Jacques Rivette

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1026 Post by domino harvey » Sat Jan 23, 2016 12:12 pm

Jonathan Rosenbaum said in his Reddit AMA a few months ago that we shouldn't expect to see his extras and that he hadn't heard anything about the release and assumed it abandoned

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1027 Post by MichaelB » Sat Jan 23, 2016 5:39 pm

Who would have imagined that we'd see a day where Céline and Julie would be the only 1971-83 Rivette film not available on English-friendly Blu-ray?

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1028 Post by justeleblanc » Sun Jan 24, 2016 2:58 am

domino harvey wrote:Jonathan Rosenbaum said in his Reddit AMA a few months ago that we shouldn't expect to see his extras and that he hadn't heard anything about the release and assumed it abandoned
Well that's sad.

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1029 Post by feihong » Sun Jan 24, 2016 6:55 am

It's sad that New Yorker still gets to hang onto these rights. They really need to go to a company that can make a blu-ray of the film happen.

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1030 Post by bearcuborg » Sun Jan 24, 2016 8:05 am

If memory serves from past conversations I've had with Jonathan, he also didn't think much of the project he worked on for the DVD release. So it appears to be of no loss, at least from an extras perspective.

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#1031 Post by kekid » Sun Jan 24, 2016 4:08 pm

MichaelB wrote:Who would have imagined that we'd see a day where Céline and Julie would be the only 1971-83 Rivette film not available on English-friendly Blu-ray?
Who owns the rights to Celine and Julie in UK?

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#1032 Post by domino harvey » Sun Jan 24, 2016 4:16 pm

BFI

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#1033 Post by MichaelB » Sun Jan 24, 2016 6:46 pm

Assuming they haven't expired - that disc came out nearly a decade ago.

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1034 Post by kekid » Sun Jan 24, 2016 8:54 pm

domino harvey wrote:BFI
Hoping for New Yorker to do something about this item seems futile.
Hence my hope is that its cause will be taken up by someone in Region 2.
If the rights are still with the BFI, why have they not shown interest so far?
If the rights have expired, who has them, or who can acquire them?

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1035 Post by justeleblanc » Sun Jan 24, 2016 9:36 pm

Does anyone remember exactly what happened during the supposed auction of NYer's catalog about 10 years ago? My recollection was that sometime in 2009 NYer announced that it was going to sell of its ownings in bundles, and several small distributors showed up to the "auction" expecting to buy the distribution rights to many films in their 40-year catalog... but because the contracts were in such disarray, Technicolor came in and purchased the entire lot in some form of a bail out. Was this in fact what happened, or have I misremembered/misheard the story?

In any event, I agree it seems more likely that a nice blu of Celine & Julie would see a BFI release long before it sees a stateside release.

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#1036 Post by Gregory » Sun Jan 24, 2016 10:12 pm

My understanding was that New Yorker had been acquired by a company called Aladdin Media Group, cofounded by Christopher Harbonville of New Yorker, which announced plans to release My Dog Tulip, Octubre, Turn Me On Dammit!, Céline and Julie, and others, six to eight titles a year. The first three of those came out with the New Yorker brand, but then apparently nothing else the past few years.

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1037 Post by MichaelB » Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:22 am

kekid wrote:If the rights are still with the BFI, why have they not shown interest so far?
Is there an HD master out there? Because creating one from scratch would most likely be prohibitively expensive, given the running time - and funding it would be a challenge as it arguably wouldn't be within the BFI's current cultural remit (which for the last decade or so has been to focus on British cinema and its own holdings.

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1038 Post by Calvin » Mon Jan 25, 2016 4:55 am

MichaelB wrote:
kekid wrote:If the rights are still with the BFI, why have they not shown interest so far?
Is there an HD master out there?
Presumably - the CNC funded a restoration in March 2013

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#1039 Post by MichaelB » Mon Jan 25, 2016 5:47 am

In which case I suspect the answer is that the DVD was never a bestseller and that the BFI has other priorities right now - especially since their funding has been steadily reduced over the last five years or so.

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1040 Post by Noiretirc » Wed Jan 27, 2016 4:48 am

I can see from this thread that it will be very unwise of me to admit that I was riveted (ba dum tsssh) by the long improv scene conducted by Thomas's group in Episode 1. These guys are good! Perhaps having an extended scene of this, filmed very thoroughly and energetically, in what seems to be a narrative film, is shocking all by itself. (And now I'm learning about Aeschylus, thank you very much.) I thought the first 90min of this flew by. I'm thrilled to have Out 1 in my life.

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1041 Post by Newsnayr » Wed Jan 27, 2016 5:06 am

I saw Out 1 in a 13-hour screening on Sunday, and it was an absolutely incredible experience, if strongly exhausting. The film (my first Rivette) is without a near-masterpiece for me, and utterly mysterious and lovely.

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1042 Post by Luke M » Fri Jan 29, 2016 12:53 pm


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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1043 Post by Ted Todorov » Fri Jan 29, 2016 5:07 pm

Drucker wrote:Wasn't Celine and Julie restored? I know it played Film Forum a few years ago.
It played as part of the Lynch/Rivette festival at the Walter Reade (Lincoln Center) last month and looked fine.

Also, the Walter Reade is showing http://www.filmlinc.org/films/love-on-the-ground/ next week.

I hope that Rivette's passing will make Criterion as interested in him as so many of New York City's movie theaters have consistently been, including the Film Society of Lincoln Center; Museum of Moving Image; Film Forum; Anthology Film Archives, etc.

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1044 Post by furbicide » Fri Jan 29, 2016 8:01 pm

Very sad news. Cinema won't be the same without him. :cry:

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1045 Post by domino harvey » Fri Jan 29, 2016 8:04 pm

He also gave one of my all-time favorite bits of film criticism, one I think of all the time (far more than the film he's discussing, to be sure): "Of all the recent American films that were set in Las Vegas, Showgirls was the only one that was real - take my word for it. I who have never set foot in the place!"

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1046 Post by Michael Kerpan » Sat Jan 30, 2016 12:58 am

domino harvey wrote: ... take my word for it. I who have never set foot in the place!"
I never could figure out just how much leg pulling Rivette was doing in that (very funny) interview.

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1047 Post by How rude! » Sat Jan 30, 2016 10:04 pm

While we wait, desperate, longing for the shiny new boxset, his soul departs.

It will arrive now, not as a delivery, but an offering.

I plan to light a candle and watch Out 1 in it's entirety, until the candle burns down, flickering spasmodically for the briefest moment before the room is plunged into darkness.

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1048 Post by Noiretirc » Mon Feb 01, 2016 4:24 am

Did anyone ever tabulate the number of cigarettes smoked in Out 1?

Seriously though, I'd like to know if the brief black and white segments which begin episodes 2-8 of Out 1, which are flashbacks to the previous episode, were included in the original film, please and thanks.

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#1049 Post by cinemartin » Mon Feb 01, 2016 7:10 am

What do you mean by original film?

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Re: Jacques Rivette

#1050 Post by justeleblanc » Mon Feb 01, 2016 12:08 pm

Those black and white segments were included in the print that I saw in 2007, so I assume they were included in the original film.

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