261-264 Fanny and Alexander
- hearthesilence
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DAMN - makes my question a moot point!
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I didn't think the TV cut in 1080p could fit on one Blu, clocking in at over 5 hours.Tom Hagen wrote:Well considering that one of the DVDs was essentially 30 minutes of Bergman introductions to his films, and that two more were the TV cut (which will probably land on one Blu), it shouldn't be too difficult.
- Tom Hagen
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Re: 261-264 Fanny and Alexander
Perhaps both cuts, together, over two discs (ala the pre-Blu Apocalypse Now dvd release). Either way, the special features and documentary can easily fit onto one disc.
- andyli
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the pre-Blu Apocalypse Now dvd release used seamless branching to save space, just like the LotR Limited Edition DVDs. I don't think Criterion will use seamless branching to do F&A.Tom Hagen wrote:Perhaps both cuts, together, over two discs (ala the pre-Blu Apocalypse Now dvd release). Either way, the special features and documentary can easily fit onto one disc.
- PfR73
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Could be theatrical on 1 disc & TV split over 2 discs with all the bonus features distributed among the 3 discs.
- tenia
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Indeed, it is interesting, since it has around 700 minutes of video whatsoever to fit into 3 discs.
That may be slighly too much.
That may be slighly too much.
- zedz
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Wouldn't this work?
Disc One - Theatrical Version
Disc Two - TV version Pt 1 + Making of *
Disc Three - TV version Pt 2 + other extras
* or simply putting the making of with whichever 'half' of the Television version has the shorter running time - this would be 265 minutes tops, which is way less that they squeezed onto the Last Emperor Blu-Ray, for example.
Disc One - Theatrical Version
Disc Two - TV version Pt 1 + Making of *
Disc Three - TV version Pt 2 + other extras
* or simply putting the making of with whichever 'half' of the Television version has the shorter running time - this would be 265 minutes tops, which is way less that they squeezed onto the Last Emperor Blu-Ray, for example.
- Der Spieler
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So zero review of this yet?
- hearthesilence
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Criterion doesn't like seamless branching because some people (or some players) in the past had trouble playing discs with it properly.andyli wrote:I don't think Criterion will use seamless branching to do F&A.
I forgot where I read/heard this, but it was directly from someone who worked for Criterion.
- tenia
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This would have worked perfectly, since extra features files are smaller, thus leaving more room on each disc for the main feature to breathe.zedz wrote:Wouldn't this work?
Disc One - Theatrical Version
Disc Two - TV version Pt 1 + Making of *
Disc Three - TV version Pt 2 + other extras
* or simply putting the making of with whichever 'half' of the Television version has the shorter running time - this would be 265 minutes tops, which is way less that they squeezed onto the Last Emperor Blu-Ray, for example.
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They probably thought it was more beneficial to make the television viewable without disc swapping rather than giving each part marginally more disc space. I'm not too worried about it and I'm sure it will look great.
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Surely the TV series format (i.e. complete with bookending opening and closing credits for each episode) makes it entirely natural and reasonable to split it across more than one disc?stevewhamola wrote:They probably thought it was more beneficial to make the television viewable without disc swapping rather than giving each part marginally more disc space.
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Yes that's a perfectly valid line of reasoning. But even if the television cut was divided between two discs they'd put special features on each disc freeing up maybe a few gigs more for the main feature. Six of one half a dozen of the other I'd say.
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- swo17
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Re: 261-264 Fanny and Alexander
He doesn't mention any problems with the TV version being too compressed, though the bitrate is significantly smaller (17.99 vs. 28.48 for the theatrical version). At least they seem to be getting as much out of it as they can for putting it all on one disc. (It takes us 48.7 GBs.)
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swo17 wrote:He doesn't mention any problems with the TV version being too compressed, though the bitrate is significantly smaller (17.99 vs. 28.48).
But that could just be the source material.DVD Beaver wrote:Both Criterion feature discs show nice grain with a shade more noise on the longer TV version.
- knives
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Anyone find it odd he lists the Criterion Blu as region free?
- triodelover
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Yup. That would be a first, wouldn't it?knives wrote:Anyone find it odd he lists the Criterion Blu as region free?
- swo17
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It would be the first time CC released a region-free Blu-ray, but not the first time Gary has made that mistake.
- triodelover
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Now Gary's gonna think I'm Bud Abbot to your Lou Costello, setting you up for the punch line (pretty literally in this case).swo17 wrote:It would be the first time CC released a region-free Blu-ray, but not the first time Gary has made that mistake.
- Aspect
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Wow! The Blu-ray is so much more colorful than the DVD. Couple that with the obvious improvement in detail and this has become a definite upgrade! As if it wasn't already...
- Der Spieler
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I re-watched the TV version last week and I remember finding the colors a bit dull. I haven't seen the film theatrically, so I can't say for sure how it's supposed to look, but the Blu-ray does seem a lot more pleasing to the eye.
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The Criterion announcement lists this as a single Blu-Ray disc, so are all 5 DVDs squeezed onto a single Blu-Ray ?
- knives
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Many thanks, I was looking at the wrong page where it says "Number of Discs: 1".