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2016 Criterion Forum Awards

#1 Post by domino harvey » Thu Sep 15, 2016 5:30 pm

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IMPORTANT NOTE
Voting starts once the last release of December is unleashed on the populace, December 13th. You may post in this thread before that, but any lists posted early will, as always, be deleted and your message replaced with Gossip Girl GIFs.

Please either post your votes in this thread or PM me, domino harvey. You may or may not vote in most categories, but you must provide a ranked Top Five to be counted at all. No ties will be counted in any category, so make the hard decision if you want your vote to matter.

VOTING CLOSES JANUARY 13 2017


And your 2016 Criterion Awards categories are…
BEST RELEASE Numbered in order from 1-5. Must vote for five titles to have your ballot counted
BEST BOXED SET
BEST MODERN FILM "New" (within the last five years) films released by Criterion

BEST COMMENTARY New commentaries only, not ports of existing discs from other labels/studios (see list below)
BEST "BONUS" FILM See list below
BEST BOOKLET
BEST ON-DISC NON-COMMENTARY EXTRA

BEST REISSUE
BEST UPGRADE

BEST COVER
WORST COVER Do we need a primary to whittle the options down?
BEST PACKAGING

BEST DISCOVERY For the film that is, as the NBC commercials used to say, new to you
MOST UNNECESSARY RELEASE A new category! For the film that didn’t need to join the Collection, either for personal reasons (you hate it) or because Criterion’s additions added little to already available editions
MOST FLAWED RELEASE Name adjustment! For Criterion's treatment, not the film itself

BEST THREAD For the discussion that yielded the most interesting insights or entertainment this year
MEMBER OF THE YEAR For the member with the best contributions to the forum this year
RICHARD CRANIUM AWARD For the member with the worst contributions to the forum this year


2016 RELEASES
790-791 Lady Snowblood / Lady Snowblood: Love Song of Vengeance
792 Bitter Rice
793 the American Friend
794 Inside Llewyn Davis
795 Gilda
796-797 the Emigrants / the New Land
798 Death by Hanging
799 the Kid
800 the Graduate
801 I Knew Her Well
802 Paris Belongs to Us
803 the Manchurian Candidate
804 A Brighter Summer Day
805 A Poem is a Naked Person
806 Only Angels Have Wings
807 Barcelona
808 the Kennedy Films of Robert Drew & Associates
809 Phoenix
810 In a Lonely Place
811 the Naked Island
812 the Player
813-816 Wim Wenders: the Road Trilogy
— Alice in the Cities
— Wrong Move
— Kings of the Road

817 Le amiche
818 La chienne
819 Here Comes Mr Jordan
820 Fantastic Planet
821 Dr Strangelove, or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb
822 Clouds of Sils Maria
823 the In-Laws
824 Muriel, or the Time of Return
825 A Touch of Zen
826 the New World
827 McCabe and Mrs Miller
828 Ingrid Bergman: In Her Own Words
829 A Taste of Honey
830 Chimes at Midnight
831 the Immortal Story
832 the Story of the Last Chrysanthemum
833 Cat People
834 Blood Simple
835 Valley of the Dolls
836 Beyond the Valley of the Dolls
837 Dekalog
838 Pan’s Labyrinth
839 Boyhood
840 the Executioner
841 Lone Wolf and Cub
— Sword of Vengeance
— Baby Cart at the River Styx
— Baby Cart to Hades
— Baby Cart in Peril
— Baby Cart in the Land of Demons
— White Heaven in Hell

842 Akira Kurosawa’s Dreams
843 Punch-Drunk Love
844 One-Eyed Jacks
845 the Squid and the Whale
846 Heart of a Dog
847 the Asphalt Jungle
848 Roma

REISSUES
63 Carnival of Souls
197 Night and Fog
265 Short Cuts

UPGRADES
374 Bicycle Thieves
394 Woman in the Dunes
459 the Exterminating Angel
523 Night Train to Munich

COLLECTED SETS (Not eligible for Best Boxed Set)
3 Films by Whit Stillman
Trilogia de Guillermo del Toro

BONUS FILMS
Giuseppe De Santis (Bitter Rice)
Another Day, Another Time (Inside Llewyn Davis)
Sunday (Inside Llewyn Davis)
Diary of Yunbogi (Death by Hanging)
Nice and Friendly (the Kid)
Le Coup du berger (Paris Belongs to Us)
Likely Consequence (A Brighter Summer Day)
Our Time, Our Story (A Brighter Summer Day)
Out in the Woods (A Poem Is a Naked Person)
I'm a Stranger Here Myself (In a Lonely Place)
Robert Altman's Players (The Player)
Same Player Shoots Again (Alice in the Cities)
Silver City Revisited (Alice in the Cities)
On purge bébé (La Chienne)
Les Temps morts (Fantastic Planet)
Les Escargots (Fantastic Planet)
Laloux sauvage (Fantastic Planet)
Cloud Phenomena of Maloja (Clouds of Sils Maria)
King Hu: 1932-1997 (A Touch of Zen)
Momma Don't Allow (A Taste of Honey)
Portrait: Orson Welles (the Immortal Story)
Val Lewton: The Man in the Shadows (Cat People)
A Short Film About Killing (Dekalog)
A Short Film About Love (Dekalog)
Making of "Dreams" (Akira Kurosawa's Dreams)
Shogun Assassin (Lone Wolf and Cub)
Sword of the Samurai (Lone Wolf and Cub)
Pharos of Chaos (the Asphalt Jungle)

LIST OF ELIGIBLE COMMENTARIES
Inside Llewyn Davis
the Kid
A Brighter Summer Day
Primary
In a Lonely Place
Chimes at Midnight
Boyhood
Akira Kurosawa's Dreams
Roma


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Cover collage by Minkin, commentaries and bonus films compiled by swo17

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Re: 2016 Criterion Forum Awards

#2 Post by tenia » Thu Sep 15, 2016 5:44 pm

How fortunate, I love Gossip Girl ! (though I would have preferred One Tree Hill gifs instead).
Any joke aside, there isn't a lot of boxset this year, but it might be quite hard to choose between them 3.

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#3 Post by eastguy » Thu Sep 15, 2016 5:55 pm

Bicycle Thieves needs to be added to the upgrades, right?

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Re: 2016 Criterion Forum Awards

#4 Post by domino harvey » Thu Sep 15, 2016 5:56 pm

Yes, thank you!

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Re: 2016 Criterion Forum Awards

#5 Post by swo17 » Thu Sep 15, 2016 5:57 pm

I believe these are all the bonus films this year. Documentaries are tricky--I'm intentionally leaving out made-for-DVD ones or making-of's unless they're made by a big name or appear to have screened somewhere.

Giuseppe De Santis (Bitter Rice)
Another Day, Another Time (Inside Llewyn Davis)
Sunday (Inside Llewyn Davis)
Diary of Yunbogi (Death by Hanging)
Nice and Friendly (The Kid)
Le Coup du berger (Paris Belongs to Us)
Likely Consequence (A Brighter Summer Day)
Our Time, Our Story (A Brighter Summer Day)
Out in the Woods (A Poem Is a Naked Person)
I'm a Stranger Here Myself (In a Lonely Place)
Robert Altman's Players (The Player)
Same Player Shoots Again (Alice in the Cities)
Silver City Revisited (Alice in the Cities)
On purge bébé (La Chienne)
Les Temps morts (Fantastic Planet)
Les Escargots (Fantastic Planet)
Laloux sauvage (Fantastic Planet)
Cloud Phenomena of Maloja (Clouds of Sils Maria)
King Hu: 1932-1997 (A Touch of Zen)
Momma Don't Allow (A Taste of Honey)
Portrait: Orson Welles (The Immortal Story)
Val Lewton: The Man in the Shadows (Cat People)
A Short Film About Killing (Dekalog)
A Short Film About Love (Dekalog)
Making of "Dreams" (Akira Kurosawa's Dreams)
Shogun Assassin (Lone Wolf and Cub)
"Silent documentary from 1939 about the making of samurai swords" (Lone Wolf and Cub)
Pharos of Chaos (The Asphalt Jungle)

And I believe these are all the releases with eligible commentaries:

Inside Llewyn Davis
The Kid
A Brighter Summer Day
In a Lonely Place
Chimes at Midnight
Boyhood
Akira Kurosawa's Dreams
Roma

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Re: 2016 Criterion Forum Awards

#6 Post by zedz » Thu Sep 15, 2016 6:28 pm

I know the Richard Cranium Award is pretty much all sewn up for this year (barring something absolutely spectacular happening in the coming months), but it would be nice if people could nominate any other contenders, with links, so as to create at least the semblance of competition.

Should Likely Consequence on A Brighter Summer Day be added to swo's bonus films list? It's in a bit of a grey area, but it's a lot more interesting than the doc on that disc.

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Re: 2016 Criterion Forum Awards

#7 Post by swo17 » Thu Sep 15, 2016 6:50 pm


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#8 Post by Mungo » Thu Sep 15, 2016 6:51 pm

zedz wrote:Should Likely Consequence on A Brighter Summer Day be added to swo's bonus films list? It's in a bit of a grey area, but it's a lot more interesting than the doc on that disc.
I second the motion. It's certainly not a short or shallow feature.

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Re: 2016 Criterion Forum Awards

#9 Post by movielocke » Thu Sep 15, 2016 6:51 pm

Primary, both cuts has new commentary, I believe, and it is outstanding.

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Re: 2016 Criterion Forum Awards

#10 Post by swo17 » Thu Sep 15, 2016 7:09 pm

It's a non-scene-specific assemblage of audio recorded in 1961. I don't think it had been released previously though...

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Re: 2016 Criterion Forum Awards

#11 Post by Mungo » Sun Sep 18, 2016 4:51 pm

Do the foldouts count as booklets?

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#12 Post by swo17 » Sun Sep 18, 2016 4:53 pm

Yes though it's usually the thicker books that garner most of the votes.

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Re: 2016 Criterion Forum Awards

#13 Post by Ashirg » Sun Sep 18, 2016 5:00 pm

Maybe we can have a separate vote for the best foldout poster...

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Re: 2016 Criterion Forum Awards

#14 Post by domino harvey » Tue Dec 13, 2016 12:38 pm

Voting now open

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Re: 2016 Criterion Forum Awards

#15 Post by swo17 » Tue Dec 13, 2016 12:52 pm

Best Release
A Brighter Summer Day
Chimes at Midnight
La Chienne
One-Eyed Jacks
The Emigrants/The New Land

Best Boxed Set
Wim Wenders: The Road Trilogy

Best Modern Release
Phoenix

Best Commentary
A Brighter Summer Day

Best Bonus Film
A Short Film About Love

Best Book/Booklet
Trilogía de Guillermo del Toro

Best Other Supplement
Ingrid Bergman's home movies

Best Reissue
Night and Fog

Best Blu-ray Upgrade
Bicycle Thieves

Best Cover
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Worst Cover
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Best Packaging
Lone Wolf and Cub

Best Discovery
Heart of a Dog

Most Unnecessary
The Player

Most Flawed
Carnival of Souls, for dropping too much material from the original DVD

Best Thread
The All-Time List Discussion Thread. It started off strong anyway.

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Best Non-Criterion Releases
Bogdan Dziworski: Polska Szkoła Dokumentu (PWA)
Dekalog and Other Television Works (Arrow)
Dissent & Disruption: Alan Clarke at the BBC (BFI)
The Herschell Gordon Lewis Feast (Arrow)
It's Such a Beautiful Day (Bitter Films)
The Jacques Rivette Collection (Arrow)
Joshua Oppenheimer: Early Works (Second Run)
Masterpieces of Polish Cinema Volumes 2-3 (DI Factory)
Napoleon (BFI)
Robert Breer: A to Z (Re:Voir)

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Re: 2016 Criterion Forum Awards

#16 Post by criterionsnob » Tue Dec 13, 2016 1:17 pm

BEST RELEASE
1. Dekalog
2. A Brighter Summer Day
3. The Emigrants/The New Land
4. McCabe & Mrs. Miller
5. Wim Wenders: The Road Trilogy

BEST BOXED SET
Dekalog

BEST MODERN FILM
Clouds of Sils Maria

BEST COMMENTARY
A Brighter Summer Day

BEST "BONUS" FILM
A Short Film About Love (Dekalog)

BEST BOOKLET
The New World

BEST ON-DISC NON-COMMENTARY EXTRA
Way Out on a Limb (McCabe & Mrs. Miller)

BEST REISSUE
Short Cuts

BEST UPGRADE
Bicycle Thieves

BEST COVER
Fantastic Planet

WORST COVER
The Immortal Story

BEST PACKAGING
Dr. Strangelove

BEST DISCOVERY
Phoenix

MOST UNNECESSARY RELEASE
The In-Laws

MOST FLAWED RELEASE
Dekalog (Episodes should have been spread out over more discs)

BEST NON-CRITERION RELEASES (BLU-RAY)
1. Dissent & Disruption: The Complete Alan Clarke at the BBC [Arrow]
2. Arabian Nights [Kino Lorber]
3. Jane B. Par Agnès V. / Kung Fu Master [Cinelicious Pics]
4. The Rainer Werner Fassbinder Collection [Arrow]
5. Cemetery of Splendour [Strand]
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Re: 2016 Criterion Forum Awards

#17 Post by Ribs » Tue Dec 13, 2016 2:02 pm

BEST RELEASE
1. The Kennedy Films of Robert Drew & Associates
2. The Emigrants / The New Land
3. A Brighter Summer Day
4. Dekalog
5. The Executioner

BEST BOXED SET
Dekalog

BEST MODERN FILM
Clouds of Sils Maria

BEST COMMENTARY
Chimes at Midnight

BEST BOOKLET
The Kennedy Films of Robert Drew & Associates

BEST ON-DISC NON-COMMENTARY EXTRA
Interview with Sharon Malone & Eric Holder, The Kennedy Films of Robert Drew & Associates

BEST UPGRADE
Bicycle Thieves

BEST COVER
The Executioner

WORST COVER
Heart of a Dog

BEST PACKAGING
Dekalog
(runners-up: Phoenix / Clouds of Sils Maria)

BEST DISCOVERY
The Kennedy Films of Robert Drew & Associates

MOST UNNECESSARY RELEASE
Ingrid Berman: In Her Own Words (I'm sure it's *good* and everything, but come on, this warrants a BD because it was a Janus title and Weiner doesn't because it was IFC?)

MOST FLAWED RELEASE
Dekalog (yes, it a fantastic and wonderful release, but the fact that the Arrow is so much better really shows how much more could have been done; but we have both so it's alright!)

BEST NON-CRITERION RELEASES
The Rainer Werner Fassbinder Collection (I've been going through this *super* slowly, but it's just absolutely STACKED with material and I feel like it's been slept on as the best Arrow set of the year)
Dekalog and Other TV Works (basically does every single thing you can possibly imagine right)
Three Brothers (transfer and film are great, obviously, but I must once again point to the absolutely *amazing* essay in the booklet, which is pretty much the main reason to buy this, it is thorough to the point of lunacy)
Literally every other Arrow set, because the Academy range of box sets have been nothing but fantastic from beginning to end
Rocco and His Brothers
Man With a Movie Camera and Other Works by Dziga Vertov (just fantastic, there's really nothing more to say)
Bound for Glory (yes, this will be the one TT title I opt to list; I'm just so thrilled to be able to have this on BD, even if it the actual release may not be super up to snuff and will likely be improved upon by MoC or someone in due course; this is one I'm not going to mind the double-dip on.)

I haven't checked out Napoleon yet but I expect it won't need my vouching for it.

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Re: 2016 Criterion Forum Awards

#18 Post by cdnchris » Tue Dec 13, 2016 2:54 pm

Best Release
Inside Llewyn Davis
Akira Kurosawa's Dreams
Blood Simple
The New World
The Player

Best Boxed Set
Lone Wold and Cub

Best Modern Film
Phoenix

Best Commentary
A Brighter Summer Day

Best Bonus Film
A Short Film About Love

Best Booklet
Trilogia de Guillermo del Toro

Best On-Disc Non-Commentary Extra
Coens/Sonnenfeld "lecture" on the film's cinematography for Blood Simple

Best Reissue
Night and Fog

Best Upgrade
Bicycle Thieves

Best Cover
Dr. Strangelove

Worst Cover
Paris Belongs to Us

Best Packaging
Dr. Strangelove

Best Discovery
The Executioner

Most Unnecessary
Dr. Strangelove (it's a good edition and the new supplements are good, but the Sony one was fine all on its own)

Most Flawed
The Exterminating Angel

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#19 Post by dwk » Tue Dec 13, 2016 4:22 pm

BEST RELEASE
1. Akira Kurosawa's Dreams
2. Blood Simple
3. Lone Wolf and Cub
4. The New World
5. Lady Snowblood

BEST BOXED SET
Lone Wolf and Cub

BEST MODERN FILM
Inside Llewyn Davis

BEST COMMENTARY
A Brighter Summer Day

BEST "BONUS" FILM
Sword of the Samurai (Lone Wolf and Cub)

BEST BOOKLET
Trilogia de Guillermo del Toro

BEST ON-DISC NON-COMMENTARY EXTRA
"Shooting Blood Simple" with Joel and Ethan Coen and Barry Sonnenfeld

BEST REISSUE
Carnival of Souls

BEST UPGRADE
Bicycle Thieves

BEST COVER
Lady Snowblood

WORST COVER
Paris Belongs to US

BEST PACKAGING
Lone Wolf and Cub

BEST DISCOVERY
Heart of a Dog

MOST FLAWED RELEASE
The Exterminating Angel

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Re: 2016 Criterion Forum Awards

#20 Post by Costa » Tue Dec 13, 2016 4:58 pm

excuse me, best release refers to the bluray as a film, or overall as a film + release (quality, extras, cover, package etc.)?

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Re: 2016 Criterion Forum Awards

#21 Post by Drucker » Tue Dec 13, 2016 5:05 pm

The latter. You may not love the film but enjoy the extras.

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#22 Post by swo17 » Tue Dec 13, 2016 5:26 pm

Punch-Drunk Love is one of my very favorite films but it didn't make my ballot because Criterion's treatment of it didn't really bowl me over.

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Re: 2016 Criterion Forum Awards

#23 Post by AfterTheRain » Tue Dec 13, 2016 5:34 pm

Best Release
Akira Kurosawa's Dreams
McCabe & Mrs. Miller
The Graduate
La chienne
Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb

Best Boxed Set
Wim Wenders: The Road Trilogy

Best Modern Film
Heart of a Dog

Best Commentary
The Kid

Best Bonus Film
I'm a Stranger Here Myself (In a Lonely Place)

Best Non-Commentary Extra
Kurosawa's Way (Akira Kurosawa's Dreams)

Best Reissue
Night and Fog

Best Upgrade
Bicycle Thieves

Best Cover
(tie) Roma, Akira Kurosawa's Dreams, & La chienne

Worst Cover
Carnival of Souls (Why couldn't they just have stuck with the original poster art for the cover?)

Best Packaging
Trilogia de Guillermo del Toro

Best Discovery
(tie) The Emigrants/The New Land, The In-Laws & Akira Kurosawa's Dreams

Most Unnecessary Release
Inside Llewyn Davis

Most Flawed Release
Cat People (Would it kill to license Curse of the Cat People to go with this?)

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Re: 2016 Criterion Forum Awards

#24 Post by Costa » Tue Dec 13, 2016 5:38 pm

Drucker wrote:The latter. You may not love the film but enjoy the extras.
thanks.

well, i don't know if my post will qualify but i have to say this:

out of all those releases I've seen 16 films, and out of these i've watched 4 Criterion transfers.
So, my top 5 will be based mainly on reviews of these 16 blurays.



BEST RELEASE:

1. One-Eyed Jacks
2. McCabe and Mrs Miller
3. Only Angels Have Wings
4. Bitter Rice
5. The New World (this would be first but it loses points due to the not so good quality of 2 out of 3 cuts)

BEST COVER
ATouch of Zen

WORST COVER
Clouds of Sils Maria

BEST DISCOVERY
Bitter Rice

MOST UNNECESSARY RELEASE
Dr. Strangelove

MOST FLAWED RELEASE
Fantastic Planet
(the reason of my bluray.com demise! :lol: Revised to death by Ritrovata to their usual color palette)


i don't see this category in the first post but since other members voted i found it a great idea.
my votes are based on anticipation of release in combination (or not) in most cases with the reviews:


BEST NON-CRITERION RELEASES
1. Black Christmas (1974) (Shout)( ONLY IF the mono audio is fixed! if it's not, i delete this, all move up a place and so I've provided a 6th one that becomes 5th)
2. Dekalog (Arrow)
3. Magnum P.I. (Fabulous)
4. The Thing (Shout)
5. Iphigenia (Olive) (marks the first ever release of a pre-1980 Greek film on bluray worldwide. CONGRATULATIONS Olive!!! edit: as member sedz posted later "Nikos Papatakis' 1967 Oi Voskoi (Thanos & Despina) was released by Gaumont on BluRay last year.")
(6. Anastasia (TT))
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Re: 2016 Criterion Forum Awards

#25 Post by swo17 » Tue Dec 13, 2016 5:42 pm

AfterTheRain wrote:Best Cover
(tie) Roma, Akira Kurosawa's Dreams, & La chienne

Best Discovery
(tie) The Emigrants/The New Land, The In-Laws & Akira Kurosawa's Dreams
domino won't count these votes unless you limit them to one title.

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