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kingofthejungle
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Re: Olive Films

#1376 Post by kingofthejungle » Wed May 07, 2014 8:30 pm

Gregory wrote:"Opuls"?
That is, for some godforsaken reason, how Ophuls was credited on his American films.

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Re: Olive Films

#1377 Post by Gregory » Wed May 07, 2014 8:55 pm

Yeah, but that's not how Olive billed him on the cover of Letter from an Unknown Woman, which was also a U.S. film. Seems like an odd and unnecessary decision.

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Re: Olive Films

#1378 Post by boywonder » Thu May 08, 2014 2:13 am

Ashirg wrote:Wow, some of those covers look ugly.

http://classicflix.com/OLIVE-Caught-Pea ... 31044.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I don't get Lost Moment cover and Mr. Peabody and The Mermaid looks like was done by swimminghorses.
I can assure you Swimminghorses would consider it an honor to have designed the cover to "Mr. Peabody and the Mermaid"!

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Re: Olive Films

#1379 Post by Jack Phillips » Thu May 08, 2014 9:52 am

domino harvey wrote:Really? I think they're clearly bringing some Criterion-aping A Game. I mean, if anyone on this board knows me, they know I hate Caught but that's an AMAZING cover:
In fact it's a not very interesting variation on what was done for the Wild Side DVD release.

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Re: Olive Films

#1380 Post by isakborg » Thu May 08, 2014 10:48 am

How could anyone hate Caught? Hate implying something deserving of hate, i.e., pernicious, completely worthless, etc. I'm not looking to debate the matter. I just cannot imagine on what grounds the film (which, yes, I like immensely as I do all of Ophuls) could be "hated".

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Re: Olive Films

#1381 Post by knives » Thu May 08, 2014 12:13 pm

Dom finds it to be exactly those things. Or in his words it is the worst film he's ever seen by a director capable of great movies. I personally wouldn't go that far, but it isn't a film I would want to see again.
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Re: Olive Films

#1382 Post by swo17 » Thu May 08, 2014 12:21 pm

See again either?

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Re: Olive Films

#1383 Post by domino harvey » Thu May 08, 2014 1:27 pm

Yes, the ol' "Worst film by a great director" declaration, which has found considerable competition in the interim from the likes of Rollover and the Cotton Club and more I'm sure

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Re: Olive Films

#1384 Post by Lowry_Sam » Thu May 08, 2014 1:35 pm

knives wrote:Dom finds it to be exactly those things. Or in his words it is the worst film he's ever seen by a director capable of great movies. I personally wouldn't go that far, but it isn't a film I would want to see again.
I'd rather sit through Caught than

IAMMMMW
Fat Girl
Tiny Furniture
Chasing Amy
Armageddon
The Rock
Contempt

and anything by Wes Anderson :)

I consider Godard & Kramer capable directors. ..I guess I'm the only one who hasn't cared for anything Wes Anderson has done so far. Technically he seems capable, it's just nothing he's done has compelled me to see it more than once (or even through to the end, although I have been able to listen to all of his Terry Gross interviews on NPR in full). I'm sure (almost) everyone can come up with a number of titles in the catalog that are more insufferable than the worst film by Ophuls (if you do consider Caught his worst).

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Re: Olive Films

#1385 Post by domino harvey » Thu May 08, 2014 1:39 pm

None of those films were made by "great directors" though (at least not my definition)

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Re: Olive Films

#1386 Post by domino harvey » Thu May 08, 2014 1:40 pm

domino harvey wrote:Yes, the ol' "Worst film by a great director" declaration, which has found considerable competition in the interim from the likes of Rollover and the Cotton Club and more I'm sure
...and with all the Ford talk, What Price Glory?

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Re: Olive Films

#1387 Post by Mr Sausage » Thu May 08, 2014 2:06 pm

domino harvey wrote:None of those films were made by "great directors" though (at least not my definition)
Godard isn't a great director in your definition?

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Re: Olive Films

#1388 Post by knives » Thu May 08, 2014 2:07 pm

domino harvey wrote:None of those films were made by "great directors" though (at least not my definition)
Even Contempt? :wink: Though of course this goes down to show how much these proclamations are as subject to personal taste as any other one which suggests a hierarchy of quality.

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Re: Olive Films

#1389 Post by domino harvey » Thu May 08, 2014 2:10 pm

Okay, clearly I somehow missed Contempt at the end of that list. JLG is of course one my very favorite directors. Carry on!

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Re: Olive Films

#1390 Post by kingofthejungle » Thu May 08, 2014 2:28 pm

domino harvey wrote:
domino harvey wrote:Yes, the ol' "Worst film by a great director" declaration, which has found considerable competition in the interim from the likes of Rollover and the Cotton Club and more I'm sure
...and with all the Ford talk, What Price Glory?
Oh no, The Plough and The Stars is much worse than What Price Glory. Much, much worse.

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Re: Olive Films

#1391 Post by domino harvey » Thu May 08, 2014 2:34 pm

It may well be, I have not seen it yet!

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Re: Olive Films

#1392 Post by whaleallright » Thu May 08, 2014 2:42 pm

Image
but what's the name of the movie??

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domino harvey
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Re: Olive Films

#1393 Post by domino harvey » Thu May 08, 2014 2:45 pm

This is why we can't have nice things

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Re: Olive Films

#1394 Post by knives » Thu May 08, 2014 2:57 pm

domino harvey wrote:It may well be, I have not seen it yet!
You'd be wise to continue that trajectory. It's like if The Informer replaced the good stuff with bad (or worse I guess) accents. The good thing is it's only about an hour long which is probably enough to keep it off the list.

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Re: Olive Films

#1395 Post by mteller » Thu May 08, 2014 4:18 pm

Caught can't be a Worst Film By A Great Director because Lola Montes, The Reckless Moment and Le Plaisir are all worse.

So there.

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Re: Olive Films

#1396 Post by swo17 » Thu May 08, 2014 4:21 pm

If you're suggesting that all of those films are bad, then how does Ophuls still figure as a great director?

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Re: Olive Films

#1397 Post by mteller » Fri May 09, 2014 11:51 am

You will note I didn't say they were bad, I said they were worse (than Caught). I don't think any of them are bad, and certainly not bad enough to discredit Ophuls as one of the greats.

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Re: Olive Films

#1398 Post by whaleallright » Fri May 09, 2014 3:02 pm

challenging opinions!

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Re: Olive Films

#1399 Post by Black Hat » Tue May 13, 2014 3:07 am

The last page or so of this thread needs to be entered into this forum's annals of comedy. Good stuff. I don't know what it is about Lola Montes or Martine Carol but I can't get enough of both.

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Re: Olive Films

#1400 Post by boywonder » Tue May 13, 2014 4:04 am

Black Hat wrote:The last page or so of this thread needs to be entered into this forum's annals of comedy. Good stuff. I don't know what it is about Lola Montes or Martine Carol but I can't get enough of both.
Me, too! And I will most happily sit through "Lola Montez" & "The Reckless Moment" again and again!

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