465 Dodes'ka-den

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Re: 465 Dodes'ka-den

#76 Post by Napier » Thu Jun 25, 2009 5:43 pm

It just goes to show that war, and bad mackerel. Can be hell.

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Re: 465 Dodes'ka-den

#77 Post by tartarlamb » Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:00 pm

kaujot wrote:Well, he sort of was, in a way, wasn't he? The depression, family loss, suicide attempt, etc.?
Well, when you put it that way...

I suppose (like everyone else) my opinion is tainted by the performances I've seen. Every time I see Lear, whatever actor plays Edmund invariably steals the show -- particularly in those early scenes. The first time I saw it performed, the actor was so devilish and had a peculiar way of shattering the fourth war and shocking the audience, rather than just gliding through his asides and soliloquies. He brought the house down.

More on topic, I love Kurosawa's Shakespeare films, but they do not work for me as adaptations of their respective plays. The fact that Shakespeare is a source or inspiration is completely uninteresting to me in all of them. They have their virtues, but there's none of the Bard in them at all.

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Re: 465 Dodes'ka-den

#78 Post by kaujot » Thu Jun 25, 2009 7:01 pm

I was referring to AK, not Lear.

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Re: 465 Dodes'ka-den

#79 Post by Michael Kerpan » Thu Jun 25, 2009 8:42 pm

tartarlamb wrote:More on topic, I love Kurosawa's Shakespeare films, but they do not work for me as adaptations of their respective plays. The fact that Shakespeare is a source or inspiration is completely uninteresting to me in all of them. They have their virtues, but there's none of the Bard in them at all.
I think Throne of Blood does get at least some of the essence of Macbeth. I don't think Bad Sleep Well even pretends to do more than evoke a few elements from Hamlet.

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Re: 465 Dodes'ka-den

#80 Post by knives » Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:23 pm

domino harvey wrote:
oldsheperd wrote:Didn't JLG do a version of King Lear with Woody Allen and Molly Ringwald?
Sort of. It's an adaptation of the first three pages of King Lear and then it sort of turns into a Jeanne d'Arc movie by the end. And there's feral models and Shakespeare's post-apocalyptic descendant and Godard sporting a haircut made of film strips, all of which were sadly missing in the source text
Fuck King Lear I want to see that. Almost sparks an interest in JLG.

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Re: 465 Dodes'ka-den

#81 Post by manicsounds » Fri Jun 26, 2009 8:30 am

Wasn't this the Dodeskaden thread?

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Re: 465 Dodes'ka-den

#82 Post by oldsheperd » Fri Jun 26, 2009 10:32 am

Sorry, Manic
I watched Dodeskaden.
It was beautifully shot but depressing and I couldn't get into it.
There, back on track.

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Re: 465 Dodes'ka-den

#83 Post by Napier » Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:06 am

And always, I mean always, cook mackerel.

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Re: 465 Dodes'ka-den

#84 Post by Michael Kerpan » Fri Jun 26, 2009 11:17 am

Napier wrote:And always, I mean always, cook mackerel.
For more on the topic of eating improperly prepared mackerel

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Re: 465 Dodes'ka-den

#85 Post by HerrSchreck » Fri Jun 26, 2009 12:27 pm

I'll stick w sashimi serving of tuna, yellowtail, eel, clam, salmon, octopus spread across the platter in neverending amounts. And some "super white tuna" for the digestion (careful schreck, careful... too much and you'll run for the runs!).

No mackerel for me.

Ah, sashimi. Gobble it for breakfast. Love it for lunch. Go broke for it at dinner.

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