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The press release (or whatever it is) at Davis DVD lists the exact same specs as the current disc. Hopefully it's a misprint, but I suppose that Criterion could have just decided to put the old release back in circulation with updated art. You would think that if this was a new transfer from the 65mm elements, they would at least be trumpeting that.
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the lack of news of a new transfer (which is most-likely) and as I said above, leads me to believe if they were just putting it back into circulation with the new cover style, there's no way they'd jack the price up to 39.95 just because.Jeff wrote:The press release (or whatever it is) at Davis DVD lists the exact same specs as the current disc. Hopefully it's a misprint, but I suppose that Criterion could have just decided to put the old release back in circulation with updated art. You would think that if this was a new transfer from 65mm elements, they would at least be trumpeting that.
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There are more? I can't really see Criterion going for re-re-releases, especially this soon... new Tati hopefully, but I think after Playtime we're good on the double-dipping.Annie Mall wrote:It is for me. And for the rest of us that are going to be double-dipping on future Tati Criterion re-releases.
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toiletduck! wrote:There are more?Annie Mall wrote:It is for me. And for the rest of us that are going to be double-dipping on future Tati Criterion re-releases.
I'm quite sure they will re-release Mon Oncle's english version, My Uncle, recently restored and already available on DVD in France and Germany.
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Is there any rumblings of this or is it just speculation? Unless this was available to Criterion suddenly out of the blue, I would think that they would've held off on the Mon Oncle re-release as they did with Playtime. The immediate re-releases of Oncle and Hulot seemed to imply that these were the final versions to be released.Annie Mall wrote:I'm quite sure they will re-release Mon Oncle's english version, My Uncle, recently restored and already available on DVD in France and Germany.
'Course, Criterion has duped me before.
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And in today's "Don't Believe Everything You Read On the Internet" moment, it looks like Criterion's press release got it wrong. Full specs, from Criterion's website:
[quote]SPECIAL EDITION DOUBLE-DISC SET FEATURES
All-new, restored high-definition digital transfer
Video introduction by writer, director, and performer Terry Jones
Selected scene commentary by film historian Philip Kemp
Au-delà de "Playtime," a short documentary featuring archival behind-the-scenes footage from the set
Tati Story, a short biographical film about Tati
“Jacques Tati in Monsieur Hulot's Work,â€
[quote]SPECIAL EDITION DOUBLE-DISC SET FEATURES
All-new, restored high-definition digital transfer
Video introduction by writer, director, and performer Terry Jones
Selected scene commentary by film historian Philip Kemp
Au-delà de "Playtime," a short documentary featuring archival behind-the-scenes footage from the set
Tati Story, a short biographical film about Tati
“Jacques Tati in Monsieur Hulot's Work,â€
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http://criterion.com/asp/release.asp?id=112
124 minutes
1.85:1
Dolby Digital Stereo 2.0
5 minutes longer and in stereo.
124 minutes
1.85:1
Dolby Digital Stereo 2.0
5 minutes longer and in stereo.
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I'm a little disappointed that they couldn't get the transfer directly from the 70mm elements. Detail is so important to this movie that it's a shame to have to be 2 generations away from the negative. But I'm sure it will be a significant improvement over the previous release.Criterion wrote:This new, high-definition digital transfer was created on a Spirit Datacine from the 35mm reduction internegative, made from the restored 65mm interpositive.
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ok, so once again it's the international cut, i would assume. so is the longer cut available anywhere? I am really confused as no one , i think, has mentioned it. has anyone here seen that version?? at the walter reade screening, the notes were a bit vague as to whether it was the cut that had always played in france or not...
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If the transfer is indeed from the interpositive, then you needn't worry. The IP is only one generation from the negative, not two, and it is customary practice to use this element when making DVDs (even on current films). The negative is rarely, if ever, used (the only case I know of is New Line's Platinum version of Seven) for two reasons: 1) studios/content owners don't like whatever risks are involved in running the original back and forth through a telecine machine, and 2) a conformed negative is glued-up in a "checkerboard," A/B configuration to allow for printing. It's not impossible to make a transfer with these two rolls, as I've mentioned, but it's a holy pain in the ass.matt wrote:I'm a little disappointed that they couldn't get the transfer directly from the 70mm elements. Detail is so important to this movie that it's a shame to have to be 2 generations away from the negative. But I'm sure it will be a significant improvement over the previous release.Criterion wrote:This new, high-definition digital transfer was created on a Spirit Datacine from the 35mm reduction internegative, made from the restored 65mm interpositive.
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Pardon any redundancies from previous posts, but regarding what could be included in comprehensive Tati box, such a set could include (apart from what already appears on the current [and forthcoming] Criterion editions):
* The short films On demande une brute (1934), Gai dimanche (1935), and the rarely-seen Forza Bastia ou l'île en fête (1978)
* Jour de fête, of which there are four versions in existence: the 1947 un-colorized cut, the 1949 partially colorized version, the 1961/63 re-partially colorized restoration (with re-recorded soundtrack), and the previously unfinished 1947 Thomsoncolor version, completed by François Ede Sophie Tatischeff in 1995 (there is also a behind-the-scenes making-of doc about the restoration of the color version on the French DVD). There are however rumors of an impending Criterion Jour de fête, so much of this material could still eventually be released.
* The English-language My Uncle, which as noted above is not a dubbed version of Mon Oncle but rather a simultaneously-shot version with subtle but noteworthy differences and emphases (and which, significantly, is distributed on 35mm in the US by Janus)
* The Playtime trailer, which contains a couple of shots from sequences that apparently only appeared in the now-lost 150-min cut
* The features Trafic (no US DVD available) and Parade (once available as Criterion laserdisc, currently OOP in all formats in the US)
I would also suggest a Jonathan Rosenbaum commentary track (or at least liner notes) on some films, as Mr. Rosenbaum was a friend of Tati's (and slight collaborator, on the unproduced screenplay Confusion), and is one of the most knowledgeable experts on the late director (the Parade LD included his notes).
One can dream, yes...?
* The short films On demande une brute (1934), Gai dimanche (1935), and the rarely-seen Forza Bastia ou l'île en fête (1978)
* Jour de fête, of which there are four versions in existence: the 1947 un-colorized cut, the 1949 partially colorized version, the 1961/63 re-partially colorized restoration (with re-recorded soundtrack), and the previously unfinished 1947 Thomsoncolor version, completed by François Ede Sophie Tatischeff in 1995 (there is also a behind-the-scenes making-of doc about the restoration of the color version on the French DVD). There are however rumors of an impending Criterion Jour de fête, so much of this material could still eventually be released.
* The English-language My Uncle, which as noted above is not a dubbed version of Mon Oncle but rather a simultaneously-shot version with subtle but noteworthy differences and emphases (and which, significantly, is distributed on 35mm in the US by Janus)
* The Playtime trailer, which contains a couple of shots from sequences that apparently only appeared in the now-lost 150-min cut
* The features Trafic (no US DVD available) and Parade (once available as Criterion laserdisc, currently OOP in all formats in the US)
I would also suggest a Jonathan Rosenbaum commentary track (or at least liner notes) on some films, as Mr. Rosenbaum was a friend of Tati's (and slight collaborator, on the unproduced screenplay Confusion), and is one of the most knowledgeable experts on the late director (the Parade LD included his notes).
One can dream, yes...?
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Read the Criterion statement again. The transfer is taken from an internegative, which was taken from an interpositive, which was made (presumably) from the original negative. Two generations (and a reduction) away.TedW wrote:If the transfer is indeed from the interpositive, then you needn't worry.matt wrote:I'm a little disappointed that they couldn't get the transfer directly from the 70mm elements. Detail is so important to this movie that it's a shame to have to be 2 generations away from the negative. But I'm sure it will be a significant improvement over the previous release.Criterion wrote:This new, high-definition digital transfer was created on a Spirit Datacine from the 35mm reduction internegative, made from the restored 65mm interpositive.
I understand why using the original negative would be problematic. I'm just disappointed that they didn't transfer the 65mm interpositive.