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 Post subject: The Film Detective
PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 11:16 pm 
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The Film Detective is classic film restoration and distribution company that is releasing three films on Blu-ray on November 24th.

Salt of the Earth (Herbert J. Biberman, 1954) - The Criterion Collection had released this film on their Voyager label on Laserdisc.

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Beat the Devil (John Huston, 1953)

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Hollow Triumph (Steve Sekely, 1948)

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Some background on The Film Detective from their webpage:
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The Film Detective founder Philip Hopkins has channeled his life-long passion for film collecting into the leading purveyor of classic film restoration and distribution of broadcast-quality, digitally-remastered material. Since launching services in 1999, he has distributed his film library into the home video market and through leading broadcast platforms such Turner Classics Movies, American Movie Classics, NBC, Hulu, Amazon, EPIX HD.


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 Post subject: Re: The Film Detective
PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 11:22 pm 
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Dang, if those aren't garbage PD prints, they're pretty well all exciting.


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 Post subject: Re: The Film Detective
PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 11:24 pm 
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Their Facebook page indicates they will release ten films (I'm assuming these include the three announced above) on Blu-ray soon, including D.O.A. and Night of the Living Dead.


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 Post subject: Re: The Film Detective
PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 11:30 pm 
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These are PD titles, I wouldn't get too excited until proven otherwise


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 Post subject: Re: The Film Detective
PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:38 am 
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These are also going to be BD-Rs, I heard!


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 Post subject: Re: The Film Detective
PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 12:58 am 
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Nice to have them out, but yes, probably lousy PD prints.


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 Post subject: Re: The Film Detective
PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 2:36 am 
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chatterjees wrote:
These are also going to be BD-Rs, I heard!

In a posting on the Blu-ray.com forum, The Film Chest has confirmed the releases will indeed be BD-Rs.
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We recognize our clients desire for a Blu Ray product that offers lasting durability, playability, and collectable packaging. For that reason we have partnered with Allied Vaughn to bring out our Blu Ray On-Demand Titles. Allied produces all BD-R product on professional grade equipment, and using top grade media.

While Blu Ray On-Demand titles have become more widely available over the past 18 months, on-demand discs overall have become a critical segment of the classic film industry, with many millions of discs sold worldwide. Our main focus is to build a classic movie network, and make available titles that otherwise might not be released in decent quality versions. Again, we are all fans of the genre, as well as consumers of other studios on a regular basis. We're also going to be very sensitive to the issue of noise reduction, and will avoid using it as much as possible for blu-ray. We will also pay close attention to aspect ratio to make sure we get that right as well. Thanks for all your valuable feedback, everyone.


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 Post subject: Re: The Film Detective
PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 2:41 am 
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Home Media Magazine has a story about The Film Detective's PD Blu-ray release plans.
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Among the initial remastered discs on tap from Film Detective: A Bucket of Blood (1959), Angel and the Badman (1947), Beat the Devil (1953), Carnival of Souls (1962), D.O.A. (1950), Dementia 13 (1963), Dick Tracy’s Dilemma (1947), Go for Broke (1951), Kansas City Confidential (1952), Love Affair (1939), My Favorite Brunette (1947), My Man Godfrey (1936), Night of the Living Dead (1968), Nothing Sacred (1937), Salt of the Earth (1954), Sherlock Holmes and the Secret Weapon (1942), Sherlock Homes: Dressed to Kill (1946), Smash Up: The Story of a Woman (1947), The Big Lift (1950), The Brain That Wouldn’t Die (1962), The Inspector General (1949), The Last Time I Saw Paris (1954), The Red House (1947), The Stranger (1946) and The Terror (1963).


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 Post subject: Re: The Film Detective
PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 2:54 am 
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Watch, they'll end up teaming up with Flicker Alley and devise the ultimate idiotic business maneuver (too late for them to sell Beta tapes or CED? with PDF files available, naturally).
You're better off just getting these movies on those $1 dvd sets - at least the picture quality will be about the same, and the disc will last longer!

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As though you didn't have enough of a reason to love these already...
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Had a nice talk with Bob Furmanek today regarding original aspect ratios of Salt of the Earth and Beat the Devil.


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 Post subject: Re: The Film Detective
PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 3:49 am 

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What is it with this forum and Bob Furmanek. The man is a genuine expert who knows what he's talking about.


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 Post subject: Re: The Film Detective
PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 8:29 am 
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This thread just gets worse and worse


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 Post subject: Re: The Film Detective
PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 1:13 pm 
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So apparently "The Film Detective" is the same guy behind "The Film Chest" then. "The Film Chest" already released a DNR-scrubbed version of THE STRANGER (1946) on a pressed Blu-ray a couple of years back that was easily eclipsed by Kino's release of the film; how is a BD-R of the same title going to be of any value?


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 Post subject: Re: The Film Detective
PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:04 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: The Film Detective
PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 8:22 pm 
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Great, BD-Rs... the medium so problematic and unreliable that even Warner Archive won't use them—clearly that's the way to satisfy your customers' "desire for a Blu Ray product that offers lasting durability, playability, and collectable packaging."
Roger Ryan wrote:
So apparently "The Film Detective" is the same guy behind "The Film Chest" then. "The Film Chest" already released a DNR-scrubbed version of THE STRANGER (1946) on a pressed Blu-ray a couple of years back ... how is a BD-R of the same title going to be of any value?
Same with The Red House.
I wonder if Criterion will at least save Carnival of Souls and My Man Godfrey with non-scrubbed high-def transfers from the negatives.
Salt of the Earth really calls out for a definitive special edition. Obviously a hugely significant and unique film with a special and fascinating story behind the independent production, covert post-production, suppression, and below-the-radar appreciation for many years via unofficial/pirated 16mm prints. Still, I'm satisfied with my now-OOP DVD from Organa that was authorized by the filmmakers' heirs, and Deborah Rosenfelt's book makes an excellent supplement.


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 Post subject: Re: The Film Detective
PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 2:30 am 
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Posted by The Film Detective to the Blu-ray.com forum on November 24th:
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Just wanted to give everyone an update. The blu-ray releases are being delayed, as we were very interested in getting as much feedback from everyone as possible and accordingly improving our final releases. The good news is we will be releasing Beat the Devil in its original aspect ratio, Salt of the Earth, and Hollow Triumph at the end of the year. These will all have closed captions and we will be using no noise reduction on any of the transfers for blu-ray. We appreciate all the feedback and encouragement. The discs will be distributed and manufactured as originally planned by Allied Vaughn.


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 Post subject: Re: The Film Detective
PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 2:48 am 
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If a PD label wants to inspire confidence, they'll talk about seeking out worthwhile elements. Without that, none of these other things matter. Their promise to avoid DNR sounds like preparation of a defense against future accusations of poor image quality: "But you told us to leave the image alone!"


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 Post subject: Re: The Film Detective
PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 3:06 am 
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The Film Chest wrote:
We will put every effort into paying lip service to quality while exhausting no expense to provide it. Enjoy your burnt media of fifth-generation tape dupes in newly cropped ratios!


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 Post subject: Re: The Film Detective
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Want to chime in, as obviously we've been engaged on several threads and want to be very clear that this is never going to be an easy task, especially when dealing with PD movies. However, being the co-founder of Film Chest, which rescued and saved several libraries from extinction, including the important Al Adamson-directed Carnival Magic as well as the recently released Russ Meyers' Fanny Hill, released through Vinegar Syndrome (a company that was started with Film Chest assets that included the lost films of Herschell Gordon Lewis), we're certainly not looking to put out fifth generation, poor-quality masters, as was previous quoted on this thread. We were very early on in both blu-ray and are trying to offer titles that normally wouldn't see the light of day. We've sourced from the Library of Congress as well as our own archive and other archives as well. While we've had conflicting opinions on the use of noise reduction, others have appreciated the restorations that we've done over the years. The basic concept to work with Allied Vaughn, who works with all the major studios including Warner Archive, for on-demand media is to allow us to go deep into the catalog and put out the best quality we can and have access to while building a library that will also be available on a streaming platform as well. We're trying to find a happy medium as we approach our 2nd year as Film Detective and have some exciting libraries that have yet to see the light of day in home video. We have several people lined up for audio commentaries, consulting on aspect ratio, and are taking us very seriously. Obviously, this is no easy task, but we are passionate and motivated & bring over 20 years experience in home media.

Appreciate the feedback! Look for our blu-rays in the first quarter of 2015, and also announcements on newly-licensed titles that will be making their home video debut.


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