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- Gregory
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That's good to know, but I'll just say for the record or in case I was unclear that I wasn't criticizing MoC's track record. What I have in mind is what some of the major studios have done as well as Criterion's over-reliance on Bruce Eder and a few others in the LD era and people like Cowie in the DVD era. And, for me, the quality of the criticism contained in the essay or criticism (which I touched on) is probably more important than the overkill issue.
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- not perpee
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107 minutes (PAL)dmkb wrote:What is the running time on this new print?
We're not using the new German score that was on the Spanish edition. The MoC edition will have two scores, the Timothy Brock orchestral score and a gorgeous new solo harp score by Stan Ambrose, recorded last week.tadao wrote:Any word yet as to what music score will be on the disc?
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What Stan Ambrose? This one here?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/england/radiomerse ... rose.shtml
And who composed the piece?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/england/radiomerse ... rose.shtml
And who composed the piece?
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- not perpee
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Yes. That's Stan. Here's a photo of Stan recording the score last week:Annie Mall wrote:What Stan Ambrose? This one here?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/england/radiomerse ... rose.shtml
And who composed the piece?
Stan composed/improvised the score.
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I got tired of waiting, and in the meantime decided to get out the existing Eureka disc on rental. Great film, but having seen several German classics from Eureka in the past few months I've had more than I can take of the mellifluous tones of Russell Cawthorne. How did his voice come to be used on so many German releases when his pronunciation is so bad? For God's sake, he can't even pronounce Murnau. (And on the Testament of Dr Mabuse disc, he keeps referring to 'Dr Mabooz').
Don't know if it's the same bloke, but according to IMDb, a Russell Cawthorne had bit-parts in a couple of Bruce Lee pics. From there, I suppose, it is but a short step to become the modern voice of German expressionism.
Anyway, roll on June.
Don't know if it's the same bloke, but according to IMDb, a Russell Cawthorne had bit-parts in a couple of Bruce Lee pics. From there, I suppose, it is but a short step to become the modern voice of German expressionism.
Anyway, roll on June.
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Hmm, good point. I suppose syncing Hans Erdmann's original score - if it is indeed the original, written in 1921 - may be tricky, with missing scenes and such, not to mention expensive. Maybe rescoring it or getting ANOTHER new one, a la Faust?
As long as that heavy metal abomination is nowhere to be found, I'm happy...
As long as that heavy metal abomination is nowhere to be found, I'm happy...
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- HerrSchreck
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Imagewise, the Kino NOS is as good as it gets, though the cropping issue is mysterious.. the edition is the first to show monsieur Schreck popping out his coffin on the ship without braining him (his whole head is shown at last), and includes image border info not present in the Image/other discs.. yet in some areas there is cropping nonexistent in the other discs. But the image quality, detail, flawless tinting, full edition of the "Murnau-foundation authorized" edition will probably never be surpassed. The only improvement we can hope for is an equally skillful transfer, converted to NTSC correctly (the effect is virtually indetectable on this disc I must say), whereby the negative/aperture corners are visible-- and presented WITH THE BECCE score. I don't know why these fucking people do this, compose new scores, when they have the directors instructions on hand. Why no fucking industrial synth during METROPOLIS or NIBELUNGEN? Because it would be sacrilege to shit away the Hupperz score. No less so for Murnau than Lang.TheWatcher wrote:Best case scenario: a definitive Nosferatu. Id buy it in a heartbeat!
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You said it-- the two scores are opposite ends of one horrible nightmare. Believe it or not that fucking industrial mess is the ZDF/Arte "officially sanctioned" version coming outa the FWMS!!! Kino commisioned that creeping sleep-gas from Sosin as an alternative.Michael Kerpan wrote:I agree the Kino looks wonderful -- I find it hard to imagine anyone doing a significantly better job. The two scores, however, just don't cut it.
Of course one other thing.. seeing the original era-intertitles would be groovy. MoC is usually very good about that so if they came out w their own edition matching the skill of Kino's image, with Becce's score, with translations up to par with Kino's (incidentally the Swede who did the translations for the new Stillers demands a standing ovation, they are sublime.. another reason why I must grab a copy of DER SPIELER when it comes out as I'm certain these will be the premeire translations into English of the film to date), then we are looking at a rather important release.
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- not perpee
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Final specs are now at the site. This 2 x disc set is now finished and will be released on June 26th.
http://www.eurekavideo.co.uk/moc/024.htm
http://www.eurekavideo.co.uk/moc/024.htm
- denti alligator
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=D> =D>peerpee wrote:Final specs are now at the site. This 2 x disc set is now finished and will be released on June 26th.
http://www.eurekavideo.co.uk/moc/024.htm
Congratulations! I can't wait to get my hands on this!!
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