Criterion and Dual Format

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tenia
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Re: Criterion and Dual Format

#601 Post by tenia » Wed Jul 26, 2017 3:59 pm

Aren't the book reduction the answer to increased production costs for booklets and increased transportation costs ?

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Re: Criterion and Dual Format

#602 Post by felipe » Wed Jul 26, 2017 6:10 pm

Why don't they print just the blu-ray sized booklets and put those on dvds as well? Isn't that what MOC used to do?

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Re: Criterion and Dual Format

#603 Post by Morbii » Thu Jul 27, 2017 2:27 am

tenia wrote:Aren't the book reduction the answer to increased production costs for booklets and increased transportation costs ?
I thought many here blamed the dual format fiasco, at least in part. I have no special knowledge, so my statement could be wrong.

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#604 Post by Yaanu » Fri Dec 15, 2017 8:39 pm

I just looked at Criterion.com, and L'eclisse is labelled as "Buy on Amazon.com". Dunno if that means anything, but it doesn't help that the third-party sellers boosted the price up to $400.

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Re: Criterion and Dual Format

#605 Post by willoneill » Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:22 pm

Yaanu wrote:I just looked at Criterion.com, and L'eclisse is labelled as "Buy on Amazon.com". Dunno if that means anything, but it doesn't help that the third-party sellers boosted the price up to $400.
It probably just means they're out of the dual format edition, and will be rereleasing it in separate blu and dvd editions.

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Re: Criterion and Dual Format

#606 Post by Omensetter » Sat Dec 16, 2017 10:44 am

That's my favorite film and I'm heartened that enough people would purchase it such that it would go OOP, but I suppose it's equally likely that their initial run was low or that people just like staring at Alain Delon or Monica Vitti seeking spiritual succor (they sold out of L'Avventura posters in their shop as well).

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#607 Post by FrauBlucher » Thu Mar 01, 2018 7:48 am


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Re: Criterion and Dual Format

#608 Post by criterionoop » Thu Mar 01, 2018 5:40 pm

SCANNERS is also going to be on a Blu-ray only edition on March 28. The Criterion website has a preorder up.

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Re: Criterion and Dual Format

#609 Post by Ribs » Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:33 am

Rififi and Ace in the Hole are getting BD-only editions in October

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Re: Criterion and Dual Format

#610 Post by FrauBlucher » Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:16 pm

Is there anyway of knowing if the packaging for Ace in the Hole is changing before the release?

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Re: Criterion and Dual Format

#611 Post by swo17 » Fri Nov 02, 2018 3:26 pm

FrauBlucher wrote:
Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:16 pm
Is there anyway of knowing if the packaging for Ace in the Hole is changing before the release?
I just saw it in store and the BD-only edition comes in a plastic case

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#612 Post by FrauBlucher » Fri Nov 02, 2018 4:05 pm

Thanks. I’m on a mission to replace my dual format digipaks to the blu only if they are getting re-released in the plastic cases.

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Re: Criterion and Dual Format

#613 Post by jbeall » Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:20 pm

There are some dual-formats being released in slightly thicker plastic cases. I was at B&N earlier today and noticed that Judex and two other titles I can't remember are still dual-format, but no longer digipakked.

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Re: Criterion and Dual Format

#614 Post by CSM126 » Fri Nov 02, 2018 8:42 pm

I believe Judex was a plastic case from the get-go.

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Re: Criterion and Dual Format

#615 Post by FrauBlucher » Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:14 pm

All that Jazz will no longer be dual format as of Jan 29th. Bluray.com

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Re: Criterion and Dual Format

#616 Post by captveg » Tue Nov 06, 2018 5:37 pm

FrauBlucher wrote:
Fri Nov 02, 2018 10:14 pm
All that Jazz will no longer be dual format as of Jan 29th. Bluray.com
It's worth noting that the Dual Format version can no longer be ordered at criterion.com, which suggests all stock has been sent to retailers.

Same goes for All That Heaven Allows, which suggests a split re-issue coming soon.

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Re: Criterion and Dual Format

#617 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:57 pm

I just read that Vinegar Syndrome is now only putting out Blu-rays, discontinuing DVD production. Could there ever be a chance that Criterion would make this move as well at some point?

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Re: Criterion and Dual Format

#618 Post by Boosmahn » Sun Nov 11, 2018 6:27 pm

flyonthewall2983 wrote:
Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:57 pm
I just read that Vinegar Syndrome is now only putting out Blu-rays, discontinuing DVD production.
I thought that they were dropping DVD-only releases and switching over to the dual-format model?

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Re: Criterion and Dual Format

#619 Post by Yaanu » Sun Nov 11, 2018 6:32 pm

Boosmahn wrote:
Sun Nov 11, 2018 6:27 pm
flyonthewall2983 wrote:
Sun Nov 11, 2018 5:57 pm
I just read that Vinegar Syndrome is now only putting out Blu-rays, discontinuing DVD production.
I thought that they were dropping DVD-only releases and switching over to the dual-format model?
Indeed:
VS Newsletter wrote:As we close out our 6th year, we've seen a lot of changes in what you like, dislike, buy and don't buy. As such, to adapt to those changes, we're trying something new in 2019: ALL BLU-RAY (combo packs). Yes, starting in January, every single title we release will be issued on Blu, in combo pack form with a matching DVD. So, in case there's any lingering confusion, we will no longer be doing any DVD-only releases of anything...
Personally I still think it's a shame Criterion didn't stick with Dual Format for longer than it did.

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Re: Criterion and Dual Format

#620 Post by FrauBlucher » Sun Jan 27, 2019 6:00 am

All that Heaven Allows dual format is no longer available on the Criterion site. BD only will available Fed 12th.

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Re: Criterion and Dual Format

#621 Post by Minkin » Sun Jan 27, 2019 8:10 am

It seems like one of these goes every 6 months. Probably when the initial print run finally sells out. There's probably a few that are still Dual Format due to licensing reasons, so probably won't be split / might end up Blu-Ray only (like Zatoichi). That said, I still wonder when Criterion will finally just go Blu only for everything.

Just a reminder to everyone that I still keep track of the status of Dual Formats at the FAQ Thread (and yes, I desperately need to update the digipack + booklet lists)

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Re: Criterion and Dual Format

#622 Post by 371229 » Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:39 pm

I hated the dual releases and glad Criterion stopped. I din't need and extra DVD... just to throw in the garbage. I tried giving them away and no one wanted them.

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Re: Criterion and Dual Format

#623 Post by aox » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:02 pm

371229 wrote:
Wed Jan 30, 2019 8:39 pm
I hated the dual releases and glad Criterion stopped. I din't need and extra DVD... just to throw in the garbage. I tried giving them away and no one wanted them.
This. So happy it's over.

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Re: Criterion and Dual Format

#624 Post by domino harvey » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:07 pm

You are both aware the case holds both and there's no reason to discard the extra disc? Okay, great

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Re: Criterion and Dual Format

#625 Post by jedgeco » Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:28 pm

The extra 5g of weight adds up

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