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52-53 / BD 36 Ugetsu monogatari & Oyū-sama
Ugetsu monogatari
Mizoguchi’s Ugetsu monogatari [Tales of the Rain and Moon ] is a highly acclaimed masterwork of Japanese cinema. Based on a pair of 18th century ghost stories by Ueda Akinari, the film’s release continued Mizoguchi’s introduction to the West, where it was nominated for an Oscar and won the the Venice Film Festival’s Silver Lion award (for Best Direction).
In 16th century Japan, amidst the pandemonium of civil war, potter Genjurô (Mori Masayuki) and samurai-aspirant Tobei (Ozawa Sakae) set out with their wives in search of wealth and military glory respectively. Two parallel tales ensue when the men are lured from their wives: Genjurô by the ghostly charm of Lady Wakasa (Kyô Machiko); Tôbei by the dream of military renown.
Famed for its meticulously orchestrated long takes and subtle blending of realistic period reconstruction with lyrical supernaturalism, Ugetsu monogatari is an intensely poetic tragedy that consistently features on polls of the best films ever made.
Oyū-sama
Another literary adaptation – this time of a story by one of Japan’s modern literary masters, novelist Tanizaki Jun’ichiro – Mizoguchi’s Oyū-sama [Miss Oyū] is a poignant and contemplative tale of two sisters and their ill-fated relationship with the same man. At the core is Mizoguchi-regular Tanaka Kinuyo (who also stars in Ugetsu Monogatari) as the eponymous Oyu, the older sister who allows marital customs to dictate the lives of those caught up in this complex love triangle.
Continuing the director’s fascination with the relationship between affairs of the heart and the social mores that shape and sometimes destroy them, Mizoguchi transforms his subject matter into the realm of the transcendental through the use of long, mobile shots – an approach that reaches its apotheosis in a take of almost six minutes — infused with humanity and emotion.
The Masters of Cinema Series is proud to present Mizoguchi’s films for the first time on home video in the UK.
Special Features
• Newly exclusively restored high-definition transfer of Ugetsu monogatari in 1080p
• Mizoguchi’s Oyū-sama (also in 1080p on the Blu-ray)
• Optional English subtitles on both features
• Tony Rayns video discussions of Ugetsu monogatari [9:00] and Oyū-sama [13:00]
• Original Japanese and Spanish theatrical trailers for Ugetsu monogatari
• Ugetsu monogatari restoration demonstration
• Illustrated booklet featuring rare archival imagery and award-winning translations of the 18th century Ueda Akinari stories adapted in Ugetsu monogatari
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So I assume you don't have the Criterion Sansho?What A Disgrace wrote:As my Sansho is happily on the way, I was wondering in all friendliness...
Besides Oyu-sama and the likely Tony Rayns interview, how do you plan to convince us happy Criterion owners to buy Ugetsu again?
I have both, and I think a lot of people will be hoping the MoC Ugetsu doesn't have the same errors the Criterion has, I would think Sansho is just as hard to double up on.
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I think the main issue for many people will be if MoC have used the same neg as CC did, so will the mysterious cut in the initial panning shot be present? Nick?What A Disgrace wrote:As my Sansho is happily on the way, I was wondering in all friendliness...
Besides Oyu-sama and the likely Tony Rayns interview, how do you plan to convince us happy Criterion owners to buy Ugetsu again?
Unless the image on the MoC's is considerably better than the CC's, I just can't see me parting with either Sansho or Ugetsu. Even if I'm never going to watch them again, there is still the extras and the packaging on them both is so beautiful...
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The fact that I own, have watched twice, and watched the extras of Ugetsu in full is one reason why purchasing Ugetsu again; especially considering the higher retail price of these boxes, seems pretty painful. And my wallet isn't doing good lately, either. The inclusion of Oyu-sama is probably what will get me to buy this set.
In Sansho's case, I rented the Criterion instead, thinking that I could always see the film again and storm the Criterion's extras, and later own it on the heavy MoC box (back when the eight films were being split across two boxes, and not four). After all, I can't rent the MoC's extras...nor could I own the other films.
In Sansho's case, I rented the Criterion instead, thinking that I could always see the film again and storm the Criterion's extras, and later own it on the heavy MoC box (back when the eight films were being split across two boxes, and not four). After all, I can't rent the MoC's extras...nor could I own the other films.
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Oyu-sama is an excellent film by itself. I'd happily pay for a MOC release of just this. Just think of Ugetsu as one of those extras which you never bother watching again - like the Shindo documentary on the Criterion, I'm sure those few folk who purchased the $40+ Japanese release of this weren't too annoyed with it being included (sans commentary).
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Is there a release date for Ugetsu/Oyu-Sama? If not, any reliable guestimates? Been needing to pick up the CC but I'll gladly wait for the MOC if it's in the next couple of months. I like MOC's packaging standards better (I know CC's Ugetsu is a cardboard slipcase, but what's up with the wrinkly vinyl on the outside of the standard CC cases?). Also PAL looks better on my system and I'd get the added bonus of Oyu-Sama.
Plus, I think I might have ADD so the 4% speedup appeals to me.
Plus, I think I might have ADD so the 4% speedup appeals to me.
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- Sanjuro
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Hmm. I guess you're sticking with the whole 'One major piece of art plus an extra movie' packaging which I guess makes sense from a business point of view.
It just seems a pity somehow. I love both Oyu-sama and Gion Bayashi and think they're both terrific parts of Mizoguchi's late output and as with most films I like, I'd like to introduce my friends to them. And sure, the film should stand alone in it's own merits, but so much of MOC and Criterions packages are about contextualization - why this movie is an important part of history which demands your attention. I can give Nosferatu to a skeptical friend, point out the huge book and they'll understand that it's not just some vampire film but something which a lot of people consider more important which they should try watching.
With the packaging and book focussed on one movie (and a commentary which seems to reduce Gion Bayashi to a 'piece to pay the bills and show off an upcoming teen idol') it becomes more difficult to convince people to look at them as 'great' films.
Sure, I know they're not as 'good' or as famous as Sansho or Ugetsu and they probably wouldn't sell well by themselves, and this is quite a clever way of sneaking two great movies that people might otherwise dismiss into many households. But still...well maybe I'm just too hung up on packaging and like the romantic notion that Mizoguchi spent his last few years at Daiei crafting a series of masterpieces for people to remember him by.
It just seems a pity somehow. I love both Oyu-sama and Gion Bayashi and think they're both terrific parts of Mizoguchi's late output and as with most films I like, I'd like to introduce my friends to them. And sure, the film should stand alone in it's own merits, but so much of MOC and Criterions packages are about contextualization - why this movie is an important part of history which demands your attention. I can give Nosferatu to a skeptical friend, point out the huge book and they'll understand that it's not just some vampire film but something which a lot of people consider more important which they should try watching.
With the packaging and book focussed on one movie (and a commentary which seems to reduce Gion Bayashi to a 'piece to pay the bills and show off an upcoming teen idol') it becomes more difficult to convince people to look at them as 'great' films.
Sure, I know they're not as 'good' or as famous as Sansho or Ugetsu and they probably wouldn't sell well by themselves, and this is quite a clever way of sneaking two great movies that people might otherwise dismiss into many households. But still...well maybe I'm just too hung up on packaging and like the romantic notion that Mizoguchi spent his last few years at Daiei crafting a series of masterpieces for people to remember him by.
- jt
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Or it might just be that one beautiful screenshot makes a better, less-cluttered cover than two frames squeezed onto one cover..?
Only people that have already seen Sansho and Ugetsu will recognise which film the frame on the cover comes from, and those people are likely to be just as interested in both films. In fact, I'll be watching Oyu-Sama and Gion Bayashi before the more famous films they're packaged with as I've got both the CC Mizo's.
Only people that have already seen Sansho and Ugetsu will recognise which film the frame on the cover comes from, and those people are likely to be just as interested in both films. In fact, I'll be watching Oyu-Sama and Gion Bayashi before the more famous films they're packaged with as I've got both the CC Mizo's.
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Actually, what Nick is doing is directly analogous to what I used to do back in the heyday of the London arthouse repertory cinema - which was to book double and triple bills, relying on a headline-grabber to pull in the punters and pay the rent while hoping that people would stay for the others and discover something they might not have willingly paid to see on its own.Sanjuro wrote:With the packaging and book focussed on one movie (and a commentary which seems to reduce Gion Bayashi to a 'piece to pay the bills and show off an upcoming teen idol') it becomes more difficult to convince people to look at them as 'great' films.
Economically, it made lots of sense - we occasionally got complaints that the rarest films would be shown in the late afternoon, making them relatively inaccessible on working days, but brute economics dictated that it was either that or not show them at all.
And sometimes we'd get real surprises - I remember a huge turnout for an ultra-rare outing for a 5pm screening Ozu's Record of a Tenement Gentleman, which had obviously been spotted by London's Japanese community, as I think the audience was 90% Japanese.
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As I said in my post, I'm well aware that it's the most sensible solution to get the relatively unknown Mizoguchi films into peoples homes.
Of course, after getting Gion Bayashi home you're presented with an interview which explains why it's not such a great movie and a book almost completely dedicated to Sansho Dayu. As a fan of the movie you can surely see how this might be just a little disappointing?
I can understand this of course, Sansho Dayu is one of the greatest movies ever made, Gion Bayashi can't really compete but it would be nice to think Oyu-sama will get a better overall deal in this set. Presenting relatively unknown films and giving them deluxe treatment is something MOC do so well.
Cover is really nice by the way, quite right to use one amazing image than split up the box. Although it kind of reminds me of how beautiful the opening shots of Oyu-sama are. Ha ha, right I'll stop complaining there, forget my post, go buy the movies (and if you own the Criterion Ugetsu, pretend it's a freebie and you're buying Oyu-sama).
Of course, after getting Gion Bayashi home you're presented with an interview which explains why it's not such a great movie and a book almost completely dedicated to Sansho Dayu. As a fan of the movie you can surely see how this might be just a little disappointing?
I can understand this of course, Sansho Dayu is one of the greatest movies ever made, Gion Bayashi can't really compete but it would be nice to think Oyu-sama will get a better overall deal in this set. Presenting relatively unknown films and giving them deluxe treatment is something MOC do so well.
Cover is really nice by the way, quite right to use one amazing image than split up the box. Although it kind of reminds me of how beautiful the opening shots of Oyu-sama are. Ha ha, right I'll stop complaining there, forget my post, go buy the movies (and if you own the Criterion Ugetsu, pretend it's a freebie and you're buying Oyu-sama).
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Of course, there are some (and I know I am not unique) who much prefer Gion bayashi (which I consider near perfect) to Sansho (which I consider great, but deeply flawed).Sanjuro wrote:I can understand this of course, Sansho Dayu is one of the greatest movies ever made, Gion Bayashi can't really compete but it would be nice to think Oyu-sama will get a better overall deal in this set. .
Since Gion bayashi looks so nice in this set, I am very grateful to MOC. But I think something must have gone awry with the supporting materials for this part of the set. While the Sansho materials are excellent, those for Gion bayashi were surprisingly slim. And the dismissive comments by Tony Rayns (or was it some impostor?) were frankly ridiculous.
As to Oyu-sama, it is a lovely looking film -- but dramatically pretty infirm (albeit considerably better than Lady from Musashino).
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According to the details given in play.com the only extras will be the Tony Rains interviews (again). That's a pity. They could have included something more, especially in the Ugetsu disc. Of course I am not talking about the Kaneto Shindo doc that is included in the Criterion release because that requires a whole disc for itself.