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Randall Maysin
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Re: Twilight Time

#2426 Post by Randall Maysin » Wed Sep 14, 2016 7:46 pm

and her shoulder has its own Agnes Moorehead!

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knives
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Re: Twilight Time

#2427 Post by knives » Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:07 pm

beamish13 wrote:
knives wrote:I like it. It certainly has one of the best late Brando performances and Penn's chosen style is a lot of fun. It, along with Night Moves, makes me think he'd have made the perfect Jim Thompson adaptation.
Hey! James Foley and After Dark, My Sweet already earned that vaulted position.
I reserve my right to say something once I've seen that.

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Re: Twilight Time

#2428 Post by DeprongMori » Thu Sep 15, 2016 2:59 am

For Jim Thompson adaptations, the French have done a great job. Alain Corneau's Serie Noire really captures Thompson's A Hell of a Woman, and Bertrand Tavernier makes a savvy decision to set Pop. 1280 in French colonial Africa with Coup de Torchon. Both capture the particular seedy insanity that underlies most Thompson novels.

I do need to see After Dark, My Sweet again. I recall that was one of the better American adaptations.

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domino harvey
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Re: Twilight Time

#2429 Post by domino harvey » Thu Sep 15, 2016 3:10 am

Speaking of, TT or, well, any label should finally release This World, Then the Fireworks. It is a cult classic still waiting to find its cult due to its compete unavailability

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Re: Twilight Time

#2430 Post by Noiradelic » Thu Sep 22, 2016 11:57 pm

rockysds wrote:
Screen Archives wrote:August 16th - IT’S A TWILIGHT TIME PACKAGE STEAL! Buy seven of any of the following Twilight Time titles for $70.00 and get a real deal. BELOVED INFIDEL, COVER GIRL, HIGH TIME, MINDWARP, PONY SOLDIER, THE DISAPPEARANCE, THE KREMLIN LETTER (DVD), THE ONLY GAME IN TOWN, THE RAINS OF RANCHIPUR, THE SONG OF BERNADETTE, THE SOUND AND THE FURY, THE WAYWARD BUS, VIOLENT SATURDAY (DVD), and WOMAN OBSESSED. This is a one-time “package price” of seven titles until they are gone. It’s okay to mix and match — just buy seven of one or one each of these titles. You must have a minimum of seven titles in your cart, but you can also create as many “packages” as you like, as long as you buy seven titles at a time. Final price will be adjusted at checkout. Package deal will go live Wednesday, August 17th at 4 PM Eastern.
SAE has expanded the list of titles eligible for the 7 for $70 sale. They may be the poorer sellers, but a much improved selection:

ALAMO BAY (1985)
BELOVED INFIDEL (1959)
BITE THE BULLET (1975)
BONJOUR TRISTESSE (1958)
COVER GIRL (1944)
DEMETRIUS AND THE GLADIATORS (1954)
DESIREE (1954)
THE DISAPPEARANCE (1977)
LOST HORIZON (1973)
LOVE IS A MANY-SPLENDORED THING (1955)
MINDWARP (1992)
NICHOLAS AND ALEXANDRA (1971)
THE ONLY GAME IN TOWN (1970)
THE OTHER (1972)
PAL JOEY (1957)
PHILADELPHIA (1993)
PONY SOLDIER (1952)
THE RAINS OF RANCHIPUR (1955)
RAPTURE (1965)
THE ROOTS OF HEAVEN (1958)
ROYAL FLASH (1975)
SEXY BEAST (2000)
THE SOUND AND THE FURY (1959)
SWAMP WATER (1941)
THE WAY WE WERE (1973)
THE WAYWARD BUS (1957)

The Blue Lagoon's sold out. You snooze you lose.

Thanks to hariseldon for compiling the list.

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Re: Twilight Time

#2431 Post by barryconvex » Thu Sep 29, 2016 12:32 am

Since TT and so many other labels apparently have their hands in the MGM cookie jar at the moment is there any chance that someone, anyone could release They Shoot Horses, Don't They? This seems like it's right up TT's alley..

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domino harvey
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Re: Twilight Time

#2432 Post by domino harvey » Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:06 am

I think MisterLime said it has strange ownership problems

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Re: Twilight Time

#2433 Post by John Doe » Thu Sep 29, 2016 11:52 am

It's with Disney via ABC.

And Mr. Lime is not a reliable source. For real. Until recently he insisted the the original Sleuth is with Paramount, even though some people have pointed out to him that it's owned by some small company, but he changed his tune lately.

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Re: Twilight Time

#2434 Post by Jeff » Thu Sep 29, 2016 1:23 pm

John Doe wrote:And Mr. Lime is not a reliable source. For real. Until recently he insisted the the original Sleuth is with Paramount, even though some people have pointed out to him that it's owned by some small company, but he changed his tune lately.
Unless something has changed recently, the remakes of Sleuth, The Heartbreak Kid, and The Stepford Wives are owned by Paramount, and the originals are owned by pharmaceutical company Bristol-Meyers Squibb.

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Re: Twilight Time

#2435 Post by barryconvex » Thu Sep 29, 2016 8:51 pm

John Doe wrote:It's with Disney via ABC...
Does that means it's not likely to get upgraded in the foreseeable future?

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Re: Twilight Time

#2436 Post by captveg » Tue Oct 04, 2016 2:34 pm

Demetrius and the Gladiators has sold out.

Vampires is down to under 100 copies at TT's website only (already sold out at SAE)

Royal Flash and Alamo Bay are no longer available at TT, though presumably there are plenty of each at SAE for the time being.

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Re: Twilight Time

#2437 Post by captveg » Thu Oct 06, 2016 2:33 pm

Vampires has sold out

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Re: Twilight Time

#2438 Post by mfunk9786 » Thu Oct 06, 2016 4:22 pm

Until they print another 3,000 of them?

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Re: Twilight Time

#2439 Post by Cold Bishop » Thu Oct 06, 2016 7:21 pm

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Re: Twilight Time

#2440 Post by captveg » Thu Oct 06, 2016 7:22 pm

mfunk9786 wrote:Until they print another 3,000 of them?
They've been rather adamant that they are done with reissues. That doesn't preclude Sony from reissuing it themselves, of course.

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#2441 Post by dwk » Thu Oct 06, 2016 7:29 pm

Sony's not going to reissue it (well, they probably will put it out in their overpriced BD-R program.) Anyone that missed it and wants a proper pressed Blu-ray, Indicator said they have Vampires (and Ghosts of Mars), so they'll probably issue it next year.

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Re: Twilight Time

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Re: Twilight Time

#2443 Post by captveg » Fri Oct 07, 2016 1:15 pm

It looks like Fox has responded to the (legit) "too blue" complaints (note how the black clothes in the MoC release look dark navy blue) by overcorrecting and going "too yellow".

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Re: Twilight Time

#2444 Post by Moe Dickstein » Fri Oct 07, 2016 2:05 pm

mfunk9786 wrote:Until they print another 3,000 of them?
This run was 5,000

They should (IMO) repress titles that sell out well once the exclusivity window passes - nobody was ever promised these were limited FOR ALL TIME, but rather they are limited to X number of copies in this 3 year period.

Unfortunately due to complaints it seems that TT has decided that they won't be doing Encore editions anymore which is a shame. This is why we can't have nice things like Dual Format.

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Re: Twilight Time

#2445 Post by tenia » Fri Oct 07, 2016 2:08 pm

Moe Dickstein wrote:They should (IMO) repress titles that sell out well once the exclusivity window passes - nobody was ever promised these were limited FOR ALL TIME, but rather they are limited to X number of copies in this 3 year period.
Even better : they should adapt their print run to the sales potential of the movie they're releasing. If your "limited edition" is still widely available 5 years after its release (so much that you have to heavily discount it to get rid of the remaining quantities), you vastly over-printed it. On the other end, if your 3000 copies are sold out in a week, maybe you should have done 5000 of them.

But I can understand how these figures can be hard to pin-point precisely in the current market. I'm quite sure surprises regarding sales figures happens more than expected.
captveg wrote:It looks like Fox has responded to the (legit) "too blue" complaints (note how the black clothes in the MoC release look dark navy blue) by overcorrecting and going "too yellow".
It's impressive how vastly different the gradings are. :shock:

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Re: Twilight Time

#2446 Post by Moe Dickstein » Fri Oct 07, 2016 2:31 pm

tenia wrote:
Moe Dickstein wrote:They should (IMO) repress titles that sell out well once the exclusivity window passes - nobody was ever promised these were limited FOR ALL TIME, but rather they are limited to X number of copies in this 3 year period.
Even better : they should adapt their print run to the sales potential of the movie they're releasing. If your "limited edition" is still widely available 5 years after its release (so much that you have to heavily discount it to get rid of the remaining quantities), you vastly over-printed it. On the other end, if your 3000 copies are sold out in a week, maybe you should have done 5000 of them.

But I can understand how these figures can be hard to pin-point precisely in the current market. I'm quite sure surprises regarding sales figures happens more than expected.
The problem is their model is different from any other studio - they are paying UP FRONT for each copy, this is how Soundtrack licenses are done and thats the world they come from. So they can't just say "gee maybe we will sell 10k of this, lets splash out up front" The sell outs have to cover the titles that lose money, and the limited edition covers that, but people seem to have this idea that its limited for all time when it's always been quite clear that it was a 3 year exclusive window.

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Re: Twilight Time

#2447 Post by swo17 » Fri Oct 07, 2016 2:37 pm

You mean like the time they said "gee maybe we will sell 5k of Vampires, lets splash out up front"? Also, things may work a certain way given the model they've chosen, but there's nothing preventing them from changing their model if they felt like it.

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Re: Twilight Time

#2448 Post by TMDaines » Fri Oct 07, 2016 6:01 pm

This is the future, swo, just remember that. All the other labels will be wanting to get on board with this soundtrack model. Just you wait!

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Re: Twilight Time

#2449 Post by domino harvey » Fri Oct 07, 2016 6:03 pm

If they really wanted to sell the soundtrack angle, why not include the actual soundtracks on a CD with the Blu-ray? That would at least justify their prices and would stand a far better chance of actually being listened to

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Re: Twilight Time

#2450 Post by Noiradelic » Fri Oct 07, 2016 6:31 pm

Moe Dickstein wrote:The problem is their model is different from any other studio
Exactly. TT has a fundamental problem and they're not doing anything about it.

It's only a matter of time before Kino puts out an ex-TT Blu-ray from Fox or MGM and the problem will be dramatically illustrated.

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