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duck duck · #951 Post by **duck duck** » Mon Dec 24, 2012 11:09 pm

I know I'm coming in really late on this but could someone explain this to me?
Paramount bought Republic, took almost everything out of print, started Olive,
licensed Republic titles to themselves (as Olive) and put them out without features for twice
the price... had WB distribute the things they took OOP, but they still licensed things
to Criterion....

Shrew · #952 Post by **Shrew** » Mon Dec 24, 2012 11:31 pm

I'm pretty sure Olive is an independent company that just seems to have a pretty good relationship with Paramount, which doesn't seem much interested in distributing most of their own films anymore. I think someone in this thread may have said that Olive was essentially Paramount's distribution, but that was just an exaggeration. And I think Republic rights were owned by Lionsgate for a long time, but then the rights went somewhere else (to Paramount?) and Olive negotiated a deal.

duck duck · #953 Post by **duck duck** » Tue Dec 25, 2012 12:32 am

From looking up Olive films on Yahoo, it seemed they were an independent company that was owned by Paramount.
The Republic rights did go to Paramount (It's A Wonderful Life). I don't know what any of this means and can't understand it.
If Paramount licensed things to Olive to put out expensive film only versions, why would Criterion not get things like Johnny Guitar,
but get things like Harold and Maud and Rosemary's Baby, that will sell more?
If it comes to money surely Criterion could afford Johnny Guitar if they can get the others?

Cronenfly · #954 Post by **Cronenfly** » Tue Dec 25, 2012 2:18 am

I've never seen this officially confirmed, but it seems as though the Republic titles were an all or nothing sort of proposition (with Paramount holding on to stuff like It's A Wonderful Life for themselves), and Criterion would never/could never take on so many titles. Personally I'm just happy these titles are getting released at all: the list price is not so outrageous, and though there are some definite drawbacks to Olive's penny-pinching (no subs, spotty approach to extras), overall I'm pretty pleased, given the relative drought in official/pressed releases across the board as of late.

#955 Post by **matrixschmatrix** » Tue Dec 25, 2012 2:22 am

Agreed. Also, impatient as I am, it's really exciting to have a flood of six or ten new titles announced every month, even if that means that half of them are garbage and none of them have been treated as well as they might have elsewhere.

Noiradelic · #956 Post by **Noiradelic** » Tue Dec 25, 2012 3:11 am

matrixschmatrix wrote:none of them have been treated as well as they might have elsewhere.

…Though a lot better than Lionsgate treated them. And they're going deeper into the catalogue and releasing more titles in HD than any major studio would've bothered to.

A brief history of Olive from Time Out Chicago. No Paramount business stake that I'm aware of. Wasn't that long ago that Olive was as much a boutique etailer of other companies' product as their own. Used to carry Criterions.

duck duck · #957 Post by **duck duck** » Tue Dec 25, 2012 3:24 am

Interesting, thanks for the answers. And I agree that Olive is putting out things on Blu that are things I've seen on AMC in the mid '90's.
It's things like "Thinner" that throw me...
And that explains why they have Godard and Fassbinder titles, rather than Criterion.

#958 Post by **domino harvey** » Sat Dec 29, 2012 11:13 pm

More Feb titles, both Blus:
Les tontons flingueurs a.k.a Monsieur Gangster (Georges Lautner 1963)
Les Barbouzes a.k.a The Great Spy Chase (Georges Lautner 1964)

Titus · #959 Post by **Titus** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 3:10 pm

bluray.com review of The Quiet Man.

Drucker · #960 Post by **Drucker** » Sat Jan 05, 2013 9:04 pm

Good lord that looks beautiful.

htdm · #961 Post by **htdm** » Sun Jan 06, 2013 2:41 am

definitely buying this now

#962 Post by **domino harvey** » Mon Jan 14, 2013 7:58 pm

Buncha John Waynes in March: Westward Ho, the Lawless Nineties, Wyoming Outlaw, A Man Betrayed, and McLintock!

Calvin · #963 Post by **Calvin** » Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:34 pm

Also in March:

The Sun Shines Bright is the Republic title I was most looking forward to, glad to see it confirmed

#964 Post by **domino harvey** » Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:40 pm

Oh my god, the Devil and Miss Jones on Blu?!?! Charles Coburn's finest hour available to the masses at last!

colinr0380 · #965 Post by **colinr0380** » Wed Jan 16, 2013 3:58 pm

Wonderful to see Ruthless and China Gate getting their due as well.

Calvin · #966 Post by **Calvin** » Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:10 pm

I wonder if they've had enough time to get a Tag Gallagher essay for The Sun Shines Bright

Cold Bishop · #967 Post by **Cold Bishop** » Wed Jan 16, 2013 4:57 pm

Olive had my curiosity before this... but now they have my attention!

By all means, China Gate is minor Fuller, but, much like Plunder Road, this is a film whose widescreen print seemed to have fallen off the face of the earth.

I'll leave domino to fawn over The Devil and Miss Jones (or maybe not: I think I still owe you a write-up from the 40s project), but both Ruthless and The Sun Shines Bright are two sort-of masterpieces, the latter of which I never expected to see cleaned up.

hearthesilence · #968 Post by **hearthesilence** » Wed Jan 16, 2013 5:12 pm

Glad to see The Sun Shines Bright back in print, I've only seen this as a YouTube upload. (FWIW, I'm more partial towards Judge Priest.)

Zot! · #969 Post by **Zot!** » Wed Jan 16, 2013 6:23 pm

Ironweed is interesting one too, I seem to remember liking it more than Barfly.

whaleallright · #970 Post by **whaleallright** » Thu Jan 17, 2013 12:39 am

holy shit, Ruthless on Blu-Ray! we live in a Golden Age, folks.

McCrutchy · #971 Post by **McCrutchy** » Thu Jan 17, 2013 2:32 am

Oh my god, Ironweed! I spent YEARS trying to find this in widescreen, and a couple years ago, I finally tracked down the TF1 French DVD that is anamorphic widescreen and paid almost €50 for it (forced subs and all) on the Amazon.fr Marketplace. There might have been a few non-anamorphic DVDs circling around the world, but most, including the Lionsgate US DVD (from 2009!) were 1.33:1, so the Blu-ray announcement is beyond amazing...

Mind you, the French disc does have a couple short extras, one of which is a short interview with Streep from the time of the film.

Peacock · #972 Post by **Peacock** » Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:12 am

Trust me on this one guys as I can't really say on here why, but if you want Olive to include a T Gallagher visual essay on their upcoming The Sun Shines Bright release, you have to contact them to let them know as it looks like they're changing their mind about using him for one. So please, for the sake of all us Ford fans, send 'em a message thru their website or FB!

Fingers crossed this'll work.

AlexHansen · #973 Post by **AlexHansen** » Thu Jan 17, 2013 10:30 am

Done and done. Nothing deepens my appreciation for a film more than Tag's essays.

dx23 · #974 Post by **dx23** » Fri Jan 25, 2013 7:50 pm

I see that they are releasing Monster Squad on 2/19. Does anyone know what the extras are? Are they going to port the extras from the Lionsgate release? I checked the Olive films website and for some reason they don't have this listed at all, yet Amazon and the Digital Bits say that this is being released.

Props55 · #975 Post by **Props55** » Sat Jan 26, 2013 12:46 pm

Anyone here have any info (or links to) what the streaming rights status of the Olive films would be. I hadn't thought about it until a friend asked if any of these titles were available on Hulu or other services. None of the articles I've found so far address anything other than Olive's physical media rights to the Paramount and Republic library. It would seem that if Paramount is no longer interested in directly marketing their holdings (deep library = Olive; contemporary = Warner) then they would still want to maximize profits by licensing the streaming rights to one of the established service providers.

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