, I was wondering whether the Italian disc was perhaps just open matte. But if you say that indeed something is missing, then the Italian disc should be avoided, however strong the image quality is.

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Re: Luchino Visconti on DVD

#153 Post by david hare » Sat Feb 20, 2010 7:34 pm

This is the version that's up at a certain place (with fansubs.)

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I had thought it was the Italian Sony disc (which has been mentioned by jaredsap as coming in R1. The ratio looks like 1.75 or so to me, and dead right.

EDIT: A quick check elsewhere confirms the WS is the Jap DVD whereas the Italian Sony DVD is cropped - inexplicable!

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Re: Luchino Visconti on DVD

#154 Post by justeleblanc » Sat Feb 20, 2010 8:33 pm

Cropped or open matte? Sony has been known to release open matte on DVD before (R1 Anatomy of a Murder) whereas I don't know if they've ever released a cropped film that was originally projected with a matte.

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Re: Luchino Visconti on DVD

#155 Post by david hare » Sat Feb 20, 2010 9:47 pm

Juste the caps from the Sony Italy release look cropped to me. I dont want to post them here given their provenance.

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Re: Luchino Visconti on DVD

#156 Post by Tommaso » Sun Feb 21, 2010 7:51 am

Okay, I think this seals it.

Japanese dvd:

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My cap from the original Italian disc:
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And off to ebay it must go...

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Re: Luchino Visconti on DVD

#157 Post by 4LOM » Thu Feb 25, 2010 9:20 am

Screenshots of the German "StudioCanal Collection" Blu-ray (region "B" only) of Visconti's "Senso". Only French and German subtitles, no English ones, with Italian, French and German audio tracks. It's from the "StudioCanal, Centro Sperimentale di Cinematografia/Cineteca Nazionale and Cineteca di Bologna L’Immagine Ritrovata" restoration.

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Re: Luchino Visconti on DVD

#158 Post by Nothing » Thu Feb 25, 2010 5:12 pm

Agh, look beautiful. So Studio Canal don't have the UK rights to this (hence no English subs?) One for Masters of Cinema then, perhaps?

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Re: Luchino Visconti on DVD

#159 Post by tojoed » Thu Feb 25, 2010 5:21 pm

Nothing wrote:Agh, look beautiful. So Studio Canal don't have the UK rights to this (hence no English subs?) One for Masters of Cinema then, perhaps?
They do. It was released by Optimum on SD and it will get a Blu release later this year.

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Re: Luchino Visconti on DVD

#160 Post by ellipsis7 » Thu Feb 25, 2010 5:27 pm

Maybe, let's see... I went for Studo Canal SENSO Blu, and have just watched it through this evening (with French subs) on the big screen - a truly magnificent experience!.. It is such a great film, and Visconti on such top form, his operatic style manifest in a quality only second to THE LEOPARD... Noticed in the HD image a marvellously composed shot at the beginning - in the theatrical box, the Countess adjusts herself in the mirror, various officers are apparent in the reflection, and suddenly the curtain on the stage rises across the entire background of the reflection, as the next act starts... Never noticed that before...

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Re: Luchino Visconti on DVD

#161 Post by david hare » Thu Feb 25, 2010 6:39 pm

So is it a substantial improvement over the pretty good Cristaldi SD from last year (which was the same resto?)

I'm still hanging out for an English subbed version though, as this is one of those things it would be nice to show friends whose French skills (say) are even worse than mine, or non existent.) It's maddening to think Canal can't simply port over the exisiting subs they have from the earlier horrible SD version.

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Re: Luchino Visconti on DVD

#162 Post by ellipsis7 » Thu Feb 25, 2010 6:48 pm

David, it's not absolutely perfect -there's occasionally very slight edging when the 3 strips are not exactly aligned, and the colours are still slightly desaturated at times, black levels not always completely optimum -but there's a really tactile texture to the Blu, and the experience is so much richer than the Optimum DVD, and I guess also the improved Cristaldi dvd, which I've not seen... With the Blu you get the full operatic experience...

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Re: Luchino Visconti on DVD

#163 Post by david hare » Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:37 am

Thanx Ell..

I stil like the movie enough to really want it in Blu, and I have a terrible feeling this is the only Blu we're going to get.

And possibly quite a few more of the 2nd and 3rd wave of Canal Blu releases. Dammit!

Back to Senso, this is a 3 strip neg filming job of course, but I had not thought there was any fringing issue in the Cristaldi DVD. It's very curious, you know, there is no trace of fringing in the Optimum/Canal Ladykillers, yet the Blu seems very soft (not bad, just soft) and the wides - St Pancras Station wides and mattes for instance - look virtually like they are fringing. (Yet they dont in the overly red boosted Canal SD.)
Va savoir!

the other issue with Ladykillers it seems to me, is that this should not have been a three strip camera job in 1955. Yet the booklet indicates it was... in 1955?? In the UK??

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Re: Luchino Visconti on DVD

#164 Post by tenia » Fri Apr 23, 2010 3:32 pm

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Re: Luchino Visconti on DVD

#165 Post by Rupert Pupkin » Fri Oct 29, 2010 1:20 am

Tommaso wrote:Okay, I think this seals it.

Japanese dvd:

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My cap from the original Italian disc:
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Too bad for the Italian Sony DVD. The restoration was excellent, but with this unforgiven cropped version we lost all the beautiful cinematography of this movie. For instance, when Jean Sorel tries to "borrow" Sandra (Claudia Cardinale)'s ring, all the architectural backrgound of this scene is totally ruined because of the cropping.

but...
:oops: Sony/Criterion gave us a stunning Repulsion... there's no chance of a Sony/Criterion Sandra on blu ? [-o< [-o<

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Re: Luchino Visconti on DVD

#166 Post by Saimo » Wed Jul 06, 2011 3:57 am

Ossessione € 6.99 (film and bonus with English and French subs)

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Re: Luchino Visconti on DVD

#167 Post by Toby Dammit » Sat Sep 24, 2011 12:40 pm

Medusa (Italy) has announced Visconti's "The Leopard" for BD in November 17th. I'm curious to see if they will use the 2010 restoration from The Film Foundation
Il Gattopardo [Italy, 1963]
Tratto dal romanzo di Giuseppe Tomasi di Lampedusa.
Regia: Luchino Visconti
Cast: Burt Lancaster, Claudia Cardinale, Alain Delon, Paolo Stoppa, Rina Morelli, Romolo Valli, Terence Hill, Pierre Clémenti

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La Sicilia del 1860 viene sconvolta dall’annuncio dello sbarco garibaldino. Il principe don Fabrizio di Salina sceglie per l’annessione del proprio feudo di Donnafugata allo Stato Sabaudo. Inoltre favorisce il fidanzamento del nipote Tancredi con la bella Angelica Sedàra, figlia di un ricco parvenu. Il nipote inizia così la propria scalata sociale nel nuovo ordine, mentre lo zio preferisce restare legato alla tradizione. Unico baluardo di un mondo in via di dissoluzione, il principe sente forte il senso della fine, e quando durante il ballo, per festeggiare la scongiurata rivoluzione, si vede attorniato da gente ormai troppo diversa da lui si rassegna a morire. Critica al trasformismo della classe politica, pronta a indossare l’habitus nuovo per inscenare la solita storia, “se vogliamo che tutto rimanga com’è, bisogna che tutto cambi”, il film di Luchino Visconti è perfetto nella ricostruzione storica. Palma d’Oro al Festival di Cannes.

Lingue principali: Italiano / Audio Italiano: 2.0 DTS-HD
Sottotitoli principali: Italiano per non udenti, Inglese per non udenti
Rapporto schermo: 2.35:1 Anamorfico

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Intervista esclusiva al produttore Goffredo Lombardo
Speciale: Il Gattopardo - Un viaggio nella memoria
Documentario sul restauro con intervista a Giuseppe Rotunno
Cinegiornale
Cinecronaca
Galleria dei bozzetti dei costumi di Piero Tosi
Galleria fotografica
Galleria fotografica delle scenografie di Mario Garbuglia
Libro de "Il Gattopardo" di Tomasi di Lampedusa.
PD: How they made that cover so poorly designed!!??

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Rocco and His Brothers Blu-ray Coming Up


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This winter, French distributors TF1 Video will release on Blu-ray Luchino Visconti's acclaimed Rocco e i suoi fratelli a.k.a Rocco and His Brothers (1960), starring Alain Delon, Claudia Cardinale, Renato Salvatori, Annie Girardot, and Nino Castelnuovo. In 1960, the film won Special Prize and FIPRESCI Prize at the Venice Film Festival. Street date is December 7th.

In the U.S., Rocco and His Brothers is currently out of print (the last DVD release was produced by Image Entertainment). In the UK, the film is distributed by Eureka Entertainment and is currently available on DVD as part of the Masters of Cinema series.

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Re: Luchino Visconti on DVD

#168 Post by ellipsis7 » Sat Sep 24, 2011 1:52 pm

An opportunity for MoC to upgrade to dual format?

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Re: Luchino Visconti on DVD

#169 Post by perkizitore » Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:05 pm

Any reviews of the Australian blu-ray?

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Re: Luchino Visconti on DVD

#170 Post by John Edmond » Sun Oct 09, 2011 8:17 pm

Australian reviewers are slack. I'll keep an eye out for it in my local rentals (they're reasonably good) if it pops up I'll let you know how it looks in comparison.

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Re: Luchino Visconti on DVD

#171 Post by Toby Dammit » Tue Dec 27, 2011 12:00 pm

Any news on Rocco's BluRay?

Does anyone know when this will be released?

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Re: Luchino Visconti on DVD

#172 Post by rohmerin » Thu Mar 01, 2012 7:26 am

Le streghe (THE WITCHES, United Artist) has been released on a poor DVD here in Spain by a strange company that we don't know where they get their films. Review

Le streghe is on USA ala demande !

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Re: Luchino Visconti on DVD

#173 Post by Fred Holywell » Mon May 07, 2012 4:12 am

Caught the beginning of "Rocco & His Brothers" on TCM tonight in the hope that it would bear a Janus logo at the start, but unfortunately it did not. In fact, the print shown looked like the rather lousy Milestone laserdisc master; blurry, spliced, and yellow-subtitled, to boot. Any chance that this title might turn up as a Criterion release seems pretty slim.

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#174 Post by rohmerin » Mon Dec 24, 2012 3:43 pm

Magnificent aprox. 80 minutes BBC documentary about Visconti with interviews to the actual family and visiting Lake Como villa, and family palazzi. BBC marks the difference when they make a documentary all doors are open. For RAI and Carlo Lizzani, not so much.

Part 8 is missing, probably Fox complained about The leopard. But the rest 11 parts works well.

Excellent doc.

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#175 Post by Lowry_Sam » Fri Jul 19, 2013 3:06 am

I thought I heard something about a restoration of Rocco & His Brothers, but in looking online I don't see anything...perhaps it was just my wishful thinking, as the current (US) dvd is horrible & I've held out buying the MOC in hopes of a blu-ray release some time soon.

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