Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

The scuttlebutt on Criterion, Eclipse, and Janus Films. Lists and polls are STRONGLY discouraged.
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Minkin
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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#3451 Post by Minkin » Mon Dec 16, 2019 6:27 pm

Settle on in, cause the Speculation Rodeo is showing up early this time! (March 2020 edition)

Bamboozled - 2019 New Years clue (bamboo sled beats Kane sled this time)

The Prince of Tides - May 2019 newsletter clue + also a laserdisc title

Show Boat - Speculated as a potential WB grab, former laserdisc title + I noticed the Criterion commentary was included with the TCM broadcast awhile ago

Leave Her to Heaven - A complete surprise!

The Cranes are Flying - Janus tour of the new restoration (at least it was touring briefly)

Salesman - Janus tour of the new restoration (at least it was touring briefly)
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-232 potential upgrades remain

-Citizen Kane might have lost the New Years clue race, but its still forthcoming!

-This finishes the 2019 New Years clues. Bringing Up Baby / Children of Men / the clock clue have had their year+ to be announced. Perhaps they might still be coming, but I don't think the 2019 New Years clue foretold their arrival.
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And this month's All-Around Cowpoke winner is.....

soundchaser!

Deprong Mori had the same line-up, but Domino had it first. Due to outrage at this year's decision and a declined award, Domino Harvey is no longer the Cowpoke this month. Instead the award goes to Soundchaser - who managed to get 3 correct guesses as well. You can pick up your golden lariat at the concession stand.

Until next month, when the world is below where I stand.
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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#3452 Post by FrauBlucher » Mon Dec 16, 2019 6:29 pm

Don’t give Domino a lariat, he’ll be hogtying some folks here

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#3453 Post by soundchaser » Mon Dec 16, 2019 6:54 pm

This is an outrage!

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#3454 Post by DarkImbecile » Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:03 pm

soundchaser wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2019 6:54 pm
This is an outrage!
Coming from a neutral arbiter who doesn't participate in the venerable Speculation Rodeo: since domino is the one who unlocks the thread nearly every month (and since it's impossible for soundchaser or Deprong Mori to do so), this seems like an unfair competitive advantage. To make up for it, I think domino should have to write 1000 words on Prince of Tides.

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#3455 Post by domino harvey » Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:06 pm

Though I am glad to finally be able to stop guessing some of these titles and appreciate the title and symbol in memory of my fellow statesman Will Rogers, I am always going to decline any award I win on the board anyways, so soundchaser can have it, though he’ll forever know that he’s just the Jack Lemmon to my Ving Rhames

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#3456 Post by soundchaser » Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:08 pm

domino harvey wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:06 pm
Though I am glad to finally be able to stop guessing some of these titles and appreciate the title and symbol in memory of my fellow statesman Will Rogers, I am always going to decline any award I win on the board anyways, so soundchaser can have it, though he’ll forever know that he’s just the Jack Lemmon to my Ving Rhames
Being nominated for an Oscar eight times wouldn't be so bad.

(In all seriousness, I'm just happy I can finally stop guessing Salesman.)

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#3457 Post by Minkin » Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:36 pm

Well then folks, due to outrage at the judge's decision + a declined aware, the new All-Around Cowpoke is fitfully
Soundchaser!
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Technically, one could just post everything on the forthcoming list and get the month's correct answers in there somewhere.
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Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#3458 Post by movielocke » Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:38 pm

Minkin wrote: -232 potential upgrades remain

-Citizen Kane might have lost the New Years clue race, but its still forthcoming!
-231.5 they upgraded half of one of the Robeson spines via a special feature on the show boat release

-gettin my rodeo prediction in early that the entire new year’s clue 2020 will be contained within a Kane esque slow globe
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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#3459 Post by Finch » Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:39 pm

Fantastic month with 4k Salesman, Bamboozled and Show Boat!

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#3460 Post by DeprongMori » Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:40 pm

I’ll take my spot in the rodeo ring next time.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#3461 Post by FrauBlucher » Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:57 pm

Anyone find the brilliant irony in Criterion releasing Bamboozled and Showboat in the same month

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#3462 Post by DeprongMori » Mon Dec 16, 2019 8:17 pm

FrauBlucher wrote:
Mon Dec 16, 2019 7:57 pm
Anyone find the brilliant irony in Criterion releasing Bamboozled and Showboat in the same month
Given the New Year’s clues, I was expecting them to release Bamboozled and Swing Time in the same month.

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#3463 Post by Billy Beta » Wed Dec 18, 2019 7:15 am

I know someone that worked on In Fabric, and they confirmed last night that it's coming to the collection. It also explains Peter Strickland in the closet and they're post about it playing in NY on Instagram.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#3464 Post by yoloswegmaster » Wed Dec 18, 2019 9:08 am

Isn't 'In Fabric' being distributed by A24? Does this mean that there is a deal between Criterion and A24?

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#3465 Post by black&huge » Fri Dec 20, 2019 2:46 am

Is it too early to speculate on the possible 4k Fellini restorations? I'm guessing Amarcord will be newly restored, La Dolce Vita will stick with the resto that is used on the standalone criterion and 8 1/2 is a sure bet.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#3466 Post by The Fanciful Norwegian » Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:56 am

Amarcord got a 4K restoration in 2015 so that should be a no-brainer. The existing Satyricon release is already from a 4K master so they'll just reuse that. If Criterion strikes a deal with Canal, there are 4K versions of The White Sheik and Nights of Cabiria ready for the taking. The BFI claims the January screenings of Casanova at the National Film Theatre are 4K, which is a surprise if true—this was restored a few years back, but I can't find any confirmation whether it was done in 2K or 4K, and if it were in 4K you'd think that would've been mentioned before.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#3467 Post by Moshrom » Fri Dec 20, 2019 12:53 pm

There's also an existing restoration of 8 1/2 from the OCN that was only ever released by Mustang Entertainment in Italy. It was done in 2K, but it's still easily the best the film has ever looked -- much better than the Criterion and Gaumont blu-rays.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#3468 Post by senseabove » Fri Dec 20, 2019 1:01 pm

This might have some info both about restorations and which ones Criterion has already gotten the rights to: https://bampfa.org/program/federico-fellini-100

They only typically add "Digital Restoration" to the listing if that's something worth noting as a recent restoration. It's not there just for all DCPs.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#3469 Post by FrauBlucher » Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:27 pm

domino harvey wrote:
Sat Dec 14, 2019 4:15 pm
This is how Hollywood worked ~80 years ago: release the remake, bury the original (keep in mind the 1932 Jekyll & Hyde was once thought lost because MGM destroyed every copy when they released the 1940s version). Absolutely horrifying prospect, especially given the vastness and richness of the Fox studio era catalog
I've been thinking more about this. While I agree to a certain extent, the studio heads thought the films they made were disposable due to no way to re-show them, along with the lack of foresight of sustainability for the old nitrate film. So making remakes was the obvious way to go.

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#3470 Post by patreig » Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:16 am

I must be missing something. There is a thread about the new year's clue (already locked just a few hours later) but I have been unable to find the drawing. Quite frustrating!

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Re: Criterion Discussion and Random Speculation Volume 7

#3471 Post by CSM126 » Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:17 am

patreig wrote:
Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:16 am
I must be missing something. There is a thread about the new year's clue (already locked just a few hours later) but I have been unable to find the drawing. Quite frustrating!
It’s in that very thread.

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#3472 Post by Luke M » Thu Jan 02, 2020 3:46 pm

Blu-ray.com is reporting that Mean Streets has gone out-of-print. I suspect that means a Criterion is coming soon?

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#3473 Post by FrauBlucher » Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:03 pm

It will be interesting to see if Criterion pairs it with his early docs.

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#3474 Post by yoloswegmaster » Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:24 pm

Didn't Mean Streets go OOP in 2017? I remember it being listed as one of the 2nd round Warner titles that went OOP.

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#3475 Post by Close The Door, Raymond » Sun Jan 12, 2020 12:53 am

January 20 is Fellini's 100th birthday. Will Criterion make their Fellini box set announcement on that day? It's a Monday and a holiday (MLK).

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