396 Ace in the Hole

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#101 Post by aox » Tue Aug 05, 2008 11:53 pm

reno dakota wrote:
aox wrote:Sorry to bring this up, but are the audio skips/blips during the credits universal, or do I have a defective disc? I can't tell if they are digital or not.
I just checked my disc and found no audio problems in the spots you mention (not sure what the $20*0 is, though). Have you tried playing the disc in a different player, or on a computer?
Thanks so much for the response. The "20*0" was to indicate the blip at 4:50 as the voice uttered "$200". It happened during the word where the * was. "Two Hun*ed"

I appreciate your reply. Honestly, I think my HDMI cable went bad. The rest of the film isn't bad as all, but I had the same problem with Mishima's "Patriotism". My copy popped so I rented it last week and the same "pops" occurred.

The only other option I have right now is my laptop. I am sure I have an equipment problem.

Again, Thank you for checking the source.

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Re: 396 Ace in the Hole

#102 Post by ArchCarrier » Thu Sep 09, 2010 9:13 am

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#103 Post by HarryLong » Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:18 am

Once it reaches them, the diameter of the rescue borehole will be very narrow. so each miner will have to ensure they have a waistline of no more than 90 cm (35 in) to escape.
And at the top of the page... an ad for Tummy Tuck jeans...

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#104 Post by willoneill » Thu Sep 09, 2010 10:35 am

And to top it off, the miners have to do some digging and rock moving on their end, and they're not getting paid while they're down there. They could probably sue when they get rescued, but the company has no money, and you can't get blood from a stone.

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#105 Post by dad1153 » Thu Sep 09, 2010 1:53 pm

^^^ They'll have plenty of dough to go around when they sell their movie/book rights to the highest bidder (you know its coming). Even better, they'll be breathing! :roll:

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#106 Post by aox » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:05 pm

dad1153 wrote:^^^ They'll have plenty of dough to go around when they sell their movie/book rights to the highest bidder (you know its coming). Even better, they'll be breathing! :roll:
I doubt anyone will care, and if they live, they won't get a dime.

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#107 Post by jojo » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:22 pm

Heh, actually this movie was the first thing that came to my mind when I first heard of this story back in August.

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#108 Post by dad1153 » Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:44 pm

^^^ So did I. Even if they all live and get out, just the drama of being stuck several hundred feet underground with other human beings in cramped spaces (without the certitude that things won't go wrong at any moment) without them knowing (or knowing) it will be MONTHS before they see daylight and their loved one's again (plus the whole 'world is watching' angle which includes the Pope praying for them and the constant communication with the surface by electronic devices) is practically screaming to be turned into a TV mini-series or good movie. When they showed video of the miners down there waving to the camera and telling their families they were OK I was shocked and riveted, and nine times out of ten I don't care to follow mining accidents beyond the usual 'glad that's not how I make a living' reaction. In most mining accidents there's an explosion/avalanche and POOF, dozens/hundreds of miners die, the media shows up to cover the grieving familes/outraged politicians/shocked communities and to stare at mountains of rubble and equipment for a few days, then the press moves on to the next car crash/hurricane/Earthquake/etc. Why does this always happen? No video or contact with the trapped miners. Without A/V of them trapped or dead miners are just an abstract figure of speech, a hypothetical 'what if' while there's still oxygen/hope for rescue that, after a few days of (often false) hope, becomes a creepy exhumation of dead bodies for proper burial. Imagine what an Oliver Stone (not the one from "Wall Street 2" but the one from "World Trade Center"), Sodenbergh or Fincher could do if given proper resources with this unfolding real-life scenario. More than likely we'll end up getting an "Alive"-type human endurance-type movie, but just as an establishing core to the narrative these trapped miners are gold mines of first-hand observation that could feed a really well-made screenplay (i.e. consultant fees).

So, any chance we'll get "Ace in the Hole" on Blu anytime soon? :wink: :roll:

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#109 Post by ArchCarrier » Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:53 pm

dad1153 wrote:Oliver Stone (not the one from "Wall Street 2" but the one from "World Trade Center")
Curious what you mean by this. Is Wall Street really that bad? :x

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#110 Post by aox » Thu Sep 09, 2010 4:01 pm

and more importantly, was World Trade Center really that good?

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#111 Post by ArchCarrier » Thu Sep 09, 2010 4:11 pm

That's what I mean :D

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#112 Post by dad1153 » Thu Sep 09, 2010 4:45 pm

Well, a portion of "WTC" has NYC firefighters (Cage and what's-his-name) trapped underneath the rubble of the first tower that collapsed. We knew these guys lived in the end but Stone, using the guys' memories (including that moment where one of them imagines Jesus is pulling him from the rubble) and a conventional docu-drama template, managed to make what could have been boring and generic trapped-by-rubble time-waster scenes into something dramatic and compelling (IMHO of course). "WTC" was proof, to me, that Stone could do a decent non-political dramatization of real-life events which is why I threw him in with the Masters as a potential candidate for a 'trapped miners' movie (his recent lovefest with South American politics would actually be a plus for the inevitable scenes of media/world population following these miners' fates). At least a good no-BS documentary... :-#

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#113 Post by CSM126 » Thu Sep 09, 2010 5:11 pm

aox wrote:and more importantly, was World Trade Center really that good?
No.

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#114 Post by dad1153 » Thu Sep 09, 2010 7:22 pm

Yes. (ducks)


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#116 Post by jojo » Thu Oct 14, 2010 3:07 pm

The article ended just when they were getting to the relevant part of the film... :?

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#117 Post by domino harvey » Fri Feb 14, 2014 10:48 pm

Blu-ray upgrade coming May 6th

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#118 Post by flyonthewall2983 » Fri Feb 14, 2014 11:21 pm

Awesome, maybe we'll get blu's of Downhill Racer and Friends Of Eddie Coyle from Paramount soon too.

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#120 Post by Drucker » Thu Apr 17, 2014 1:58 pm

DVD Beaver compares the MOC and Criterion.

I've said from the outset I'd get the MOC for continuity, since they did such a great job with Lost Weekend and Double Indemnity, and I see no reason not to. Though the only place it seems the Criterion might really be "too dark" (based on the caps) is in that 6th set of caps. Look at the side of Douglas's face.

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#121 Post by tenia » Thu Apr 17, 2014 3:38 pm

And he hastily states that the Criterion has a 2.35 AR in the specs.
Ah, Gary. One day, you'll learn to proof-read twice rather than rushing to upload your reviews.
Drucker wrote:Though the only place it seems the Criterion might really be "too dark" (based on the caps) is in that 6th set of caps. Look at the side of Douglas's face.
I'm more concerned by the 3rd set of caps, which are of a low-lit shot, and where some hair get lost in the darkness. But I'm quite sure it's not really bothering in movement.

I'll get both releases anyway.

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Re: 396 Ace in the Hole

#122 Post by cdnchris » Wed May 07, 2014 10:53 am

For those that haven't gone Blu-ray yet and are annoyed by the window-boxing of the old DVD only release, you may want to know that the DVD transfers on the dual-format edition are no longer window-boxed, other than very faint black lines at the top and bottom. The discs are the same in every other respect, but it's obvious this got a new encode.

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