261-264 Fanny and Alexander

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hearthesilence
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Re: 261-264 Fanny and Alexander

#251 Post by hearthesilence » Mon Aug 15, 2011 4:12 pm

DAMN - makes my question a moot point!

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Re: 261-264 Fanny and Alexander

#252 Post by AALFW » Mon Aug 15, 2011 4:13 pm

Tom Hagen wrote:Well considering that one of the DVDs was essentially 30 minutes of Bergman introductions to his films, and that two more were the TV cut (which will probably land on one Blu), it shouldn't be too difficult.
I didn't think the TV cut in 1080p could fit on one Blu, clocking in at over 5 hours.

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Re: 261-264 Fanny and Alexander

#253 Post by Tom Hagen » Mon Aug 15, 2011 4:22 pm

Perhaps both cuts, together, over two discs (ala the pre-Blu Apocalypse Now dvd release). Either way, the special features and documentary can easily fit onto one disc.

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Re: 261-264 Fanny and Alexander

#254 Post by andyli » Mon Aug 15, 2011 4:30 pm

Tom Hagen wrote:Perhaps both cuts, together, over two discs (ala the pre-Blu Apocalypse Now dvd release). Either way, the special features and documentary can easily fit onto one disc.
the pre-Blu Apocalypse Now dvd release used seamless branching to save space, just like the LotR Limited Edition DVDs. I don't think Criterion will use seamless branching to do F&A.

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Re: 261-264 Fanny and Alexander

#255 Post by PfR73 » Mon Aug 15, 2011 4:31 pm

Could be theatrical on 1 disc & TV split over 2 discs with all the bonus features distributed among the 3 discs.

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Re: 261-264 Fanny and Alexander

#256 Post by tenia » Mon Aug 15, 2011 6:13 pm

Indeed, it is interesting, since it has around 700 minutes of video whatsoever to fit into 3 discs.
That may be slighly too much.

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Re: 261-264 Fanny and Alexander

#257 Post by zedz » Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:44 pm

Wouldn't this work?
Disc One - Theatrical Version
Disc Two - TV version Pt 1 + Making of *
Disc Three - TV version Pt 2 + other extras

* or simply putting the making of with whichever 'half' of the Television version has the shorter running time - this would be 265 minutes tops, which is way less that they squeezed onto the Last Emperor Blu-Ray, for example.

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Re: 261-264 Fanny and Alexander

#258 Post by Der Spieler » Wed Nov 02, 2011 5:22 pm

So zero review of this yet?

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Re: 261-264 Fanny and Alexander

#259 Post by hearthesilence » Wed Nov 02, 2011 5:44 pm

andyli wrote:I don't think Criterion will use seamless branching to do F&A.
Criterion doesn't like seamless branching because some people (or some players) in the past had trouble playing discs with it properly.

I forgot where I read/heard this, but it was directly from someone who worked for Criterion.

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Re: 261-264 Fanny and Alexander

#260 Post by tenia » Thu Nov 03, 2011 2:14 am

zedz wrote:Wouldn't this work?
Disc One - Theatrical Version
Disc Two - TV version Pt 1 + Making of *
Disc Three - TV version Pt 2 + other extras

* or simply putting the making of with whichever 'half' of the Television version has the shorter running time - this would be 265 minutes tops, which is way less that they squeezed onto the Last Emperor Blu-Ray, for example.
This would have worked perfectly, since extra features files are smaller, thus leaving more room on each disc for the main feature to breathe.

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Re: 261-264 Fanny and Alexander

#261 Post by stevewhamola » Thu Nov 03, 2011 4:19 am

They probably thought it was more beneficial to make the television viewable without disc swapping rather than giving each part marginally more disc space. I'm not too worried about it and I'm sure it will look great.

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Re: 261-264 Fanny and Alexander

#262 Post by MichaelB » Thu Nov 03, 2011 4:39 am

stevewhamola wrote:They probably thought it was more beneficial to make the television viewable without disc swapping rather than giving each part marginally more disc space.
Surely the TV series format (i.e. complete with bookending opening and closing credits for each episode) makes it entirely natural and reasonable to split it across more than one disc?

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Re: 261-264 Fanny and Alexander

#263 Post by stevewhamola » Thu Nov 03, 2011 4:52 am

Yes that's a perfectly valid line of reasoning. But even if the television cut was divided between two discs they'd put special features on each disc freeing up maybe a few gigs more for the main feature. Six of one half a dozen of the other I'd say.

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Re: 261-264 Fanny and Alexander

#264 Post by ccfixx » Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:24 pm


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Re: 261-264 Fanny and Alexander

#265 Post by swo17 » Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:31 pm

He doesn't mention any problems with the TV version being too compressed, though the bitrate is significantly smaller (17.99 vs. 28.48 for the theatrical version). At least they seem to be getting as much out of it as they can for putting it all on one disc. (It takes us 48.7 GBs.)
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Re: 261-264 Fanny and Alexander

#266 Post by Matt » Thu Nov 03, 2011 12:33 pm

swo17 wrote:He doesn't mention any problems with the TV version being too compressed, though the bitrate is significantly smaller (17.99 vs. 28.48).
DVD Beaver wrote:Both Criterion feature discs show nice grain with a shade more noise on the longer TV version.
But that could just be the source material.

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Re: 261-264 Fanny and Alexander

#267 Post by knives » Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:09 pm

Anyone find it odd he lists the Criterion Blu as region free?

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Re: 261-264 Fanny and Alexander

#268 Post by triodelover » Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:45 pm

knives wrote:Anyone find it odd he lists the Criterion Blu as region free?
Yup. That would be a first, wouldn't it?

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Re: 261-264 Fanny and Alexander

#269 Post by swo17 » Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:48 pm

It would be the first time CC released a region-free Blu-ray, but not the first time Gary has made that mistake.

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Re: 261-264 Fanny and Alexander

#270 Post by triodelover » Thu Nov 03, 2011 1:54 pm

swo17 wrote:It would be the first time CC released a region-free Blu-ray, but not the first time Gary has made that mistake.
Now Gary's gonna think I'm Bud Abbot to your Lou Costello, setting you up for the punch line (pretty literally in this case).

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Re: 261-264 Fanny and Alexander

#271 Post by Aspect » Thu Nov 03, 2011 3:31 pm

Wow! The Blu-ray is so much more colorful than the DVD. Couple that with the obvious improvement in detail and this has become a definite upgrade! As if it wasn't already...

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Re: 261-264 Fanny and Alexander

#272 Post by Der Spieler » Thu Nov 03, 2011 7:15 pm

I re-watched the TV version last week and I remember finding the colors a bit dull. I haven't seen the film theatrically, so I can't say for sure how it's supposed to look, but the Blu-ray does seem a lot more pleasing to the eye.

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Re: 261-264 Fanny and Alexander

#273 Post by stwrt » Mon Nov 07, 2011 3:56 am

The Criterion announcement lists this as a single Blu-Ray disc, so are all 5 DVDs squeezed onto a single Blu-Ray ?


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Re: 261-264 Fanny and Alexander

#275 Post by stwrt » Mon Nov 07, 2011 8:43 am

Many thanks, I was looking at the wrong page where it says "Number of Discs: 1".

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