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#26 Post by Drucker » Thu Jul 17, 2014 6:58 pm

FrauBlucher wrote:How about A Duel in the Sun? It's been restored by the Film Foundation but has not been released for the home market.
Here here! Still haven't seen it but have not rushed to based on what I've read about the DVD release.

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#27 Post by scotty2 » Thu Jul 17, 2014 8:39 pm

I didn't see Man of the West in the Kino haul from MGM. Possibility? Seems like an obvious one to go for and a chance to get Gary Cooper in the collection.

edit: Design for Living!

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#28 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Fri Jul 18, 2014 12:07 am

chatterjees wrote:The other title I was dying to get from them was A Fistful of Dynamite. It could have made sense.
I still kind of am, but would see how maybe it likely more goes to Twilight Time since MGM already released a special edition of it, but they're twiddling their thumbs at releasing it on Blu themselves. Always thought if Once Upon a Time in the West were with UA it definitely would have gotten at least a laserdisc back in the day.

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#29 Post by Erik Morton » Fri Jul 18, 2014 1:57 am

What a lovely thread! :D

One of my biggest hopes is for Budd Boetticher's "Ranown Cycle" to enter the collection. Fantastic Westerns!!

I'm also hoping for some William A. Wellman to show up at some point (The Ox-Bow Incident, of course, but also Yellow Sky, which is an underrated gem). More Anthony Mann, too! Especially Bend of the River, which is one of my favorite Westerns (I actually prefer it to Red River).

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#30 Post by domino harvey » Fri Jul 18, 2014 2:02 am

Yellow Sky was the first thing I thought of when this thread got split off, it would be an excellent addition to the line but I fear it's not well known enough. But it like the Gunfighter is Fox and they're not as chummy with Criterion as they used to be

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#31 Post by tenia » Fri Jul 18, 2014 2:35 am

Man of the West will be getting a BD release in october-november from Carlotta, so I guess a HD master now exists which MGM licences to thrid-parties.

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#32 Post by mep » Fri Jul 18, 2014 3:50 pm

Count me in on almost every new criterion western release that will ever be!

Any chance for ´Last Train from Gun Hill´ on BD from CC ? I saw it for the first time a couple of months ago on german television; and it was great, but sadly the picture quality was just quite poor...

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#33 Post by What A Disgrace » Sun Jul 20, 2014 12:41 am

I'd hope to see some of the MGM titles; Man of the West and Day of the Outlaw specifically, hit the collection, but at this rate it seems that either Kino or Twilight Time will release them.

One title I'd think Criterion could try and procure is Ulmer's The Naked Dawn. Its been among my most-wanted titles since its mention in the liner notes of Jules and Jim.

I'd also kill for a Blu-ray of Son of Paleface!

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#34 Post by telamonides » Sun Jul 20, 2014 10:47 am

One Eyed Jacks really deserves a decent transfer.

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#35 Post by jfish226 » Sun Jul 20, 2014 7:20 pm

telamonides wrote:One Eyed Jacks really deserves a decent transfer.
I second this!

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#36 Post by beamish13 » Sun Jul 20, 2014 8:01 pm

jfish226 wrote:
telamonides wrote:One Eyed Jacks really deserves a decent transfer.
I second this!
Same here. It would make a great bundle with the Charles Neider novel it's based on.

I just saw a great-looking, original release IB technicolor print of it for a Brando retrospective at the New Beverly in L.A.
several months ago. It's desperately in need of a reappraisal and a restoration, but its public domain status makes that
kind of an iffy proposition for Paramount. Maybe the Library of Congress, UCLA Film & Television Archive or the Film Foundation can
get involved.

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#37 Post by Erik Morton » Tue Jul 22, 2014 2:51 pm

Man of the West has just been announced by Kino. Rats.

Well, here's to hoping for the possibility of a Masters of Cinema or Arrow Academy release . . . ?

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#38 Post by captveg » Wed Jul 23, 2014 5:48 pm

More votes for The Ox-Bow Incident (one of my favorite films), Bend of the River, and The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance.

EDIT: Not as Western-y as others, but Wellman's Track of the Cat is another I'd be interested in Criterion releasing as well. The particulars of the color scheme would benefit greatly in HD.

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#39 Post by Ashirg » Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:10 pm

Speaking of The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance - I wonder if lack of release in region 1 despite multiple international releases means that Criterion is working on it. Although Warner is distributing it on DVD...

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#40 Post by captveg » Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:26 pm

Frankly, the Batjac/Paramount titles (which also includes Track of the Cat now that I think about it) always confuse me re: who needs to sign off on releases.

EDIT: And now I'm remembering that Man Who Shot Liberty Valance isn't a Batjac title, but rather straight up Paramount (see what I mean about getting confused on these ones...). So, maybe like Hatari! and El Dorado this will eventually be Warner Blu-ray bound.
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#41 Post by Ashirg » Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:30 pm

The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance is straight-up Paramount, not Batjac.

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#42 Post by captveg » Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:32 pm

Yep, just remembered that as you were posting. If WB re-issued the DVD then it's gotta be with them, and I bet they'll be looking to release it relatively soon.

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#43 Post by swo17 » Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:36 pm

Don't the international Blu-ray releases of Liberty Valance all look terrible?

Also, someone's asking me if this film is in B&W or color. Can anyone help me out?

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#44 Post by knives » Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:49 pm

Black and white.

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#45 Post by swo17 » Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:51 pm

Oh crap.

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#46 Post by domino harvey » Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:52 pm

Oh Eric Stoltz, you messed up!

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#47 Post by Ashirg » Wed Jul 23, 2014 7:17 pm

Doesn't look terrible, but they are barebones.

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#48 Post by EddieLarkin » Wed Jul 23, 2014 7:20 pm

Many have disagreed, but it looks sharpened as all hell to me. I'm waiting until the U.S. gets a disc before buying.

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#49 Post by swo17 » Wed Jul 23, 2014 7:21 pm

Also, I thought a lot of the problem was how stuttery it looked in motion.

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#50 Post by AMalickLensFlare » Wed Jul 23, 2014 10:12 pm

Surprised to hear people have had problems with the Liberty Valance Blu. Having recently purchased it a couple months ago, it's still fresh in my head as one of the better looking b&w BDs I've seen. I went into it with having not read any reviews for it and was blown away by how nice it looked.

I'm not big on supplements/special features, so it'd have to take a mind-blowingly amazing transfer job on Criterion's part for me to double dip.

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