125 / BD 50 The Passion of Joan of Arc

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Re: 125 / BD 50 The Passion of Joan of Arc

#101 Post by swo17 » Fri Jul 20, 2012 3:53 pm

Better than the original long wait until 2013.

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Re: 125 / BD 50 The Passion of Joan of Arc

#102 Post by AK » Thu Sep 06, 2012 6:52 am

The new release date, according to Amazon.co.uk, is now November 19th. I was so dumbstruck they're releasing it this year that little postponements like this hardly matter.

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Re: 125 / BD 50 The Passion of Joan of Arc

#103 Post by MichaelB » Wed Sep 12, 2012 7:10 am

It's not exactly a review, but Sight & Sound editor Nick James tweeted:
Yesterday I saw a new DVD restoration of the original Danish version of Dreyer's Passion of Joan of Arc. Astounding.
I should be seeing the MoC version myself before too long, as I'm writing a feature on the film's tortuous distribution and restoration history that should hopefully be published in time for the Blu-ray (or just after, depending on which issue it ends up in).

(Incidentally, I think Nick was watching the new HD master, not "a DVD restoration", but Twitter isn't a great medium for nuance and footnotes.)

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Re: 125 / BD 50 The Passion of Joan of Arc

#104 Post by Brianruns10 » Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:03 pm

A King's ransom in gold and rare spices to the person who can get me a single screencap of this new restoration. I can barely wait two more months for my favorite film, at last, in high definition!

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Re: 125 / BD 50 The Passion of Joan of Arc

#105 Post by peerpee » Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:47 pm

There's been one at my website for over 4 months.

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Re: 125 / BD 50 The Passion of Joan of Arc

#106 Post by Brianruns10 » Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:20 pm

peerpee wrote:There's been one at my website for over 4 months.
Found it! Marvelous. Simply marvelous. I'll be fascinated to learn more about MoC's restoration of this title, especially compared to Gaumont's pending restoration of the same. Thanks!

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Re: 125 / BD 50 The Passion of Joan of Arc

#107 Post by peerpee » Wed Sep 12, 2012 1:46 pm

Thanks. Which courier do you want to use for the king's ransom in gold and rare spices?

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Re: 125 / BD 50 The Passion of Joan of Arc

#108 Post by Brianruns10 » Wed Sep 12, 2012 2:03 pm

peerpee wrote:Thanks. Which courier do you want to use for the king's ransom in gold and rare spices?
Take a personal check?

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Re: 125 / BD 50 The Passion of Joan of Arc

#109 Post by MichaelB » Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:01 pm

The BFI has just confirmed that the BFI Southbank screenings of The Passion of Joan of Arc on September 25th and 29th will be the public premieres of the MoC restoration.

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Re: 125 / BD 50 The Passion of Joan of Arc

#110 Post by Brianruns10 » Thu Sep 20, 2012 5:41 pm

Oh man, I hope someone grabs like a two or three minute cell video of this. I'm just so eager to see some of the restoration! This is the release of the year for me, and I'm not even in the UK.

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Re: 125 / BD 50 The Passion of Joan of Arc

#111 Post by Calvin » Thu Sep 20, 2012 6:17 pm

There's a clip up on Eureka's YouTube. It's not full HD but it serves the purpose much better than a cell video ever will.

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Re: 125 / BD 50 The Passion of Joan of Arc

#112 Post by MichaelB » Thu Sep 20, 2012 6:45 pm

Calvin wrote:There's a clip up on Eureka's YouTube. It's not full HD but it serves the purpose much better than a cell video ever will.
Not least because at BFI Southbank there's a very strong chance that anyone caught using a cellphone during the film (with all that that implies in terms of emitting distracting glows) will have his phone-holding arm ripped off by enraged fellow audience members who will then beat him to death with the soggy end.

And you wouldn't want that on your conscience.

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Re: 125 / BD 50 The Passion of Joan of Arc

#113 Post by AK » Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:25 pm

Fantastic news! (Referring more to the resto being shown at Southbank rather than to the arm-ripping, though)

Eureka says of the release that "Further details to be announced nearer the release date!" - anyone have even the slightest idea of what more might be included? Is there a reason not to expect any sort of commentary track?

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Re: 125 / BD 50 The Passion of Joan of Arc

#114 Post by Brianruns10 » Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:46 am

AK wrote: Eureka says of the release that "Further details to be announced nearer the release date!" - anyone have even the slightest idea of what more might be included? Is there a reason not to expect any sort of commentary track?
A commentary would be marvelous. It's a pipe dream, but I'd die a happy man if 1) Falconetti's two OTHER films still survive (Le Clown, and La Comtesse de Somerive) and both are included in this set! The Cinemateque Francaise has both films listed in its archives with an accession number, but it is unclear if that is referring to actual film materials in their holdings, or merely referencing any number of relevant materials such as posters or production materials.

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Re: 125 / BD 50 The Passion of Joan of Arc

#115 Post by Zot! » Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:00 am

Brianruns10 wrote:
AK wrote: Eureka says of the release that "Further details to be announced nearer the release date!" - anyone have even the slightest idea of what more might be included? Is there a reason not to expect any sort of commentary track?
A commentary would be marvelous. It's a pipe dream, but I'd die a happy man if 1) Falconetti's two OTHER films still survive (Le Clown, and La Comtesse de Somerive) and both are included in this set! The Cinemateque Francaise has both films listed in its archives with an accession number, but it is unclear if that is referring to actual film materials in their holdings, or merely referencing any number of relevant materials such as posters or production materials.
I only buy blu-rays that come with a shotglass.

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Re: 125 / BD 50 The Passion of Joan of Arc

#116 Post by Calvin » Fri Sep 21, 2012 11:10 am

Hopefully there's some good information about Falconetti included in the booklet. There was a biography written by her daughter but I don't think it's ever been translated.

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Re: 125 / BD 50 The Passion of Joan of Arc

#117 Post by Zot! » Fri Sep 21, 2012 12:04 pm

Calvin wrote:There's a clip up on Eureka's YouTube. It's not full HD but it serves the purpose much better than a cell video ever will.
Does anyone know if this clip is at the 20 or 24fps speed?

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Re: 125 / BD 50 The Passion of Joan of Arc

#118 Post by Brianruns10 » Fri Sep 21, 2012 12:17 pm

Zot! wrote:
Calvin wrote:There's a clip up on Eureka's YouTube. It's not full HD but it serves the purpose much better than a cell video ever will.
Does anyone know if this clip is at the 20 or 24fps speed?
Pretty confident is 20 FPS, both because MoC considers the 20 FPS the correct speed, and because I've watched the Criterion version so many times (it's 24 FPS) to know that the movement definitely looks faster.

I personally think the 24FPS looks more natural, and the 20 FPS is too herky jerky, but it'd be wrong of me to make any final judgments based on three brief clips. I'll wait for the final release, and I'm glad MoC struck such a wonderful compromise by giving us both options.

BR

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Re: 125 / BD 50 The Passion of Joan of Arc

#119 Post by Peacock » Fri Sep 21, 2012 1:31 pm

Surely 20fps will be slower/more natural than 24fps?

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Re: 125 / BD 50 The Passion of Joan of Arc

#120 Post by Brianruns10 » Fri Sep 21, 2012 2:32 pm

Shoot my post got all backwards. It's been a long day! Meant it was the 24 FPS version because it looked faster, but the 20 FPS would be slower. You're right, my mixup there!

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Re: 125 / BD 50 The Passion of Joan of Arc

#121 Post by Gregor Samsa » Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:42 pm

Just read this interesting news on another forum:
Absolutely, three seperate releases:

DVD (2 disc)
BD (1 disc)
Steelbook Dual-format (3 discs)

The BD and Steelbook versions come in a slipcase and dependent on final pagination of the book the DVD version may too.
Does this mean the book is gonna be longer than 56 pages? Nice to see, if so.

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Re: 125 / BD 50 The Passion of Joan of Arc

#122 Post by Bürgermeister » Wed Oct 03, 2012 10:38 pm

MoC dvd cases hold a 80page book quite nicely, if they're considering putting it in a slipcase it's 80pages+.

At least i hope so, and a release like this it certainly deserves it.

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Re: 125 / BD 50 The Passion of Joan of Arc

#123 Post by tenia » Thu Oct 04, 2012 1:43 am

Bürgermeister wrote:MoC dvd cases hold a 80page book quite nicely, if they're considering putting it in a slipcase it's 80pages+.
Not sure at all about that. With 3 discs to store, you have a lot less space for the booklet (see the Mizoguchis for instance).
It's likely to be more than 56 pages, sure, but it doen't mean it's going to be much thicker than this.

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Re: 125 / BD 50 The Passion of Joan of Arc

#124 Post by Gregor Samsa » Mon Oct 15, 2012 10:13 pm

From the MoC twitter:
Morning London time: finalized package contents for our edition of THE PASSION OF JOAN OF ARC. [...] That is, not that they were finalized this past morning, but that this morning upcoming we'll announce them.

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Re: 125 / BD 50 The Passion of Joan of Arc

#125 Post by Gregor Samsa » Tue Oct 16, 2012 3:34 am

And the announcement from said twitter page. No new on-disc features in addition to what's already been announced, but can't complain cause they're going all out with the book instead:
Good morning. Besides the on-disc features already announced, here is what our release of Dreyer's THE PASSION OF JOAN OF ARC will contain. All versions of our release of THE PASSION OF JOAN OF ARC will be housed in a rigid slipcase/box. All versions of our release of THE PASSION OF JOAN OF ARC will be accompanied by a 100-page book.

The 100-page book accompanying our THE PASSION OF JOAN OF ARC release contains: (1) The essay by Jean & Dale D. Drum from their book... ...dealing with the film; (2) The 1928 essay by H.D. (the poet Hilda Doolittle) about the film. ... ... (3) A new English translation of the 1930 review of the film by Luis Buñuel. (4) A short excerpt from 1951 by André Bazin. ....(5) A new translation of the 1953 essay on the film, by Chris Marker. ... .. (6) Two short pieces about the film, and cinema in general, by Carl Theodor Dreyer, from 1929 and 1950. ... (7) A new translation of a 1929 interview about the film, and cinema, with Antonin Artaud. ... ... (8) A new essay by scholar Casper Tybjerg called "Two Passions – One Film?" unpacking the version(s) of the film btwn Oslo and Lo Duca.. ... (9) A section devoted to 15 frame comparisons between the integral/Oslo print and the Lo Duca version. ... ... (10) A selection of the best set-design blueprints, photographs of physical set-models, and onset stills, in hi-res courtesy of the DFI.... (11) A detailed technical note on our restoration, and the versions, and the frame-rates, for the film as presented. ... ... (12) And rare and archival imagery. — THAT IS ALL. We look forward to getting this out to you all. xo MoC

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