335 Elevator to the Gallows

Discuss DVDs and Blu-rays released by Criterion and the films on them. If it's got a spine number, it's in here. Threads may contain spoilers.
Message
Author
User avatar
Ashirg
Posts: 2126
Joined: Wed Nov 03, 2004 9:10 am
Location: Atlanta

Re: 335 Elevator to the Gallows

#76 Post by Ashirg » Wed Nov 15, 2017 6:12 pm

Press release also doesn't mention it being a 2-disc release.

User avatar
tenia
Posts: 3549
Joined: Wed Apr 29, 2009 11:13 am

Re: 335 Elevator to the Gallows

#77 Post by tenia » Wed Nov 15, 2017 6:14 pm

The 2 DVDs werent especially full but were still combining 11.5 Gb of data. It's thus surprising now to try and cram this into 1 DVD only, but MPEG2 encoding skills might have improved enough in the meantime.

User avatar
swo17
Posts: 13560
Joined: Tue Apr 15, 2008 10:25 am
Location: SLC, UT

Re: 335 Elevator to the Gallows

#78 Post by swo17 » Wed Nov 15, 2017 6:15 pm

"If you care that much about picture quality, you'll buy the Blu-ray."

Rupert Pupkin
Posts: 317
Joined: Thu Oct 20, 2005 9:34 am

Re: 335 Elevator to the Gallows

#79 Post by Rupert Pupkin » Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:34 am

Isn't the Blu-Ray by Artificial Eye better than the poor Gaumont HD transfer ? I can't find a test of this title at blu-ray.com whereas it is on the Louis Malle A.Eye box set.

I hope that like - let's say - Band à Part, Criterion will get a pre-DNR transfer. At least if the Artificial Eye turned out to be better than the Gaumont, there's good hopes....
oops, there's a blu-ray test of the Artificial Eye blu-ray and it's an improvement over the Gaumont BR (so there's hope for a good Criterion picture quality) : "Curzon/Artificial Eye's new release of Elevator to the Gallows is sourced from the same restored master that Gaumont prepared and used a few years ago, but the technical presentation is vastly superior." (source: blu-ray.com)

User avatar
TMDaines
Posts: 3681
Joined: Wed Nov 11, 2009 1:01 pm
Location: Stretford, Manchester

Re: 335 Elevator to the Gallows

#80 Post by TMDaines » Thu Nov 16, 2017 9:30 am

Going to be difficult to overlook the AE set when it is £20-30 so. Pretty much 10 films for the price of a Criterion or two. 2 films and extras versus 2 films + 8 bonus films.

User avatar
manicsounds
Posts: 3888
Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2004 10:58 pm
Location: Tokyo, Japan

Re: 335 Elevator to the Gallows

#81 Post by manicsounds » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:11 am

The Artificial Eye UK and Gaumont France Blu-rays have the film in open matte 1.37:1, while the Criterion will retain the 1.66:1 ratio as was the older DVD edition.

I highly recommend the Blu-ray of Miles Davis' score presented in lossless stereo. Although I'm not sure if it's out of print or not. Seems hard to find suddenly.

Image

User avatar
Reeniop41
Posts: 35
Joined: Fri Jul 19, 2013 11:06 pm
Location: Southwest US

Re: 335 Elevator to the Gallows

#82 Post by Reeniop41 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:39 am

manicsounds wrote:The Artificial Eye UK and Gaumont France Blu-rays have the film in open matte 1.37:1, while the Criterion will retain the 1.66:1 ratio as was the older DVD edition.

I highly recommend the Blu-ray of Miles Davis' score presented in lossless stereo. Although I'm not sure if it's out of print or not. Seems hard to find suddenly.

Image
Thanks for the recommendation! I ordered the last bluray in stock @ Amazon US!

User avatar
Cinephrenic
Posts: 2499
Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2004 2:58 pm
Location: Paris, Texas

Re: 335 Elevator to the Gallows

#83 Post by Cinephrenic » Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:11 pm

Hasn't this been restored in a 4K scan recently in Europe? Why reissue listing is 2K?

User avatar
hearthesilence
Posts: 4202
Joined: Fri Mar 04, 2005 4:22 am
Location: NYC

Re: 335 Elevator to the Gallows

#84 Post by hearthesilence » Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:16 pm

I'm not a huge fan of the film, but the score is definitely one of the greats. Any Miles Davis fan needs to own a copy.

Rupert Pupkin
Posts: 317
Joined: Thu Oct 20, 2005 9:34 am

Re: 335 Elevator to the Gallows

#85 Post by Rupert Pupkin » Fri Nov 17, 2017 1:38 am

manicsounds wrote:The Artificial Eye UK and Gaumont France Blu-rays have the film in open matte 1.37:1, while the Criterion will retain the 1.66:1 ratio as was the older DVD edition.

I highly recommend the Blu-ray of Miles Davis' score presented in lossless stereo. Although I'm not sure if it's out of print or not. Seems hard to find suddenly.

Image
is this artwork an audio Blu-Ray ?

oh I didn't notice the 1:66 ratio... [-o< since the A.Eye used the same Gaumont transfer but "untempered" without the abrasive DNR and better encoding, I understand now if the ratio (1:66 vs 1:37 open-matte) is different why Criterion will probably use a different restoration (perhaps an old one (X2) like Le Samouraï ?)

I really hope that they still own the rights for "Murmur Of The Heart" which is probably my favorite Louis Malle.
The Artificial Eye box set has an interesting price, but some transfers are really poor (Atlantic City, or the bad restoration of "Lacombe Lucien" with this typical altered greenish-yellowish color settings (which was another one of my favorite Louis Malle movie))

User avatar
manicsounds
Posts: 3888
Joined: Tue Nov 02, 2004 10:58 pm
Location: Tokyo, Japan

Re: 335 Elevator to the Gallows

#86 Post by manicsounds » Fri Nov 17, 2017 3:10 am

Yes, Blu-ray Audio with all the tracks from the original album plus alternate takes. There is no video content, with three audio tracks: LPCM 2.0 stereo, dts-HD MA 2.0 stereo, Dolby TrueHD 2.0 stereo, all at 96khz.

It comes with a booklet in English and French plus a download code for an MP3 and high res audio versions.

User avatar
Fred Holywell
Posts: 273
Joined: Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:45 pm

Re: 335 Elevator to the Gallows

#87 Post by Fred Holywell » Fri Nov 17, 2017 9:29 pm

manicsounds wrote:The Artificial Eye UK and Gaumont France Blu-rays have the film in open matte 1.37:1, while the Criterion will retain the 1.66:1 ratio as was the older DVD edition.
Would have preferred 1.37:1, myself. 1.66:1 seems way too tight some of the time.

Image

Image
Last edited by Fred Holywell on Sat May 26, 2018 10:26 pm, edited 2 times in total.

User avatar
movielocke
Posts: 2336
Joined: Fri Jan 18, 2008 12:44 am

Re: 335 Elevator to the Gallows

#88 Post by movielocke » Fri Nov 17, 2017 11:33 pm

Your caps are bad representations of those scenes, those aren't lock off shots and indicate nothing just because you selectively freeze framing a moving camera or moving actors. I just watched it in 1.66 and the framing is excellent

Rupert Pupkin
Posts: 317
Joined: Thu Oct 20, 2005 9:34 am

Re: 335 Elevator to the Gallows

#89 Post by Rupert Pupkin » Sat Nov 18, 2017 1:25 am

on the DVD copy I have (1:66 ratio) the credits are in 1:37 (looks like an open-matte) - what was the original ratio for the theatrical release when this movie came out ?

I also remember that Murmur of The Heart (he ratio 1:66 is sure) has also the same kind of opening with a different ratio...

User avatar
dwk
Posts: 1667
Joined: Sat Jun 12, 2010 6:10 pm

Re: 335 Elevator to the Gallows

#90 Post by dwk » Thu Dec 28, 2017 4:16 am


User avatar
Ribs
Posts: 2894
Joined: Fri Jun 13, 2014 1:14 pm

Re: 335 Elevator to the Gallows

#91 Post by Ribs » Mon Jan 01, 2018 7:19 pm


blueyes
Posts: 7
Joined: Thu Jun 23, 2016 7:35 pm

Re: 335 Elevator to the Gallows

#92 Post by blueyes » Wed Feb 28, 2018 8:09 am

I have been keeping an eye out on this site for the review of the new CC disc. Is it coming soon? Ever since the question about the proper ratio came up, once attention has been called, I find it extremely distracting to watch the 1.66 and very hard to believe it's supposed to be seen like that. The post above by fred holywell, in my opinion, actually gives a good representation of what one fells throughout the film.

Post Reply